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ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2013 09:42 AM

Andy Studebaker has been released
 
Andy Studebaker ‏@studie32 10m

I have officially been released by the Kansas City Chiefs.
https://twitter.com/studie32/status/...170688/photo/1

Andy Studebaker ‏@studie32 11m

Continued... https://twitter.com/studie32/status/...422145/photo/1

AndChiefs 04-01-2013 09:42 AM

This can't be!

HemiEd 04-01-2013 09:43 AM

Sad, I liked him, but he was in over his head.

The Franchise 04-01-2013 09:44 AM

Not sure if serious....

buddha 04-01-2013 09:44 AM

Good. He was never good enough, and KC was foolish for thinking otherwise.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 09:44 AM

April Fools!

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 09:44 AM

Maybe not..

Andy Studebaker ‏@studie32 26s
To the April fools conspiracy theorists... No it is not a joke, but you have to appreciate the irony.
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ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2013 09:45 AM

Andy Studebaker ‏@studie32 34s

To the April fools conspiracy theorists... No it is not a joke, but you have to appreciate the irony.

loochy 04-01-2013 09:45 AM

well bye

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_9dVI96jt7...owersbooth.jpg

Deberg_1990 04-01-2013 09:46 AM

Well.....bye

Basically lived off the legend of one game. 2009 against the Steelers.

Hammock Parties 04-01-2013 09:47 AM

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5fclg6LGj1qd1ji2.gif

rabblerouser 04-01-2013 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9545590)


yep.

ToxSocks 04-01-2013 09:48 AM

And the last Studebaker rolls off the assembly line.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 09:48 AM

Whats the cap savings 2 mil?

FloridaMan88 04-01-2013 09:49 AM

Thank God.

Studebaker symbolizes all that was wrong with the Fat Scott era.

Too many "overachieving" players with little talent.

The Franchise 04-01-2013 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9545604)
Whats the cap savings 2 mil?

About that...yeah.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 09:50 AM

so now that gives us 5.1 mil in cap space

loochy 04-01-2013 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9545607)
About that...yeah.

cool. use that to pay geno or something

Crush 04-01-2013 09:54 AM

Finally

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9545608)
so now that gives us 5.1 mil in cap space

Yup and the chiefs need around 4m to draft this year.

ChiefMojo 04-01-2013 09:55 AM

Expected! Cap move.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9545625)
Yup and the chiefs need around 4m to draft this year.

Cant we restructure Hali's and Berry's deals to free up space? Both are making like 15 mil this year

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 09:56 AM

Such a weird day to do it. April Fool's lol

The Franchise 04-01-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9545625)
Yup and the chiefs need around 4m to draft this year.

Do they not do the rookie pool anymore?

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9545632)
Cant we restructure Hali's and Berry's deals to free up space? Both are making like 15 mil this year

Sure if the chiefs want. I would leave Hali alone don't wanna add years to his deal.

ChiefMojo 04-01-2013 09:58 AM

Sure we can but first and foremost you knew Studebaker was going to be released sooner than later. You look at the roster and the cap #'s and Studebaker's cap just screamed at you for nothing more than a back-up/SP player.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9545645)
Sure if the chiefs want. I would leave Hali alone don't wanna add years to his deal.

Dont have to add years. They can just turn it into a bonus like teams do

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2013 10:00 AM

How does the “Rookie Pool” affect the Salary Cap

This is probably the most confusing aspect for most people. Some people this its additional money added on top of the salary cap which is not the case at all. The “Rookie Pool” is a cap within the salary cap. It is essentially money that your team needs to place aside for your rookies. It is not added to your salary cap at all.

The Chiefs (pretending there is no trade for Alex Smith) would have an allotment of around $7.445 million for their rookie class. What that means is that at the end of the preseason, assuming all their rookies make the club, the Chiefs will need to devote $7.445 million in cap dollars to their rookies. So if the Chiefs had a salary cap of $123 million their effective cap space for spending is only $115.55 million in 2013.

However when reading this it is easy to jump to conclusions that the Chiefs need to be $7.445 million under the cap today just to sign rookies. Not exactly. We need to remember that in the offseason the salary cap is based on the “Rule of 51” which means only the top 51 cap charges (plus dead money) count towards a teams salary cap. Most teams have more than 51 players under contract. The Chiefs have 55.

This means that each of the Chiefs 7 draft selections will displace a player who is currently counting towards the salary cap limit. Most of these players earn $405,000. So if you have 51 or more players under contract here is the general rule as to how you calculate the net cap space that is being eaten up by your rookie pool:

Year One Rookie Pool – (405,000 x number of draft picks)

For KC that is equal to just $4.61 million a big difference between the $7.445 million we first thought we needed to set aside. So is the Chiefs have at least $5 million in cap room they can sign free agents and not need to worry about their rookie dollars being compromised. If you are a team with less than 51 players that you will need to adjust your calculation accordingly to

Year One Rookie Pool – (405,000 x (number of draft picks – (51- players under contract) )

These are your net cap space requirements for rookies or what I would call your “Effective Rookie Pool”.

Lightrise 04-01-2013 10:00 AM

I've waited for this...its about money. He had a ridiculous contract and this is how we fund the draft picks.

The Franchise 04-01-2013 10:01 AM

And this is why clubs have positions just for handling the cap and contracts. ****ing Christ.

boogblaster 04-01-2013 10:04 AM

I liked him .. but his speed wasnt there .. too bad .. hope he can make a squad sumwhere on ST .....

mcaj22 04-01-2013 10:07 AM

How bad does Reid hate this guy

cuts him in Philly, cuts him here. lol

loochy 04-01-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9545687)
How bad does Reid hate this guy

cuts him in Philly, cuts him here. lol

it's like when there's a fly and you think you smashed him but he keeps getting up and buzzing your face

mcaj22 04-01-2013 10:10 AM

welp

as of right now OLBers on this team

Justin Houston
Tamba Hali


think its safe to say they will be drafting a OLBer lol

mcaj22 04-01-2013 10:11 AM

actually the whole current group of LBers is hilarious

MLBer
Derrick Johnson
Cory Greenwood
Chad Kilgore

OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston


there is NOBODY lol

shammus 04-01-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9545701)
actually the whole current group of LBers is hilarious

MLBer
Derrick Johnson
Cory Greenwood
Chad Kilgore

OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston


there is NOBODY lol

Nevermind....we released Sheffield back in September....

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9545701)
actually the whole current group of LBers is hilarious

MLBer
Derrick Johnson
Cory Greenwood
Chad Kilgore

OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston


there is NOBODY lol

Don't forget Edgar Jones

Easy 6 04-01-2013 10:14 AM

But but guys, he was the first in, the last to leave and helped out with the 4H bake sale every week!

The Franchise 04-01-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9545697)
welp

as of right now OLBers on this team

Justin Houston
Tamba Hali


think its safe to say they will be drafting a OLBer lol

The OLB depth in this draft is pretty good.

mcaj22 04-01-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9545706)
Don't forget Edgar Jones

is he still signed? they dont have him on the official Chiefs website roster lol

http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster.html

Chief_For_Life58 04-01-2013 10:16 AM

hello dion or child soldier

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9545715)
is he still signed? they dont have him on the official Chiefs website roster lol

http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster.html

Yes 1 year deal

The Franchise 04-01-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9545715)
is he still signed? they dont have him on the official Chiefs website roster lol

http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster.html

I thought he signed a new deal this offseason.

mcaj22 04-01-2013 10:17 AM

ah well

they still need lots and lots of LBers regardless of Edgar Jones lol

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9545715)
is he still signed? they dont have him on the official Chiefs website roster lol

http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster.html

e.jones ‏@stayhumble99 22 Mar

Blessed to be back in the red and white. Ready to get started. #chiefnation

The Franchise 04-01-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9545719)
ah well

they still need lots and lots of LBers regardless of Edgar Jones lol

I still think we'll come out of this draft with at least one OLB and one ILB.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 04-01-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9545725)
I still think we'll come out of this draft with at least one OLB and one ILB.

Hopefully no Gabe Miller types

Just Passin' By 04-01-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 9545605)
Thank God.

Studebaker symbolizes all that was wrong with the Fat Scott era.

Too many "overachieving" players with little talent.

A player brought in during the Herm Edwards era, who was a backup for a few years, somehow symbolizes what was wrong with the Pioli era?

The Franchise 04-01-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9545738)
A player brought in during the Herm Edwards era, who was a backup for a few years, somehow symbolizes what was wrong with the ***** era?

Studebaker becomes the first Chief to receive an extension from the Scott Pioli-led Chiefs.

mcaj22 04-01-2013 10:27 AM

He, Studebaker, turned one play in the awful 2009 season into a 5 year stay

i remember those interceptions against the Steelers this place was calling him as Vrabel's heir replacement. Boy that was way off lol

the Tony Moeaki syndrome

Just Passin' By 04-01-2013 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9545740)
Studebaker becomes the first Chief to receive an extension from the Scott *****-led Chiefs.

Again, he was Edwards era addition who was a backup for a few years. It's not as if they signed him for 10+ a season as a starter.

crossbow 04-01-2013 10:38 AM

Quick! Someone get Boomer Grigsby's agent on the phone.

Dartgod 04-01-2013 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9545656)
How does the “Rookie Pool” affect the Salary Cap

This is probably the most confusing aspect for most people. Some people this its additional money added on top of the salary cap which is not the case at all. The “Rookie Pool” is a cap within the salary cap. It is essentially money that your team needs to place aside for your rookies. It is not added to your salary cap at all.

The Chiefs (pretending there is no trade for Alex Smith) would have an allotment of around $7.445 million for their rookie class. What that means is that at the end of the preseason, assuming all their rookies make the club, the Chiefs will need to devote $7.445 million in cap dollars to their rookies. So if the Chiefs had a salary cap of $123 million their effective cap space for spending is only $115.55 million in 2013.

However when reading this it is easy to jump to conclusions that the Chiefs need to be $7.445 million under the cap today just to sign rookies. Not exactly. We need to remember that in the offseason the salary cap is based on the “Rule of 51” which means only the top 51 cap charges (plus dead money) count towards a teams salary cap. Most teams have more than 51 players under contract. The Chiefs have 55.

This means that each of the Chiefs 7 draft selections will displace a player who is currently counting towards the salary cap limit. Most of these players earn $405,000. So if you have 51 or more players under contract here is the general rule as to how you calculate the net cap space that is being eaten up by your rookie pool:

Year One Rookie Pool – (405,000 x number of draft picks)

For KC that is equal to just $4.61 million a big difference between the $7.445 million we first thought we needed to set aside. So is the Chiefs have at least $5 million in cap room they can sign free agents and not need to worry about their rookie dollars being compromised. If you are a team with less than 51 players that you will need to adjust your calculation accordingly to

Year One Rookie Pool – (405,000 x (number of draft picks – (51- players under contract) )

These are your net cap space requirements for rookies or what I would call your “Effective Rookie Pool”.

You forgot to include a link to the site you stole this post from.

http://overthecap.com/explaining-the...he-salary-cap/

Ace Gunner 04-01-2013 10:41 AM

didn't do enough when given the opp

gblowfish 04-01-2013 10:42 AM

He was OK on special teams, but we can do as good or better for less money. I have no beef with his time spent here. He has nothing to be ashamed of.

unlurking 04-01-2013 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 9545781)
You forgot to include a link to the site you stole this post from.

http://overthecap.com/explaining-the...he-salary-cap/

Thanks. Amazing how rarely people seem to include links these days. IIRC, didn't it use to be a requirement years ago? Maybe that was another board.

patteeu 04-01-2013 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9545591)
Well.....bye

Basically lived off the legend of one game. 2009 against the Steelers.

My Steeler fan friends came to town for that game (along with what looked like another 20,000 towel waving Steeler fans). They didn't like the tomahawk chop chant that was going on as we exited the stadium. Great game.

Discuss Thrower 04-01-2013 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9545861)
My Steeler fan friends came to town for that game (along with what looked like another 20,000 towel waving Steeler fans). They didn't like the tomahawk chop chant that was going on as we exited the stadium. Great game.

I'm ****ing tired of bandwagon HORDES in Arrowhead. And I don't think it's ever going to change.

**** Herm. **** Pioli.

InChiefsHeaven 04-01-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9545881)
I'm ****ing tired of bandwagon HORDES in Arrowhead. And I don't think it's ever going to change.

**** Herm. **** *****.

The Chiefs have bandwagon fans? That most go like...week to week or something...

RealSNR 04-01-2013 11:34 AM

Sorry it didn't work out, Andy. Millions of white people loved you.

Discuss Thrower 04-01-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 9545898)
The Chiefs have bandwagon fans? That most go like...week to week or something...

No. I mean the thousands of terrible towel waving Pitt fans, cheesehead festooned Pack fans, cockslurpin Cowboy fans and the inevitable cadre of Donko fans who are on the Peyton train.

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9545902)
Sorry it didn't work out, Andy. Millions of white people loved you.

Just ****ing sad you bring race into this but if someone did this about your boy Geno how quick would you call them a racist.

cabletech94 04-01-2013 11:40 AM

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seaofred 04-01-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9545902)
Sorry it didn't work out, Andy. Millions of white people loved you.



That's pretty racist...

RealSNR 04-01-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9545915)
Just ****ing sad you bring race into this but if someone did this about your boy Geno how quick would you call them a racist.

LMAO Calm down, bro

nychief 04-01-2013 11:53 AM

One good game.

Fire Me Boy! 04-01-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9545789)
He was OK on special teams, but we can do as good or better for less money. I have no beef with his time spent here. He has nothing to be ashamed of.

Except for a failed line of automobiles.

FloridaMan88 04-01-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9545738)
A player brought in during the Herm Edwards era, who was a backup for a few years, somehow symbolizes what was wrong with the ***** era?

Seriously?

It isn't hard to figure out dumbshit.

Studebaker= Minimal talent

Studebaker= "Blue Collar", "Overachiever"

Studebaker= Cheap

Studebaker= Prototypical Fat Scott player.

Studebaker was a practice squad player who played sparingly under Herm. He became a starter under Fat Scott.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-01-2013 12:07 PM

So long Stuude. Aaaand waiting for Stanzi/Tanney to drop, yes.
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Rain Man 04-01-2013 12:09 PM

Dang. I had high hopes for Andy. I even liked him in the draft that year.

Just Passin' By 04-01-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 9545984)
Seriously?

It isn't hard to figure out dumbshit.

Studebaker= Minimal talent

Studebaker= "Blue Collar", "Overachiever"

Studebaker= Cheap

Studebaker= Prototypical Fat Scott player.

Studebaker was a practice squad player who played sparingly under Herm. He became a starter under Fat Scott.

It's a really stupid attempt at claiming a backup level player as the face of failure when he was signed by the former regime, played as a backup for most of his career and is now, not surprisingly, cut when his salary outweighs his play. Now, maybe you're normally that stupid, and this is not just because you can't rationally look at the ***** era. I don't know. Given that the guy had only 8 starts in 5 years, that 5 of the 8 happened in one season and that the next season only saw him getting 1 start, I do expect that most people are smart enough to figure out that he's not the player to lay your gripes on.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-01-2013 12:14 PM

How does one "rationally" look at the Peeholi era? Outside of Berry, Houston, and possibly Poe, there really isnt much to talk about. A giant bag o' dickhammers best sums up said era.
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ChiTown 04-01-2013 12:17 PM

Every time I saw Andy Studebaker on the field, I clubbed a baby seal. This little fella thanks the Chiefs organization for doing the right thing:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2...2juo1_1280.jpg

gblowfish 04-01-2013 12:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 9545954)
Except for a failed line of automobiles.

This 1953 is pretty bitchin....

Rain Man 04-01-2013 12:23 PM

I remember reading once that Studebakers went extinct because they were so well built that they didn't get repeat business as often as other car makers. I've always wondered if that was true, because I'm not convinced that it makes sense.

Fire Me Boy! 04-01-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9546023)
This 1953 is pretty bitchin....

There's my ol' 1958 Lark VIII.

http://imageshack.us/a/img689/1985/58stude.jpg

gblowfish 04-01-2013 12:31 PM

Nice Ride! Do you still have it?

Ace Gunner 04-01-2013 12:32 PM

THAY ARE MAKE ROOM ON THAA RASTER FOR TEBOW

Fire Me Boy! 04-01-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9546055)
Nice Ride! Do you still have it?

Nope, not anymore. Sold it back in the mid-1990s. Dad bought at '62 Hawk that sat in the garage for a while before he sold it.

gblowfish 04-01-2013 12:33 PM

Hey, if Tebow is a better linebacker than Studebaker, then great. He's not playing QB here, that's fo sho...


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