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Marco Polo 02-14-2013 11:07 AM

Clark Judge: Chiefs can't afford to take quarterback with first pick of draft
 
Cover of cbssports.com:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/cl...-pick-of-draft

With two months to go before commissioner Roger Goodell steps to the lecturn to open the NFL draft, I have a prediction: The Kansas City Chiefs don't choose a quarterback with the first pick.

Yeah, I know, they need one like L.A. needs mass transit, and they'd take one if there were an Andrew Luck or Matt Stafford available.

But there's not.
In fact, there's nobody even close, and if you think I'm kidding you weren't listening to what Frank Scelfo, Jacksonville's quarterbacks coach, said about Blaine Gabbert the other day -- namely, that if he were in this year's draft he'd be the No. 1 choice.

That should tell you something about the field. It should also tell you what the Chiefs' first move should be -- namely, anywhere but quarterback.

With the first choice you don't draft for need; you draft the best player out there. You go in one direction and one direction only, and that's for the sure thing. You absolutely, positively must be sold that whomever you choose steps in, starts and becomes the foundation of your franchise for the next 5-10 years.

So tell me which of these guys fits that description: Geno Smith? Matt Barkley? Tyler Wilson? Tyler Bray? All have holes in their games, and none is worth choosing with the first, second or third picks.

So that makes Kansas City's options easy: Either stay where you are and choose the best player -- a pass rusher, maybe, or a left tackle -- or find your quarterback with a later choice. The bottom line is that the Chiefs must be true to their board, choosing the guy at the top ... and I can't imagine any of these quarterbacks is anywhere near there.

In fact, one guy I trust who studied this class of quarterbacks thinks it's so underwhelming he's not sure there's a legit first-rounder in there.

I'm serious.

That doesn't mean there won't be a quarterback taken in the first round. Of course there will. There will be more than one. It's a passing league, and clubs that don't have good, young quarterbacks can't wait to get their hands on one. So they reach, just as teams did in the 2011 draft when four quarterbacks went with the first 12 picks, leaving Andy Dalton to Cincinnati in the second round.

Dalton is the only quarterback in that class to make the playoffs his first two seasons, and there's a lesson there for Kansas City: Don't overdraft the position.

"We never reached (when I was at Dallas) -- except for one time," said former Cowboys executive Gil Brandt. "We were supposed to take Joe Montana (in the third round of the 1979 draft), but we had three veteran quarterbacks, and (then coach) Tom Landry said, 'I can't carry four quarterbacks.' So we took Doug Cosbie instead."

Cosbie was a decent tight end who was named to three Pro Bowls, but Montana was a Hall-of-Fame quarterback who won four Super Bowls.

Everyone knows the Chiefs need someone to replace Matt Cassel, but not with the first pick of the 2013 draft they don't. They can find one by trading out and moving down or by staying put and choosing a quarterback at the top of the second round, much as San Diego did in 2001. Instead of taking Michael Vick with the first selection, the Bolts that year traded the pick to Atlanta, then tapped running back LaDainian Tomlinson with the pick acquired from the Falcons and quarterback Drew Brees at the top of the second round.

The problem for Kansas City is that it chose the wrong year to bottom out. The 2012 draft was the time and place to find a quarterback with a high draft pick, with Luck and Robert Griffin III the first two choices. It's not just that they were the two best quarterbacks out there; it's that they were at or near the top of everyone's boards. So Indianapolis took the best player in the draft; Washington took the second best, and that's the way it's supposed to go.

Which means you can scratch Kansas City from choosing a quarterback with the first pick for one very important reason: That player should be the best player in the draft, and there's not a quarterback who qualifies.

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 11:08 AM

Clark Judge won't be able to afford the medical bills he's going to have if he keeps writing this shit.

WhitiE 02-14-2013 11:09 AM

Gobble gobble mo****a!!!!

Pasta Little Brioni 02-14-2013 11:09 AM

The 2012 draft was the time and place to find a quarterback with a high draft pick, with Luck and Robert Griffin III the first two choices

That's fine Clark. We'll "settle" for a better prospect than Russ Wilson you dumbsonofabitch.

What about the drafts from 2000-2012. There wasn't any "Lucks" then either, yet plenty of elite QB's and Super Bowl winners.

ptlyon 02-14-2013 11:10 AM

FO Clark!!!

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 11:11 AM

You ever read the tripe this traitor has written?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=237636

Quote:

"I think he's an NFL starting quarterback you can win with and win championships with," ***** said at training camp last summer. "Matt adjusted to a lot of change, showed his competitiveness, resiliency and his ability. Beyond the mental and emotional (aspect) and his competitiveness, he showed the physical ability to be able to win."

***** was right. Kansas City is not where it is today without Matt Cassel, and it's high time the club, its G.M., its head coach, its assistants and Matt Cassel himself are recognized for what is working with the Chiefs. And what is working is their quarterback.

Adding Matt Cassel not only was a good move; it was a necessary one. And it has the Chiefs where they haven't been in years. Good for them. Good for *****. And, most important, good for Matt Cassel.

htismaqe 02-14-2013 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9402475)
The 2012 draft was the time and place to find a quarterback with a high draft pick, with Luck and Robert Griffin III the first two choices

Nevermind that.

These guys are now OPENLY ACKNOWLEDGING that teams should tank during SPECIFIC seasons so they can target SPECIFIC guys.

I'm sure the NFL LOVES this.

DaKCMan AP 02-14-2013 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 9402469)
With the first choice you don't draft for need; you draft the best player out there. You go in one direction and one direction only, and that's for the sure thing. You absolutely, positively must be sold that whomever you choose steps in, starts and becomes the foundation of your franchise for the next 5-10 years.


LMAO


What a stupid article and stupid premise. There's not a single player in this entire draft that fits the above description.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-14-2013 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9402486)
Nevermind that.

These guys are now OPENLY ACKNOWLEDGING that teams should tank during SPECIFIC seasons so they can target SPECIFIC guys.

I'm sure the NFL LOVES this.

Yeah, I think my head is about to explode scanners style by reading their crap.

bevischief 02-14-2013 11:16 AM

jfc

loochy 02-14-2013 11:18 AM

this doesnt even make sense

Pasta Little Brioni 02-14-2013 11:18 AM

Let's let teams continue to "reach" for guys like Big Ben, Flacco, and Ryan whilst we draft "sure things" like Ryan Simms, Glenn Dorsey, and Jekyll. Can't wait for another decade of not winning a playoff game.

Mr. Laz 02-14-2013 11:19 AM

In before 1000

RealSNR 02-14-2013 11:22 AM

I'm surprised Judge took Eric Craft's dick out of his mouth long enough to write this

WhiteWhale 02-14-2013 11:23 AM

Clark Judge: "Damon Huard is better than Trent Green"

Nothing he says has merit after that bullshit.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-14-2013 11:24 AM

i truly want hit this mother****er with a baseball bat.
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The Franchise 02-14-2013 11:24 AM

Jarvis Jones - Part time player
Damontre Moore - Part time player
Luke Joeckel - Waste of three draft picks
Dee Milliner - Drafting a #2 CB is ****ing stupid at #1
Star Lotululei - Yay! Another d lineman in the Top 10.



DRAFT A ****ING QB!

Prison Bitch 02-14-2013 11:26 AM

If there was an LT out there at running back, we could consider it. But therein lies the rub...

htismaqe 02-14-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9402515)
Let's let teams continue to "reach" for guys like Big Ben, Flacco, and Ryan whilst we draft "sure things" like Ryan Simms, Glenn Dorsey, and Jekyll. Can't wait for another decade of not winning a playoff game.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma...gdkgo1_400.gif

the Talking Can 02-14-2013 11:28 AM

"OH NOES! IT RISKY!"




it will never end....just draft anything but a QB and waste another decade...that's fine because it isn't 'risky'

30 years isn't nearly enough wasted to risk a QB

The Franchise 02-14-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

They can find one by trading out and moving down or by staying put and choosing a quarterback at the top of the second round, much as San Diego did in 2001. Instead of taking Michael Vick with the first selection, the Bolts that year traded the pick to Atlanta, then tapped running back LaDainian Tomlinson with the pick acquired from the Falcons and quarterback Drew Brees at the top of the second round.
What did Brees win the Chargers?

DTLB58 02-14-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9402486)
Nevermind that.

These guys are now OPENLY ACKNOWLEDGING that teams should tank during SPECIFIC seasons so they can target SPECIFIC guys.

I'm sure the NFL LOVES this.

Yep. suck for Luck alive and well! :thumb:

Those who thought that was stupid, how are you feeling now?

MahiMike 02-14-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9402488)
LMAO


What a stupid article and stupid premise. There's not a single player in this entire draft that fits the above description.

Joeckel does.

Frosty 02-14-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 9402469)
In fact, one guy I trust who studied this class of quarterbacks thinks it's so underwhelming he's not sure there's a legit first-rounder in there.

I'm guessing this is Brandt, who has already shown he's gone senile with his mock draft.

htismaqe 02-14-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9402563)
Yep. suck for Luck alive and well! :thumb:

Those who thought that was stupid, how are you feeling now?

What do you mean?

The same folks that said "tanking for a draft pick is for pussies" are now saying "can't take Geno, he's no Luck!"

htismaqe 02-14-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9402574)
Joeckel does.

ROFL

Pasta Little Brioni 02-14-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9402552)

I need the gif of the guy that lights himself on fire and jumps from that tall building to show my emotion.

The Franchise 02-14-2013 11:43 AM

Charger's playoff appearances under Brees - 1
Charger's playoff appearances under Rivers - 4

Fish 02-14-2013 11:46 AM

Quote:

With the first choice you don't draft for need; you draft the best player out there. You go in one direction and one direction only, and that's for the sure thing. You absolutely, positively must be sold that whomever you choose steps in, starts and becomes the foundation of your franchise for the next 5-10 years.
OK then...

Quote:

That doesn't mean there won't be a quarterback taken in the first round. Of course there will. There will be more than one. It's a passing league, and clubs that don't have good, young quarterbacks can't wait to get their hands on one.
Well now wait a second..

mdchiefsfan 02-14-2013 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9402581)
I need the gif of the guy that lights himself on fire and jumps from that tall building to show my emotion.

http://images.wikia.com/callofduty/i...indow_Fall.gif

LMAO

Bowser 02-14-2013 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9402574)
Joeckel does.

Remember the days when they said Robert Gallery was an absolute can't miss at left tackle for an NFL team? Rated higher than any other tackle, ever? Only gave up one sack his entire college career, and on and on?

Yeah.

Bowser 02-14-2013 11:49 AM

It's like none of these pissants even try when writing this crap. If a QB is worthy of being taken if we trade down to say 5 or 6, then he's ****ing well worth being taken one overall. The new rookie cap pretty much destroys the old thinking of what "value" is at the top of the first round.

saphojunkie 02-14-2013 11:50 AM

Can we please fly a banner over Arrowhead that says "WE WILL BE PATIENT WITH A QB DRAFTED #1 - WE PROMISE"

MahiMike 02-14-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9402605)
Remember the days when they said Robert Gallery was an absolute can't miss at left tackle for an NFL team? Rated higher than any other tackle, ever? Only gave up one sack his entire college career, and on and on?

Yeah.

True. No kid is a can't miss really. But as positions in the NFL go, tackle is about as safe as you get. I sure know there are few teams that know how to draft a D-lineman.

And 2011 QB's proved they're the biggest crap shoot.

htismaqe 02-14-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9402605)
Remember the days when they said Robert Gallery was an absolute can't miss at left tackle for an NFL team? Rated higher than any other tackle, ever? Only gave up one sack his entire college career, and on and on?

Yeah.

Joeckel is better than Robert Gallery. Duh.

htismaqe 02-14-2013 11:53 AM

Yeah, let's go safe! We can wait another 20 years for a playoff win! Yeah!

Crush 02-14-2013 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9402574)
Joeckel does.


http://i48.tinypic.com/11v7gpl.jpg

Fish 02-14-2013 11:54 AM

Also... this don't make a **** bit of sense....

Quote:

With the first choice you don't draft for need; you draft the best player out there. You go in one direction and one direction only, and that's for the sure thing. You absolutely, positively must be sold that whomever you choose steps in, starts and becomes the foundation of your franchise for the next 5-10 years.
Quote:

So that makes Kansas City's options easy: Either stay where you are and choose the best player -- a pass rusher, maybe, or a left tackle
So the first choice absolutely positively must be sold as the foundation for the next 5-10 years. So who would that be? I don't know a pass rusher, maybe, or some shit who knows....

ptlyon 02-14-2013 11:55 AM

Just had a thought - won't it be ironic if Joeckel is drafted by us #1 and then the most hated current player in KC?

Jerm 02-14-2013 11:55 AM

The people that advocate Joeckel or Star I simply ask....why?

WHY?!?

Neither of them improve this team at all...talk about wasting a pick.

I've yet to see a valid argument for either....because there isn't one.

Crush 02-14-2013 11:55 AM

How does letting Albert go and drafting Joeckel make the team better?

htismaqe 02-14-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9402631)
So the first choice absolutely positively must be sold as the foundation for the next 5-10 years. So who would that be? I don't know a pass rusher, maybe, or some shit who knows....

http://i.imgur.com/KrZEk.gif

Ebolapox 02-14-2013 11:56 AM

really? from my perspective, they can't afford NOT to take a QB.

ToxSocks 02-14-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9402574)
Joeckel does.

????

what?

No the **** he does not.

htismaqe 02-14-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9402635)
How does letting Albert go and drafting Joeckel make the team better?

Another rhetorical question.

ToxSocks 02-14-2013 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 9402634)
The people that advocate Joeckel or Star I simply ask....why?

WHY?!?

Neither of them improve this team at all...talk about wasting a pick.

I've yet to see a valid argument for either....because there isn't one.

Those people can't tell you why. Same way they can't tell you why NOT a QB...well...other than, "Did you see the pinstripe bowl?"

Crush 02-14-2013 11:57 AM

Also, I'm sure the Dolphins have no regrets drafting Jake Long over Matt Ryan and settling for Chad Henne in the second round. The same Jake Long who will probably not be back with Miami next year.

Rain Man 02-14-2013 11:58 AM

I was worried that having the #1 pick would make the offseason kind of boring. That hasn't happened. It does make the offseason kind of stressful, though.

Bowser 02-14-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9402622)
True. No kid is a can't miss really. But as positions in the NFL go, tackle is about as safe as you get. I sure know there are few teams that know how to draft a D-lineman.

And 2011 QB's proved they're the biggest crap shoot.

The Chiefs don't need "safe". The Chiefs need a playmaker at quarterback, period. Geno may not be the next Luck, but I'd be willing to bet he's better than Bradford, Dalton, and Tannehill. That sound good to you?

If we pass on Geno, there are going to be about 4 or five teams drafting a few slots right behind us that will be doing cartwheels. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that there would be no way the Raiders would let him slip past them. That would be fun, watching Geno rape our eyeballs out for the next decade while we watch Joeckel protect the Ricky Stanzi's of the world. That would be like taking Donald Stephenson one pick before Seattle took Russell Wilson, only on a much grander scale. **** that idea right in its filthy ass.

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9402652)
I was worried that having the #1 pick would make the offseason kind of boring. That hasn't happened. It does make the offseason kind of stressful, though.

Jesus Christ does it ever.

It's like every day we're almost going to win one of the games we lost last season.

Bowser 02-14-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9402635)
How does letting Albert go and drafting Joeckel make the team better?

SIGN HIM AND MOVE HIM TO GUARD HE PLAYED THERE IN COLLEGE YOU KNOW

Rain Man 02-14-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9402654)
Jesus Christ does it ever.

It's like every day we're almost going to win one of the games we lost last season.

That's a good way to phrase it.

saphojunkie 02-14-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9402660)
SIGN HIM AND MOVE HIM TO GUARD HE PLAYE THERE IN COLLEGE YOU KNOW

I really love reading your posts and imagining your avatar saying them. LMAO

Bob Dole 02-14-2013 12:04 PM

When was the last time there was an NFL draft when ANYONE said, "There isn't a first round QB in the draft."

That's right...the ****ing year KC gets the first pick in the draft.

SNAKEBIT!

tits

Bowser 02-14-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9402664)
I really love reading your posts and imagining your avatar saying them. LMAO

"It looks like the Chiefs are going to take Star Lotulelei with that first overall pick....."

"BOLD STRATEGY COTTON LET'S SEE HOW IT PANS OUT"

ThatRaceCardGuy 02-14-2013 12:05 PM

I hope he hits a tree on the way home... doing 100mph while being raped by an abnormaly large and hung yetti

bevischief 02-14-2013 12:05 PM

:popcorn:ROFL

This is freaking Ground hog day in this place.

Bump 02-14-2013 12:05 PM

Bradford was a sure #1
Alex Smith was a sure #1
Sanchez was a sure top 5
Leinart would have been a sure #1
Vince Young was a sure top 10


so, you know what? **** these experts cause they don't know shit.

Geno Smith is the shit, I'm gonna be pissed if we pass on him. BECAUSE DRAFTING LINEMAN GOT US HERE!

Crush 02-14-2013 12:05 PM

The tackle position is not a safe pick.

Do the names Tony Mandarich, Kenyatta Walker, Mike Williams, Robert Gallery, Tony Ugoh, and Jason Smith mean anything to the true fans?

The Franchise 02-14-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 9402673)
When was the last time there was an NFL draft when ANYONE said, "There isn't a first round QB in the draft."

That's right...the ****ing year KC gets the first pick in the draft.

SNAKEBIT!

tits

They're only saying it BECAUSE the Chiefs have the 1st pick. Guarantee you if the Raiders had the first pick....they'd be all about them drafting Geno. You'd read stories about how you can't let a previous bust stop you from trying again.

T-Town 02-14-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 9402469)
Cover of cbssports.com:

if you think I'm kidding you weren't listening to what Frank Scelfo, Jacksonville's quarterbacks coach, said about Blaine Gabbert the other day

You want us to listen to Frank Scelfo, whose biggest accomplishment was Nick ****ing Foles????? GTFO. Between crap like this, the dumbasses who think taking Jokeyl is a better idea than taking a shot at a QB in a pass happy league, and the people who think its best to find more ****ing weapons for Matt Cassel, I'm going to go insane by the time the draft comes around and won't be able to watch all the idiots cry when we do draft Geno #1.

htismaqe 02-14-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9402683)
The tackle position is not a safe pick.

Do the names Tony Mandarich, Kenyatta Walker, Mike Williams, Robert Gallery, Tony Ugoh, and Jason Smith mean anything to the true fans?

Tackles are always safe.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.49784...22778&pid=15.1

COchief 02-14-2013 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9402485)
You ever read the tripe this traitor has written?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=237636

My blood, it's boiling...:mad:

KCDC 02-14-2013 12:20 PM

The Jaguar's/ Raiders/Bills/Cardinals front office continues its covert media campaign to try and convince the Chiefs to pass on Geno so they can grab him.

LoneWolf 02-14-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9402557)
What did Brees win the Chargers?

A ride out of town after the Chargers spent what was essentially the number 1 overall pick on another QB. Good thing the Chargers traded down and drafted for value.

Bob Dole 02-14-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9402685)
They're only saying it BECAUSE the Chiefs have the 1st pick. Guarantee you if the Raiders had the first pick....they'd be all about them drafting Geno. You'd read stories about how you can't let a previous bust stop you from trying again.

The point is that Bob Dole cannot recall EVER hearing anyone say there was not a QB in the entire draft who was a solid first round pick.

htismaqe 02-14-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9402654)
Jesus Christ does it ever.

It's like every day we're almost going to win one of the games we lost last season.

I'm honestly about ready to quit again. This offseason SUCKS.

ToxSocks 02-14-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9402775)
I'm honestly about ready to quit again. This offseason SUCKS.

I hear ya. **** it, Im logging. I'll be back later.

BigChiefFan 02-14-2013 12:42 PM

Judge must have fallen on his head. That's laughable.

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 9402795)
Judge must have fallen on his head. That's laughable.

He's been deep throating Carl and Pioli forever.

King_Chief_Fan 02-14-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Town (Post 9402700)
You want us to listen to Frank Scelfo, whose biggest accomplishment was Nick ****ing Foles????? GTFO. Between crap like this, the dumbasses who think taking Jokeyl is a better idea than taking a shot at a QB in a pass happy league, and the people who think its best to find more ****ing weapons for Matt Cassel, I'm going to go insane by the time the draft comes around and won't be able to watch all the FANS cry when we do draft Geno #1.

I don't care who they draft, they don't pay me for the successes of the team or blame me for the failures. I get to sit on the sideline and watch if I want or go golf when I don't. You all have to get something else going in your life. Chiefs will suck the life out of you.

Bowser 02-14-2013 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9402796)
He's been deep throating Carl and ***** forever.

What pull does Pioli have with these hacks, anyway? Fat Scott might well be the world's best used car salesman, ever.

Dayze 02-14-2013 12:51 PM

'can't afford' lmao.

WTF.
yeah, if we take one, it might set us back another 41 years and we'd miss out on those awesome 8-8 seasons

htismaqe 02-14-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 9402807)
I don't care who they draft, they don't pay me for the successes of the team or blame me for the failures. I get to sit on the sideline and watch if I want or go golf when I don't. You all have to get something else going in your life. Chiefs will suck the life out of you.

WISDOM.

Hoover 02-14-2013 01:07 PM

So I guess we can say that Luck and RGIII have made all NFL reporters stupid.

There are no locks in the draft. RGIII was not a lock. Luck was, but that doesn't happen much. The notion that our pick has to be the foundation of your franchise for the next 5-10 years takes the risk and reward aspect out of the draft. What are we supposed to do, take a guard? Screw that and screw you Judge.

ndws 02-14-2013 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 9402634)
The people that advocate Joeckel or Star I simply ask....why?

WHY?!?

Neither of them improve this team at all...talk about wasting a pick.

I've yet to see a valid argument for either....because there isn't one.

I think the Joeckel stuff really hinges on Albert, his health, getting resigned, etc...

Star, I'm not overly opposed to. I'm about as ready to see Dorsey and Jackson on another team as I am Cassel and Quinn.

We have quite a few major needs, depending on how free agency pans out. I could be happy with a QB that they feel is the best, but I could be equally happy with Canty and Star coming to the DL and grabbing an QB at the top of the 2nd. At this point leading up to the draft, I'm not seeing that many QB's going off in the first round.

A QB would be my priority, but after the teams grades are realized and should none score that well, I would be good with the best player available.

Sorter 02-14-2013 02:24 PM

You realize that Landry Jones is the QB that's going to be available at the top of the 2nd?

Barkley, Wilson, Glennon, and Nassib are all probably going in the 1st round. Manuel could go too.

Hammock Parties 02-14-2013 02:27 PM

I would be shocked if Nassib and Manuel go in the 1st.

I think they go in this order:

Geno
Wilson
Barkley
Glennon

The only exception might be the Raiders getting all horny for Glennon's arm and saying "**** it."

ndws 02-14-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9403039)
You realize that Landry Jones is the QB that's going to be available at the top of the 2nd?

Barkley, Wilson, Glennon, and Nassib are all probably going in the 1st round. Manuel could go too.

Landry Jones would be horrible. I'm not a fan of Nassib either. Barkley, meh. Wilson would be worth the 2nd, and I wouldn't be opposed to Manuel in the 2nd either.

You really see 5 QB's going off in the first round of this year's draft? They might, but I would be extremely surprised.

PaulAllen 02-14-2013 02:30 PM

HAI GUYZ, U SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED QB LAST YEARZ, HAHAHA DERP


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