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petegz28 12-09-2012 03:03 PM

It has gone beyond embarrassing
 
When you lose the way we did against Cleveland you suddenly find yourself staring at 2-11 and being embarrassed would be an improvement. Today we saw in a nutshell the complete and utter stupidity that Pioli has spent the better part of 4 years putting together.

We bitched about this team early in the season, gave up on them mid-way and now actually root for a loss in hopes for a good draft spot. Unfortunately a new QB, regardless of who it is or how high he is drafted, is not going to help this sorry ass compilation of fail and suck.

Think about the mess Pioli has created in just under 4 years that we now have to clean up in a hurry, somehow.

1. No QB's
2. No WR's...Bowe will walk leaving us with nothing worth a ****
3. No LT, I expect Albert to walk from this abortion
4. No DE's, Dorsey will walk and TJ still sucks
5. No punter..Colquitt can walk this year
6. No secondary, save flowers
7. 1 RB worth a shit
8. No Center worth a ****
9. No HC worth a ****
10. No OC worth a ****
11. No DC worth a ****
12. No ST coach worth a ****
13. No kicker worth a ****

So as I see it, we need at least 2 QB's, 2 WR's, a center, 2 DE's, 2 CB's, 1-2 Safetys, a HC, an OC, a DC, a ST coach, a kicker, a punter and of course a new GM

/rant off

Hammock Parties 12-09-2012 03:04 PM

it's a pete thread

Discuss Thrower 12-09-2012 03:05 PM

The fact that people don't think we need a multi-year rebuild is baffling to me.

Brock 12-09-2012 03:05 PM

:facepalm:

ArrowheadMagic 12-09-2012 03:06 PM

What about the refs? Umps? There is no true /rant...... without

KurtCobain 12-09-2012 03:07 PM

Just about

KCUnited 12-09-2012 03:09 PM

:facepalm:

petegz28 12-09-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9193206)
The fact that people don't think we need a multi-year rebuild is baffling to me.

For some reason I am just pissed about this loss. It's not that we lost but it's things like,

Breaston on the bench and we have no WR worth a ****
An OC that refuses to pass the ball regardless
The TO at the end of the half to only runa ****ing draw play


it's just the level of stupidity

-King- 12-09-2012 03:09 PM

Cool story sis.

crazychiefsfan 12-09-2012 03:09 PM

Whooo Hooo...closer to the #1 pick

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-09-2012 03:09 PM

When they start throwing to Baldwin it will all turn around.

petegz28 12-09-2012 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazychiefsfan (Post 9193251)
Whooo Hooo...closer to the #1 pick

That ain't going to make much of a difference, unfortunately

the Talking Can 12-09-2012 03:10 PM

i'm glad you and coogs finally figured things out...

BlackHelicopters 12-09-2012 03:11 PM

Trying to decide who is more out of shape: RAC or Baldwin?

FAX 12-09-2012 03:12 PM

Don't listen to them, Mr. petegz28. I like your thread.

It's better even than Mr. gblowfish's 10 things thread. Yours has 13 things plus some additional, miscellaneous stuff on top of that.

FAX

htismaqe 12-09-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9193256)
That ain't going to make much of a difference, unfortunately

It will make a huge difference.

crazychiefsfan 12-09-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9193256)
That ain't going to make much of a difference, unfortunately

#1 Pick KICKS ASS!!!!!

ArrowheadMagic 12-09-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9193206)
The fact that people don't think we need a multi-year rebuild is baffling to me.


Yes because you never have new teams making the playoffs every year.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 12-09-2012 03:14 PM

It's funny because Bernie Kosar was right

Prison Bitch 12-09-2012 03:15 PM

Did people seriously watch this game? For what possible reason? I didn't watch even 5 minutes of it.

petegz28 12-09-2012 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9193267)
It will make a huge difference.

How so? There has to be a ton of other shit happen for any pick, #1 or anything else, to be a difference maker.

Right now, if any part of this front office or coaching staff is here come draft time then we might as well trade away our draft pick. Pioli, even if he made the best pick of the draft, will find some way to **** it up.

Discuss Thrower 12-09-2012 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 9193281)
Yes because you never have new teams making the playoffs every year.

Starting QB, back-up QB.
Two starting WRs.
A spell HB.
Two or more starting OL.

A new DE/DT to replace Dorsey.
New ILB. Safety. At least one new CB, probably two.

That's eleven picks or free agents.

KC will not contend for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time.

GloryDayz 12-09-2012 03:17 PM

Based on the clowns behind the wheel, just because we have a 1st round pick doesn't mean they'll use it well. And it's not a QB-rich class anyway... Ugh!

FloridaMan88 12-09-2012 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9193288)
Did people seriously watch this game? For what possible reason? I didn't watch even 5 minutes of it.

To ensure the Chiefs don't mess up the chance to get the #1 overall pick further.

Marcellus 12-09-2012 03:18 PM

Aside from actual death I dont think there is much of anything worse than embarrassment.

htismaqe 12-09-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9193291)
How so? There has to be a ton of other shit happen for any pick, #1 or anything else, to be a difference maker.

Right now, if any part of this front office or coaching staff is here come draft time then we might as well trade away our draft pick. Pioli, even if he made the best pick of the draft, will find some way to **** it up.

Of the #1 pick is a QB, anything can happen.

Forget about Pioli and Crennel. They're goners.

Prison Bitch 12-09-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9193301)
To ensure the Chiefs don't mess up the chance to get the #1 overall pick further.


Seems like I got the same info, after spending the afternoon walking my dog in the park.

petegz28 12-09-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9193312)
Of the #1 pick is a QB, anything can happen.

Forget about Pioli and Crennel. They're goners.

I'm from Missouri

Sure-Oz 12-09-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9193189)
it's a pete thread

This....let it out pete

htismaqe 12-09-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9193298)
Starting QB, back-up QB.
Two starting WRs.
A spell HB.
Two or more starting OL.

A new DE/DT to replace Dorsey.
New ILB. Safety. At least one new CB, probably two.

That's eleven picks or free agents.

KC will not contend for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time.

The offensive line has one starter on IR and a decade vet playing center for the first time ever.

They're top half in the league.

JFC this fanbase overvalues o-line and as a result have no way to evaluate their play.

htismaqe 12-09-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9193321)
I'm from Missouri

Whoopity do.

It's the show me state, not the I am impatient so I will whine like a kid state.

Bugeater 12-09-2012 03:23 PM

I thought today's game went pretty well. :shrug:

ArrowheadMagic 12-09-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9193298)
Starting QB, back-up QB.
Two starting WRs.
A spell HB.
Two or more starting OL.

A new DE/DT to replace Dorsey.
New ILB. Safety. At least one new CB, probably two.

That's eleven picks or free agents.

KC will not contend for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time.

A little dramatic, well a lot.

Discuss Thrower 12-09-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 9193353)
A little dramatic, well a lot.

Who's on the roster now that's actually a legitimate NFL starter besides DJ, Charles, Tamba, Houston, Bowe, Flowers, and Berry?

MahiMike 12-09-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9193245)
For some reason I am just pissed about this loss.

I'm just pissed we won last week.

Bob Dole 12-09-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9193288)
Did people seriously watch this game? For what possible reason? I didn't watch even 5 minutes of it.

To take a shot every time KC shoots itself in the foot.

Bob Dole is trashed.

wazu 12-09-2012 03:27 PM

Colquitt leads the league in punts that pin opponents inside their own 20. But yeah, let's find somebody who doesn't lead the league. That'd make us better.

htismaqe 12-09-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9193359)
Who's on the roster now that's actually a legitimate NFL starter besides DJ, Charles, Tamba, Houston, Bowe, Flowers, and Berry?

Wow.

Just wow.

rabblerouser 12-09-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9193206)
The fact that people don't think we need a multi-year rebuild is baffling to me.

I don't think this franchise will EVER get its shit together...

Discuss Thrower 12-09-2012 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9193403)
Wow.

Just wow.

Forgot most of the starting OL, my bad. That's still a lack of talent.

-King- 12-09-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9193409)
Forgot most of the starting OL, my bad. That's still a lack of talent.

It's a lack of coaching. Blowouts happen because of lack of preparation. This coaching staff would have the Texans at 4-9 right now.

htismaqe 12-09-2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9193409)
Forgot most of the starting OL, my bad. That's still a lack of talent.

We have significant needs.

Saying having the #1 overall pick will make zero difference is ridiculous all the same.

-King- 12-09-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9193420)
We have significant needs.

Saying having the #1 overall pick will make zero difference is ridiculous all the same.

This.

The Redskins and the Colts had/still have significant needs, but adding a franchise QB still made a very big difference.

Bob Dole 12-09-2012 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9193417)
It's a lack of coaching. Blowouts happen because of lack of preparation. This coaching staff would have the Texans at 4-9 right now.

Lack of prep.
The complete inability to adjust on the fly.
Lack of understanding of the most basic concepts of game management.
Lack of imagination.
Inability to think critically.

"Not sure what happened. We'll have to look at the tape."

Discuss Thrower 12-09-2012 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9193420)
We have significant needs.

Saying having the #1 overall pick will make zero difference is ridiculous all the same.

Never said that. There's a good shot that the #1 will address one of the needs. I'm saying the holes on the team will need 2 or 3 drafts to address.

bevischief 12-09-2012 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9193363)
I'm just pissed we won last week.

This.

htismaqe 12-09-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9193451)
Never said that. There's a good shot that the #1 will address one of the needs. I'm saying the holes on the team will need 2 or 3 drafts to address.

I strongly disagree. A QB goes a long way to fixing the offense and an offense that's even 25% more effective on 3rd down makes the defense that much better.

Not to mention that getting rid of Crennel is worth a couple of wins all by itself.

The sky isn't falling.

BoneKrusher 12-09-2012 03:49 PM

it's a cluster ****

FringeNC 12-09-2012 03:52 PM

It all comes down to luck now. We're going to have a new GM, new coach, and will draft a QB with the first pick in the draft. Chances are there will be a true franchise QB taken in the draft -- but it's not obvious to me who that will be. Just as Pioli's failed tenure was defined by Matt Cassel, the new GM will be defined by that QB selection. He needs to get it right, or he'll fail, too.

PunkinDrublic 12-09-2012 03:55 PM

Was Moeaki being kept in to block? One meaningless catch wtf?

bevischief 12-09-2012 03:56 PM

Clean house and get a real qb and see this team turn it around.

King_Chief_Fan 12-09-2012 03:57 PM

lets start over

send this sorry bunch to LA

Rasputin 12-09-2012 03:57 PM

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...z3hpo1_500.gif

Bob Dole 12-09-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 9193525)
lets start over

send this sorry bunch to LA

And then what? Wait for some bored billionaire to petition the league for a team in KC for the next 30 years?

bevischief 12-09-2012 04:02 PM

Send in the midgets.

Discuss Thrower 12-09-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 9193534)
And then what? Wait for some bored billionaire to petition the league for a team in KC for the next 30 years?

Football won't be recognizable by that point so it might actually be a kindness...

Bob Dole 12-09-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9193538)
Send in the midgets.

Might as well.

We already sent in the clowns.

Titty Meat 12-09-2012 04:03 PM

Pete thread....

Otter 12-09-2012 04:10 PM

We just got the snot kicked out of us by the Cleveland Browns. It wasn't even close. think about that.

TEX 12-09-2012 04:14 PM

FACT - Pioli inherited a 2-14 team, and 4 years later actually made it worse.

TEX 12-09-2012 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 9193503)
It all comes down to luck now. We're going to have a new GM, new coach, and will draft a QB with the first pick in the draft. Chances are there will be a true franchise QB taken in the draft -- but it's not obvious to me who that will be. Just as Pioli's failed tenure was defined by Matt Cassel, the new GM will be defined by that QB selection. He needs to get it right, or he'll fail, too.

No way I draft a QB with the # 1 overall pick in this draft. I do everything I can to trade out of the # 1 pick if possible. Just the Chiefs luck that when they FINALLY SUCK bad enough to pick # 1 overall, there is no QB worthy of the selection. Hiring the RIGHT GM and HC is more important IMO.

Marcellus 12-09-2012 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9193616)
No way I draft a QB with the # 1 overall pick in this draft. I do everything I can to trade out of the # 1 pick if possible. Just the Chiefs luck that when they FINALLY SUCK bad enough to pick # 1 overall, there is no QB worthy of the selection.

**** no. You draft the QB who you think is best #1 QB and pay the guy that slot $.

This isnt 2 years ago where the #1 pick gets $50MM guaranteed. If you think you have a guy you want drat and pay him. Who cares if you are wrong?

We gave Cassel a $60MM contract and that's not the issue, the issue is we could have cut bait earlier and moved on earlier and didn't.

Messier 12-09-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9193597)
FACT - Pioli inherited a 2-14 team, and 4 years later actually made it worse.

I was just thinking today, was it Pioli or Haley that told Waters they could get 22 players off the street and win more that 2 games? If it was Pioli, he's got three games to prove he can do it with his hand picked team.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-09-2012 04:35 PM

The important thing here is that a True Fan is losing all faith and being raped simulataneously.

alanm 12-09-2012 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9193288)
Did people seriously watch this game? For what possible reason? I didn't watch even 5 minutes of it.

I fell asleep on the couch when it was 7-7 and missed the rest of the game. heh.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-09-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanm (Post 9193722)
I fell asleep on the couch when it was 7-7 and missed NOT A DAMNED THING.

FXD! :evil:

wazu 12-09-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanm (Post 9193722)
I fell asleep on the couch when it was 7-7 and missed the rest of the game. heh.

It was never 7-7. Maybe you fell asleep right before Cleveland got held to a field goal and you dreamed they got a TD.

ArrowheadMagic 12-09-2012 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9193490)
I strongly disagree. A QB goes a long way to fixing the offense and an offense that's even 25% more effective on 3rd down makes the defense that much better.

Not to mention that getting rid of Crennel is worth a couple of wins all by itself.

The sky isn't falling.

The Colts must need a massive rebuild based off last year. 2010 49ers need a massive rebuild...er wait... they only replaced a coach.

L.A. Chieffan 12-09-2012 04:46 PM

Browns really aren't a bad team. And they drafted a running back in the first round, maybe we should follow suit.

alanm 12-09-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 9193732)
It was never 7-7. Maybe you fell asleep right before Cleveland got held to a field goal and you dreamed they got a TD.

Well I remember Succop doinking the FG and Cleveland down inside the Chiefs 10 after that. I believe you're right they did kick a FG. ;)

FlaChief58 12-09-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9193597)
FACT - Pioli inherited a 2-14 team, and 4 years later actually made it worse.

Relax, it's part of the process. Pioli's got this shit

bevischief 12-09-2012 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 9193543)
Might as well.

We already sent in the clowns.

ROFL

alanm 12-09-2012 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9193730)
FXD! :evil:

I woke up right at the end just before they switched to the Redskins/Ravens game.

bevischief 12-09-2012 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9193709)
The important thing here is that a True Fan is losing all faith and being raped simulataneously.

The 400 pound man has been busy lately...

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-09-2012 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9193742)
Browns really aren't a bad team. And they drafted a running back in the first round, maybe we should follow suit.

TrollololololololololololLMAO

Seriously, who'd Mult is this? It's getting kind of old...

Bump 12-09-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9193616)
No way I draft a QB with the # 1 overall pick in this draft. I do everything I can to trade out of the # 1 pick if possible. Just the Chiefs luck that when they FINALLY SUCK bad enough to pick # 1 overall, there is no QB worthy of the selection. Hiring the RIGHT GM and HC is more important IMO.

it's dumbass thinking like that, that gets us no where. Why are you so scared to draft a QB? Geno is most certainly worth the #1 pick. WVU isn't all that great, but he is and whoever gets him will be glad they did.

That's the one thing that's been holding us back, but you would rather draft a ****ing lineman. JFC

Pasta Little Brioni 12-09-2012 04:57 PM

3 losses till Chocolate Painii. All is good.

RippedmyFlesh 12-09-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9193709)
The important thing here is that a True Fan is losing all faith and being raped simulataneously.

1 week and back to reality.

Brock 12-09-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9193616)
No way I draft a QB with the # 1 overall pick in this draft. I do everything I can to trade out of the # 1 pick if possible. Just the Chiefs luck that when they FINALLY SUCK bad enough to pick # 1 overall, there is no QB worthy of the selection. Hiring the RIGHT GM and HC is more important IMO.

Embarrassingly stupid.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-09-2012 05:04 PM

No QBs worth selecting....except that there actually is and we only need 1 to be awesome and the rest need to suck ass. Just got to grab the right one...the chocolatey one.


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