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WilliamTheIrish 04-22-2013 10:42 AM

Need The Planet's Help/Stolen phone and Mayhem
 
Hi folks!

By way of bad luck and bad human intervention I had my 7 week old Note2 stolen from my office.

I had it password protected, but it was a simple code and the thief/thieves got it. The phone has been deactivated. However, it still makes emergency calls and the little ne'er do wells made a 911 call stating that an injured person was at that specific residence and that resulted in a gentleman getting his two front doors kicked in by police as he was coming home from work.

The call was fake but the damage doen was real and I had to talk to the KCK PD for a good while until it was straightened out. The worst part is they got my SD card full of thousands of photos and .gifs and 24 hours of music.

The interesting part of the story is this: On Saturday, I got an email notification that images had been uploaded to my dropbox account. Nothing that could be made out easily. But I remembered that they had to uploaded using wifi from somewhere. Hopefully a house.

Question 1: How do I get my carrier to dig into this and give me or the cops the IP address? Is that even possible?

On Sunday I received another notification that images had been uploaded. This time of a kid about 6 or 7 months old.

Question 2: If this kid has pictures on facebook or the web, can I use google reverse image search to find other images and possibly an identity?

How does it work? Just C&P the image into google?

Anything you can give me would be helpful.

Buck 04-22-2013 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9613987)
Hi folks!

By way of bad luck and bad human intervention I had my 7 week old Note2 stolen from my office.

I had it password protected, but it was a simple code and the thief/thieves got it. The phone has been deactivated. However, it still makes emergency calls and the little ne'er do wells made a 911 call stating that an injured person was at that specific residence and that resulted in a gentleman getting his two front doors kicked in by police as he was coming home from work.

The call was fake but the damage doen was real and I had to talk to the KCK PD for a good while until it was straightened out. The worst part is they got my SD card full of thousands of photos and .gifs and 24 hours of music.

The interesting part of the story is this: On Saturday, I got an email notification that images had been uploaded to my dropbox account. Nothing that could be made out easily. But I remembered that they had to uploaded using wifi from somewhere. Hopefully a house.

Question 1: How do I get my carrier to dig into this and give me or the cops the IP address? Is that even possible?

On Sunday I received another notification that images had been uploaded. This time of a kid about 6 or 7 months old.

Question 2: If this kid has pictures on facebook or the web, can I use google reverse image search to find other images and possibly an identity?

How does it work? Just C&P the image into google?

Anything you can give me would be helpful.

Go here, drag and drop the image (from the web) into the search bar on this page, and if there is the same picture anywhere online that google can access, it will bring it up.

https://www.google.com/imghp?hl=en&tab=wi&authuser=0

The Franchise 04-22-2013 10:46 AM

You're better off posting this in the main lounge where everyone is.

mikeyis4dcats. 04-22-2013 10:55 AM

too bad you missed my post last year about Android Lost.

Your carrier likely will do nothing, especially without a warrant. When my brother disappeared and it was feared he was going to harm himself (and he did) it required a court order from the Sheriff to get them to locate his phone, and that was with our employer authorizing it as it was a company phone.

Since the phone is apparently still connecting via WiFi you may be able to utilize Android Lost to retrieve it.

WilliamTheIrish 04-22-2013 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 9614000)
Go here, drag and drop the image (from the web) into the search bar on this page, and if there is the same picture anywhere online that google can access, it will bring it up.

https://www.google.com/imghp?hl=en&tab=wi&authuser=0

No luck there. I may have to wait for them to upload pics of themselves. They'll do it. It'll just take time.

Fish 04-22-2013 10:57 AM

You're ****ed. Your carrier isn't going to give up any information without the request coming from the police. And the police aren't going to give you the time of day for a request like that.

A google image search might work, if the exact same pics are hosted somewhere public. But that's pretty unlikely. I don't believe it would work for tracking an image to a Facebook account.

WilliamTheIrish 04-22-2013 11:02 AM

Thanks guys,

I kinda figured it was a lost cause. But my detective sense got the better of me.

The Franchise 04-22-2013 11:04 AM

Have you checked with Dropbox? Anyway that they can determine the IP from the pictures that are being uploaded to them?

AussieChiefsFan 04-22-2013 11:10 AM

There's android "find your post phone"apps type for this kinda thing. The main problem is that often the app needs to be on the device. You'll just have to find one that doesn't. Also, you're phone the phone companys (ie Samsung) website for ways to track lost devices. Also, like someone else said, you're probably better off posting this in the lounge.

Hope you find it!

morphius 04-22-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9614070)
There's android "find your post phone"apps type for this kinda thing. The main problem is that often the app needs to be on the device. You'll just have to find one that doesn't. Also, you're phone the phone companys (ie Samsung) website for ways to track lost devices. Also, like someone else said, you're probably better off posting this in the lounge.

Hope you find it!

It is possible that he could try to install something if the online play store still has access to it, but the person would see that something was installed.

mikeyis4dcats. 04-22-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9614070)
There's android "find your post phone"apps type for this kinda thing. The main problem is that often the app needs to be on the device. You'll just have to find one that doesn't. Also, you're phone the phone companys (ie Samsung) website for ways to track lost devices. Also, like someone else said, you're probably better off posting this in the lounge.

Hope you find it!

like Android Lost. It can be installed after the theft.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=264808

mikeyis4dcats. 04-22-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius (Post 9614092)
It is possible that he could try to install something if the online play store still has access to it, but the person would see that something was installed.

no, they won't. Most of the software apps install invisibly. Many require direct access to the phone, but not all. Some can be installed remotely and invisibly.

DaveNull 04-22-2013 05:58 PM

Few things:

1. You'll want to get into your dropbox account to try to pull the IP addresses that have accessed your account. Until you can find those, there's not much you can do. you also might check in the gmail account that's associated with your phone. If you didn't change the credentials, the IP address might be there.

I don't know how far you'll get with just an IP address, but you never know. If you had anything funky running (like SSH listening because you rooted it and either didn't re-secure it or you set it up that way) then you might be able to log into the phone and control it remotely. I don't know much about the arsenel for attacking Androids remotely but since the carriers are slow to update you might get lucky.

No I won't help you pop your old phone.

2. Check to see what activity was performed. If you've got it set so that pics on your android go to Dropbox (or anywhere else for that matter) then pull down the natives and examine them with Exiftool. You'll get GPS coordinates.

Good luck.

WilliamTheIrish 04-22-2013 06:59 PM

Dave,

I don't now what "pop" my phone means. Exiftool?

DaveNull 04-23-2013 05:24 AM

Pop would mean, hack your own phone remotely.

Exiftool

mikeyis4dcats. 04-23-2013 07:59 AM

William, not sure what exactly your goal is, but I'll be even more blunt. Android Lost will do it.

http://www.androidlost.com/


/taps mike...is this thing on?

WilliamTheIrish 04-23-2013 08:12 AM

Mike,

I'm here and I've sent the app to my phone. I can't tell if it's loaded. Where do you locate the phone? It says "send GPS coordinates to server", but where do you go to find the coordinates?

mikeyis4dcats. 04-23-2013 10:35 AM

you will have to use the tablet instructions I would think since your phone service is dead and can't SMS. That requires the installation of the jumpstart app.

With the phone live, you simply send SMS messages to control the phone. Without SMS, I gather the jumpstart app does the work.

When I send the command to send the GPS coordinates, it shows them on the website in a popup.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4...+113357+AM.jpg

WilliamTheIrish 04-23-2013 11:02 AM

Mike, I had the service restored to the phone for the very purpose of installing the app. Which I did (I think). Send SMS messages from what?

Sorry, man. I got the app but don't know what to do from this point. I think it's loaded. I can click around in the website but nothing happens.

mikeyis4dcats. 04-23-2013 02:42 PM

you send an SMS (text) message from another phone. you can also sned SMS via some websites

http://www.google.com/mobile/sms/

bowener 04-23-2013 02:58 PM

I am anticipating something awesome.

DMAC 04-23-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 9617661)
I am anticipating something awesome.

Ya no shit

WilliamTheIrish 04-23-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 9617554)
you send an SMS (text) message from another phone. you can also sned SMS via some websites

http://www.google.com/mobile/sms/

Yea, I'm doing that. But I'm not getting anything.

mikeyis4dcats. 04-23-2013 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9617731)
Yea, I'm doing that. But I'm not getting anything.

and you signed up with your gmail account and everything?

mikeyis4dcats. 04-23-2013 03:39 PM

PM me your gmail username, lets G-Chat

bowener 04-23-2013 03:50 PM

Mikey, get it done! I want to see some people feeling ****ing stupid once they get caught.

hometeam 04-23-2013 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9617731)
Yea, I'm doing that. But I'm not getting anything.

If phone is off you likely wont~

Maybe the guy let it die or threw it in the creek.

AussieChiefsFan 04-24-2013 05:11 AM

How's the search coming along?

WilliamTheIrish 04-24-2013 06:24 AM

Kind of stalled out. I think I've got a lead, but it's a meticulous deal.

AussieChiefsFan 04-24-2013 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9619595)
Kind of stalled out. I think I've got a lead, but it's a meticulous deal.

Watcha got so far?

bowener 04-24-2013 04:43 PM

Let us help you! Crowd source asset protection and retrieval.

WilliamTheIrish 04-25-2013 10:08 AM

OK, nothing seems to be happening. Although I'm still awaiting a possible GPS fix on the images uploaded to dropbox.

DaveNull 04-25-2013 05:32 PM

Dude...send me a link to them in a PM.

TribalElder 04-25-2013 06:53 PM

Exif data could help assuming you geotag your photos.

You could drive around and call it while listening for it to ring. lol

If it was stolen from your office how large of a list can that be of possible suspects? Also if you had it connected to your corporate exchange server you should be able to at least remotely wipe the device through your webmail service. The remote wipe wont recover your phone but it will at least remove your info

WilliamTheIrish 04-25-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 9627686)
Exif data could help assuming you geotag your photos.

You could drive around and call it while listening for it to ring. lol

If it was stolen from your office how large of a list can that be of possible suspects? Also if you had it connected to your corporate exchange server you should be able to at least remotely wipe the device through your webmail service. The remote wipe wont recover your phone but it will at least remove your info

It's a busy hospital. I hadn't synced the new phone to the exchange server. I was using my old phone for via wifi for all work email.

I'm certain it was a family member of a patient. The difficult part in this is I could contact the patient but I could get in trouble (HIPAA) for using that info to track somebody down. It's a delicate situation info-wise.

WilliamTheIrish 04-25-2013 07:41 PM

Freaking tags ... Awesome.

"Free phone... Inquire within".

TribalElder 04-25-2013 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9627811)
It's a busy hospital. I hadn't synced the new phone to the exchange server. I was using my old phone for via wifi for all work email.

I'm certain it was a family member of a patient. The difficult part in this is I could contact the patient but I could get in trouble (HIPAA) for using that info to track somebody down. It's a delicate situation info-wise.

Any video of your office area?

WilliamTheIrish 04-25-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 9628411)
Any video of your office area?

None.

WilliamTheIrish 04-29-2013 08:07 AM

Good news/bad news update:

Good news: I definitely found the little thief. 15 years old. Claims to not know a thing about it.

Bad News: I can't do a GD thing about it.

AussieChiefsFan 04-29-2013 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9643335)
Good news/bad news update:

Good news: I definitely found the little thief. 15 years old. Claims to not know a thing about it.

Bad News: I can't do a GD thing about it.

So how did you find out it was him?

WilliamTheIrish 04-29-2013 08:32 AM

Her.

Wish I could say more.

DMAC 04-29-2013 08:36 AM

Great ending.

NewChief 04-29-2013 08:37 AM

In a situation like this, you can ask yourself two questions:

What Would Walter White Do?

or

What Would Tyrion Do?

Therein lies the correct answer to catch the thieving little hussy.

WilliamTheIrish 04-29-2013 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 9643373)
Great ending.

I had to use some underhanded ideas to locate the thieving little pile of DNA.

AussieChiefsFan 04-29-2013 09:19 AM

So, what to do now? Are you gonna try to pursue this any further.

DMAC 04-29-2013 09:24 AM

Did you end up knowing her?

mikeyis4dcats. 04-29-2013 09:36 AM

did you ever get Android Lost to work?

I located my wife's phone via GPS, called the cops and asked them to come out, then set off the loud siren option so they could hear it in the apartment.

WilliamTheIrish 05-04-2013 08:02 AM

Quote:

So, what to do now? Are you gonna try to pursue this any further.
Nope. Can't do anything. Can't prove a ****ing thing.

Quote:

Did you end up knowing her?
No. She was the grandchild of a person getting an exam. Just wandered back near my office and stole it. My own fault. Left the door open. I stepped out for what was supposed to be a moment that turned into 5 minutes. That was all the time needed to pilfer the phone. No cameras facing the office.


Quote:

did you ever get Android Lost to work?
located my wife's phone via GPS, called the cops and asked them to come out, then set off the loud siren option so they could hear it in the apartment.
Couldn't get it to work for me. Still not sure why. But I have it on my new phone and it works like a charm.


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