Shanahan Grilled by DC Press (Says the MRI Might Be Wrong Because of Old Injuries)
 

Watching Shanahan get questioned about putting RG3 into the game long enough to watch his knee go side-ways. Getting peeved. Fun to watch him squirm. The fact that he didn't come out and say RG3 was fine and instead is sending him to Dr. Andrews for another set of MRIs ("sometimes old injuries can fool new MRIs") doesn't sound good...

What is the possible injury then? And how serious?

I didn't watch the game. What happened to RGIII?

Bad snap in shotgun formation, twisted knee when trying to cover ball.

On his last play, he fumbled the snap and went down ... it kinda looked like he was trying to scratch the back of his head with his patella.

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Career likely over.

Really, Dr. Shannarat? I think this was misquoted. It should have read:

"I didn't really get clearance from any team physician".

It's true that MRIs are hardly exact. Half the time, the same MRI will give multiple, differing results depending on who is reading them. Been there. Got shirt.

Still, Rizzo screwed the pooch putting the entire franchise on the line like that. Especially considering what they gave up to acquire RG No Knee.

I feel terrible for the kid. It's just horrific that his career may be cut short due to the selfishness of Rizzo and his son. Disgusting, is what it is.

Go Wally!!!

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DAMMIT COACH KILMER!!!!!!1111

The ****? It wasn't that bad. Maybe an ACL/MCL which should take him out for about 6-8 months.


I'm starting to be okay with not trading for him. I don't think he'll be in the league for more than 3-5 years.

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He's there to win games. I'm sure he begged Shanahan not to play...

I was overreacting to the overreacting.

This was Shanahans plan from the very beginning.

Ruin his knee so he can't run as he did in college, forcing him to become a pocket passer.

I first read that as, "Been there. Got skirt." And I was like, "Me, too, brah...me, too."

The fans here in the DC area are furious and 99% are really pissed he stayed in so long. He was hurting early on and should have come out earlier.

The bad thing for Shanny is Dr. Andrews unintentionally calling him a liar.

So they wanted to just forfeit a playoff game?

Actually, there's little doubt that RG No Knee probably begged to play in that game. So, you have a rookie telling Rizzo it's okay? Against doctors orders?

I'm not sure what you're trying to convey in that post, but damn ... I hope it's not what it sounds like. Defending Rizzo on this deal?

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http://nfl.cpl.delvenetworks.com/pla...21492a6d55eff7

About the 7:35 mark. Ouch.

Truck broke.

They probably realized the odds of them doing anything in the playoffs were shit and it was more important to protect the franchise.

I don't get it. The guy could barely walk after playing a quarter and a half.

Actually, I'd like to hear the argument as to why Rizzo made the right decision to A) Play him in the first place and/or B) Not pull him after they were up by 14.

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Of course not!

He was around 50-60% to start and lost mojo as the game wore on. They have a lot of faith in Kirk Cousins and felt a 100% Cousins had a better chance then a 50% RGIII who relies so much on his legs to run. No ability to run kills so much of his threat.

Plus, they are afraid to destroy a career so early on like a racehorse that shouldn't run and does then is put down.

ROFL That's messed up!

Andrews was on the sideline. Where was Andrews telling Shanhan to pull him? Where was he arguing for his client/patient?

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Judging from Shanahan's remarks, RGIII injury situation can't be good. 2nd opinions. Flying to Andrews. References to AP and RG3's '09 ACL

Good question.

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If he pulled him they would be pissed off & asking today why he did...

Damn! Talk about setting a franchise back. All they gave up tp get this guy and then mismanaged an injury like that. :doh!:

Wish RG3 the best but hope ShannaRat chokes on it

And Rizzo could say "injury" and that would be the end of it.

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That's why they get paid the big bucks

Shanahan is in a no win situation unless they win the game.

If he pulls Griffin and they lose then Griffin gets questioned - Did you ask to come out? No. Did a Dr. tell you you couldn't play? No. Did you tell coach Shannahan you couldn't play? No.

yep

Not if they were actually watching the game Dude couldn't hardly move after the 2nd TD pass. Got hurt on the play right before that TD.

Thought you had to go somewhere? (from a post from another thread) :)

Seriously? I wasn't aware of that, once the outcome was obvious, I locked in on watching the Shockers and Jayhawks.

Rumors on Twitter that he has a torn ACL & MCL and is out 14-18 months...

Holy ish if true...watch out Shanahan.

Exactly so. It wasn't as though it wasn't obvious. And that, of course, is why Rizzo is taking so much heat.

The only possible justifications for leaving him in are, A) Important game worth risking losing your QB in or B) Didn't want to put up with press questions, or C) QB wanted to play and who am I to deny his opportunity or D) ... ??? ... forgot?? Yeah ... forgot to take him out. That's it.

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Torn ACL and PCL Per ESPN Radio 980 in Washington DC

I did and I do.

Got stuck. Started a thread. Too excited about the future. Agog. And other stuff, too.

Go Wally!!!

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Oh well, they still have Cousins.....

Whoa Nellie

14-18 months while Peterson missed less then half of that?

Yep, that's what I heard also.

SportsGirl101 ‏@Arianna8927

TERRIBLE NEWS! “@McBlondeLand: @Arianna8927 Update at the top.... RGIII has torn his ACL and PCL WRIC Richmond News http://www.wric.com/story/20523289/r...SkJZmN.twitter … …”

Sheesh. That sucks.

How? I thought we were trading for him? :doh!:

Adrian Peterson begs to differ.

So does Jamaal.

From my reliable sources, he has torn the A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y & Z CL's.

The JCL is the most serious.

Peterson tore his ACL and MCL
Jamall tore his ACL

The PCL is most rare tear in the Knee and is very difficult to repair in surgery.

What's a ZJ?

If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

ROFL - glad to finally see some excitement around here

I will literally be sick if this kid's career is ****ed because of this. That will be a damn shame. He can be something very special.

At least they'll get a shot at a QB in next year's draft...

Adrian Peterson is most likely not from this planet, I wouldn't use him as the example to judge knee injury rehab.
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THIS.

If Cousins had played the whole game, they would still have lost.

And Shanahan would be getting raked over the coals for that.

My uncle was in a car wreck that damaged his knee (along with a lot of other stuff). His surgeons were very reluctant to operate on the PCL damage involved ... apparently, you're right ... not an easy fix ... at all.

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Well, for a Chiefs fan, days like these only come along once every hundred years or so, Mr. ptlyon.

It's time to get your Wally on.

Go Wally!!!

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At least we know that the Chiefs won't be trading for Cousins now.

This what?

This, RGIII gets asked a question that he doesn't even have to answer?

Wow. With all respect, Mr. htismaqe, I think you're on the wrong side of this one and a re-think is in order.

Normally, I'm with you 100% on stuff ... even the bad stuff and incorrect stuff. But this? Damn.

Rizzo should have pulled the rookie when he saw him struggling to walk. The kid was already injured.

This case is very much like Berry's injury ... he was hurt, they let him back in, and the next thing you know ... BOOM!!! .... out for the season.

Coaches have to make tough decisions. Decisions like this one right here. No single game is worth RGIII's entire career ... particularly considering what he cost to acquire.

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Shaun Merriman and Carson Palmer is prime examples of what a PCL tear can do to a player.

Leaving him in the game wasn't nearly as stupid as continuing to run option plays forcing him to scramble when he could barely run. I think we all pretty much commented about it in the game thread. There was no excuse for that.
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I completely tore my acl, pcl mcl and lcl, the pcl is a substantial ligament, mine was repaired with a cadaver achiles tendon, it is still a bit loose front to back.

Roids

:eek: WTF did you do?

Dude, Shanahan could have pulled him. And he'd be getting grilled about it right now because they LOST.

Bottom line is it's pretty ****ing obvious that RG3 is going to be hurt for the better part of his career, however long that might be.

You can't protect him or eventually he's sitting on the bench even when he's healthy. The GREAT RG3 isn't that "great" if he can't stay on the field.

Honestly, I'm pretty ****ing sick of the RG3 talk already.

Jesus, man. Do you mean your leg was ripped off at the knee?

"We can rebuild him. We have the technology."

Palmer's knee was not just a PCL. He was ACL, MCL and dislocated his patella. His knee had to look like spaghetti.

So now RGIII has torn both knees.

And TMJ.

This. It was a major coaching failure.

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This sucks. I really like that kid. I hope he can rehab and come back some day...that's ****ing horrible.

A PWC exploded under me when I went to start it, it blasted me 20' into the air and broke my back and dislocated my knee, luckily the artery didn't get pinched or ruptured. I'm as good as new now, but my knee is a little sloppy.

JFC!
when I check out of this life,, that's how I want to go.

PWC?

ESPN 980 ‏@ESPNRadio980

Richmond station backs off of RG3 story. Here is screen grab of original story pic.twitter.com/IyEdHqsz
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personal water craft I believe.

Gotcha. Thanks.

nevermind

yup .. and now we'll see if he was worth the pick and the money .. i doubt it .....