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The Franchise 02-15-2013 10:49 AM

Would you bring in Hester?
 
If he's released. ...that is. Think Toub would want him in KC?

www.rotoworld.com

New Bears coach Marc Trestman admits Devin Hester could be done in Chicago.

"(We) had a chance to talk a few minutes but we didn’t get specific on anything," Trestman said. "Just an opportunity to get to know each other but not to put in concrete what his role would be if he winds up coming back." Trestman's "winds up coming back" remark makes it clear Hester is more likely to be cut than retained. It sounds like both sides want a fresh start.

pr_capone 02-15-2013 10:50 AM

YES. As a kick returner only but FACK yes.

HemiEd 02-15-2013 10:52 AM

Oh hell no, please no.

Much like Dante Hall was when he left the Chiefs, Hester is done.

Frankie 02-15-2013 10:53 AM

kick returner extraordinaire and depth at WR? Hell yes. Though I don't know if any injuries have diminished his skills. So, a qualified "hell yes."

The Franchise 02-15-2013 11:00 AM

I wonder if Reid would like to use him as a 3rd or 4th WR. Someone to get out in space.

mcaj22 02-15-2013 11:02 AM

this guy is NOT done

overpaid yes
older yes

but still fast as ****

Frazod 02-15-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9405134)
Oh hell no, please no.

Much like Dante Hall was when he left the Chiefs, Hester is done.

This. The Bears ruined him in exactly the same way.

Bump 02-15-2013 11:07 AM

I would take him for sure, wouldn't break the bank though.

Easy 6 02-15-2013 11:07 AM

I'd rather have Johnny Knox, that mfer is a burner and was really coming on as a receiver before he got hurt, he's had some real circus grabs.

mcaj22 02-15-2013 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9405176)
I'd rather have Johnny Knox, that mfer is a burner and was really coming on as a receiver before he got hurt, he's had some real circus grabs.

lolol

HemiEd 02-15-2013 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9405154)
I wonder if Reid would like to use him as a 3rd or 4th WR. Someone to get out in space.

He is worthless as a WR, that experiment didn't work up here.

Easy 6 02-15-2013 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9405180)
lolol

He's a damn sight better than Hester.

Canofbier 02-15-2013 11:11 AM

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"Obviously. He's a negro, after all, so he's got to be guilty of something."

Pasta Little Brioni 02-15-2013 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9405176)
I'd rather have Johnny Knox, that mfer is a burner and was really coming on as a receiver before he got hurt, he's had some real circus grabs.

ROFL
ROFL
ROFL

HemiEd 02-15-2013 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9405160)
This. The Bears ruined him in exactly the same way.

Exactly. Hester is probably still sitting someplace as I write this, trying to figure out the last play that Cutler called and what his assignment was.

gblowfish 02-15-2013 11:11 AM

I'd only consider him if we dealt or cut McCluster.

mcaj22 02-15-2013 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9405188)
He's a damn sight better than Hester.

if a damn sight means walking with a limp for the rest of his life and never playing football again

then yes i agree hes better than Hester at that, but I dont want to sign a guy that is retired so, Hester it is

Pasta Little Brioni 02-15-2013 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9405197)
if a damn sight means walking with a limp for the rest of his life and never playing football again

then yes i agree hes better than Hester at that, but I dont want to sign a guy that is retired so, Hester it is

I'm guessing he thought he was still playing Madden and had injuries turned off, heh

bevischief 02-15-2013 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9405176)
I'd rather have Johnny Knox, that mfer is a burner and was really coming on as a receiver before he got hurt, he's had some real circus grabs.

ROFL

Sorter 02-15-2013 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9405188)
He's a damn sight better than Hester.

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Not sure if srs.

KChiefer 02-15-2013 11:29 AM

Do not give two shits about return men. Hell, the NFL wants to get rid of kick-offs and we want to go after that very specialist?

Do we need a good punt returner that has a good head and great hands? Yes, but find one already on the roster or draft one that does another job even better than he returns.

mcaj22 02-15-2013 11:35 AM

yea how dare us give a shit about field position and team speed

a good return man didnt just win the super bowl or anything

KChiefer 02-15-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9405255)
yea how dare us give a shit about field position and team speed

a good return man didnt just win the super bowl or anything

Was his return huge? Sure. But remember this, the guy was a nonfactor throughout the year and his role as a WR was just as important as his return. Is Hester making that catch/getup/run/TD? No.

Ace Gunner 02-15-2013 12:05 PM

no

Frankie 02-15-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9405255)
yea how dare us give a shit about field position and team speed

a good return man didnt just win the super bowl or anything

:clap:

Easy 6 02-15-2013 12:25 PM

LMAO ok, i done been had... was unaware that Knox' injury was career ending.

If he was back i'd stand behind my statement, but he's not, so...

HolyHat 02-15-2013 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9405255)
yea how dare us give a shit about field position and team speed

a good return man didnt just win the super bowl or anything

So now Jacoby Jones won the Ravens the super bowl?

Oh Lawd...

mcaj22 02-15-2013 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9405320)
Was his return huge? Sure. But remember this, the guy was a nonfactor throughout the year and his role as a WR was just as important as his return. Is Hester making that catch/getup/run/TD? No.

What i do remember, is if you actually follow the NFL, is the guy BEING a factor throughout the year as a RETURN man, just like he was in the Super bowl

Jacoby Jones led the LEAGUE in 30 yards per return average. Essentially Joe Flacco starting drives on the 30 or more,

for comparison sake, we had Shaun Draughn who averaged 21 yards per return.

So Flacco getting the ball at the 30 versus Brady Quinn/Matt Cassel starting at the 21, if the return begins at the 1. And it takes one sack or rushing play that nets a loss of yards for that drive at the 21 to be in the teens. Essentially poor field position KILLING drives before they even begin.

I dont know about you, but I'm sick of that

WhiteWhale 02-15-2013 12:35 PM

I love that we're having this discussion 3 years after Pioli spent two 2nd round picks on guys who were supposed to handle the PR and KR duties.

KChiefer 02-15-2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9405409)
What i do remember, is if you actually follow the NFL, is the guy BEING a factor throughout the year as a RETURN man, just like he was in the Super bowl

Jacoby Jones led the LEAGUE in 30 yards per return average. Essentially Joe Flacco starting drives on the 30 or more,

for comparison sake, we had Shaun Draughn who averaged 21 yards per return.

So Flacco getting the ball at the 30 versus Brady Quinn/Matt Cassel starting at the 21, if the return begins at the 1. And it takes one sake or rushing play that nets a loss of yards for that drive at the 21 to be in the teens. Essentially poor field position KILLING drives before they even begin.

I dont know about you, but I'm sick of that

I admit, I wrongly called him a non-factor during the season. But how great was he in Houston? Baltimore has had a history of returning the ball well. We have not. We know Reid likes speed, but find it in a guy who's not headed into the backend of his career.

mcaj22 02-15-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9405452)
I admit, I wrongly called him a non-factor during the season. But how great was he in Houston? Baltimore has had a history of returning the ball well. We have not. We know Reid likes speed, but find it in a guy who's not headed into the backend of his career.

you dont spend money on the highest paid special teams coach in the league to not now be a factor in returning the ball

we will be a factor in the return game, they will spend money and/or find a KR that does that. Whether its Hester, a draft pick, someone. It certainly is not any of the slow players currently on the team, that is for sure.

KChiefer 02-15-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9405460)
you dont spend money on the highest paid special teams coach in the league to not now be a factor in returning the ball

we will be a factor in the return game, they will spend money and/or find a KR that does that. Whether its Hester, a draft pick, someone. It certainly is not any of the slow players currently on the team, that is for sure.

Fair enough. As others have said, he's not going to be the X-factor he once was. If he comes cheap, great, do it. Just keep him off the field on off/def for the most part.

Dunerdr 02-15-2013 04:28 PM

Harvin priority over hester.let the midget get smoked on returns IF he can hold on. Returners a diminishing role in the nfl. Hed have to be cheap.

alpha_omega 02-15-2013 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9405138)
kick returner extraordinaire and depth at WR? Hell yes. Though I don't know if any injuries have diminished his skills. So, a qualified "hell yes."

Frankie likes him...so...i have to say no.

Ace Gunner 02-15-2013 05:29 PM

signing a returner has become perhaps the most wasteful thing any team can do in FA these days. you can draft a young late rnd player with return skills for pennies and maybe he becomes more for your team later.

BlackHelicopters 02-15-2013 06:08 PM

Past his prime. No.

Hammock Parties 02-15-2013 06:11 PM

Hester Prynne?

MagicHef 02-15-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Pink (Post 9405406)
So now Jacoby Jones won the Ravens the super bowl?

Oh Lawd...

He had 2 TDs in a game decided by 3 points...

bigjosh 02-15-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9405176)
I'd rather have Johnny Knox, that mfer is a burner and was really coming on as a receiver before he got murdered, he's had some real circus grabs.

fixed


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