Score one more for SOC...
Soren Petro just said firing Romeo is irrelevant. There's no reason to do it.
"The signs don't say 'Fire RAC', they say 'Fire Pioli'." :bravo: |
The thing is.....we all understand that if Pioli is fired, the rest of the turds will be scooped out and spread in a field too.
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He just said it again - the only thing the fans will accept at this point is a complete housecleaning. |
I wonder if Bad Guy is hearing anything from the inside. I'd imagine things inside Arrowhead or like Defcon 1
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I'll be interested to see what starts coming out in the next few days from the guys here that have insider contacts (Frank, Boss, BRC, etc.)...
From what I'm hearing, some of the draconian tactics yesterday were mandated by Pioli, as if he's trying to protect his image going into the NEXT job. |
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we should mail the Pioli Document to Pioli.
mail about 10,000 copies to him. |
petro just articulated the reason SOC has been a success
he said he now thinks, for the first time, that Pioli will be fired (in spite of probably having been extended) because "he is cancerous" SOC made pioli cancerous... |
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The speculative part of it was that Pioli knew that it would further galvanize the Chiefs fanbase against him but at this point he doesn't care, because he knows he's done here. He's protecting future interests. I don't know, I don't have great sources like some of the other guys do. |
I'm sure Pioli has feelers out for his next job.
If he were to land in San Diego, how awesome would htat be. |
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So htis, you are hearing that it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he is gone and he knows he's gone?
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That being said, there's just too much smoke at this point. I don't see any logical, reasonable way he keeps his job and nobody that I talk to does either... |
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I really don't see how you bring anyone back at this point. Not just in the fans eyes, but everyone else in the NFL's eyes.
You bring back a front office from a 1-15 team? Nope |
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"PIOLI FIRED!" about 6 times in the LLLLLLLLLounge. Guess Clark just figures, we've already crashed and burned, what's the point in changing anything now. I would really love to hear Clark reassure the fans that he's going to take care of business....pipe dreams I know, but one can wish... |
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I'm guessing Cassel gets released the same day Pioli is fired.
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As for the rationale, that sounds like a bit of a stretch to me, to be honest. Purposefully and aggressively alienating the fan base doesn't seem like a job-seeking strategy of any sort whatsoever. It just sounds like a petty, egotistical, madman with Henry VIII Syndrome running wild. FAX |
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There's not one FUNCTIONAL reason to fire Pioli now. You'd be forced to finish the season with RAC or promote people from within the staff of the TWO GUYS YOU JUST FIRED. |
It really wouldn't be that long anyways. What.....6 more games? 6 more times that we're embarrassed.
**** dumping this shit now. That will only cause us to possibly win more games before this season is over. I want the suck to continue. |
Petro went on to say that if Pioli were fired today that all the arrows would be aimed at Clark, and Clark doesn't want or need that now. He further pointed out how that in KC, more than most other places, the gM is front and center, especially with an absentee owner. If Pioli really is done here, let him stick around and take his ass kickings until the end of the season, but the MINUTE the last game concludes, can his ass and anybody else's ass you want gone so you can start the search for a new GM and front office post haste.
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I want RAC to finish the season so we can have a legit chance at the #1 pick. |
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There absolutely IS harm in doing it now. If you do a complete housecleaning, you have to go out and get a new GM and coaching staff mid-season. All of the good candidates are currently busy. Plus, you don't want your new staff to have the inevitable 5 or 6 losses and the associated stink of the rest of the 2012 season stuck to them. Let them start fresh in 2013. This staff need to finish what the started. And then GTFO. |
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But as others have said 6 weeks is not that far away so I guess it doesn't really matter that much unless you want to give fans hope and fill the stadium the rest of the year. |
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Petro is asking if there is anything to be gained by firing the GM now? So here's the answer:
Yes. If Clark would fire Pioli now and hold a press conference, acknowledging the failings of the front office and therefore reasonable frustrations of the fans, while proclaiming that this will be solved and the organization will get healthy, fans would react very positively. We all know the rest of the season is going to be a dumpster fire, but Pioli's blood would temporarily quell the need for someone's ass. |
Could it be possible he's waiting to for the case against Pioli and his age discrimination bullshit? He was diposed on OCT 26 per 610
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Clark is waiting for sabans season to end before blowing up the news.
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I want the mother f**ker gone now but at the same time it probably won't make a difference until the end of the season. Let Pioli stew in his mess for a little while longer!
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Get Cowher in the wings. Work with him to find an appropriate match for GM and college scouting, and then focus in on trying to identify the franchise's next QB, which is the foundation. In terms of PR, which is turning the situation in KC highly toxic, Pioli cannot be allowed to finish the season. He's made the situation completely untenable, and this might have more far-reaching effects than simply pissing off the fans. |
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So we're right back to the only reason being to appease the fans. As much as the fans deserve to be appeased, there's no reason to be imprudent. |
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After the season he will have to hire a new GM who will decide who stays and who goes. |
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I'm not sure how much more definitive you could be. Its why they refused to touch or hold a sign like it was a heavy plutonium isotope when I tried to hand one to them. |
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This situation is poised to go from toxic to explosive, and thus our beloved SMU dork has to get out in front of this thing. From the other perspective, there is absolutely nothing gained by allowing Pioli to continue his fail campaign. He must go, and he must go now. |
I could 100% see Cowher as the hiring. Hunt is going to want a HC that has pull and can put the fans back in their seats. Hiring an unknown out of the college ranks or an up and coming coordinator isn't going to do that.
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So that rules out KC. |
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I eagerly await the final solution in which Pioli decides to round up the fans and put them on a train to Omaha. FAX |
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And this is exactly what Clark is going to have to pay handsomely to secure. |
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The history of the NFL is littered with guys that failed because they inherited a bad situation. The new guy needs to be able to make a clean break, in January. Think with your head, not your heart. |
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There are no checks and balances so to say for the guy. He was given ultimate power over the franchise, really, without proving he deserved it. Now it's getting really bad at 1 Arrowhead, because it's full of yes men. |
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We can "get by" with the guys we have and in the process secure a shiny #1 overall pick for the new regime. |
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I'm 100% convinced that Pioli is emotionally disturbed. Sunday removed all lingering doubt. He's nuts, man. There's reality and then there's the stuff rattling around in Pioli's skull. FAX |
Seems he's more interested in things other than football right now.
Great job SOC. We got him on the ropes. |
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So I don't know alot about the structure of the things around Pioli, but say he is fired. What all do you do? Who all is getting replaced?
Obviously you will need a new HC, OC, DC etc. But what else will be replaced? |
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I wonder if Gailey would be open to returning as BCs offensive coordinator if he gets the axe in Buffalo. Cowher immediately improves the defense by running the exact scheme these guys are made for and could win quickly with a qb like Geno Smith. |
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When/if he gets the axe, I wouldn't mind bringing in Rex as the DC.
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There are only positives because firing Pioli would truly "change the culture" and return the team to the fans. |
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I'd rather have a traditional OC that can develop QBs rather than an unconventional OC that can develop gimmicks... |
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That doesn't make any sense. EVERY person at 1 Arrowhead Drive is a Pioli lackey. EVERY SINGLE PERSON. So the only way you TRULY get rid of him is to fire EVERYONE and get somebody from outside of the organization. And that person gets to start their stint as GM by losing 6 straight to end the season. That's borderline reeruned, I'm sorry. This idea that you fire Pioli and "return the team to the fans" makes for a great Lifetime movie but it isn't grounded real firmly in reality. |
We can't bring back coaches who are already heavy with the stench of KC losses.
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There is no upside to keeping Pioli. There is nothing he is going to contribute. You don't have to clean house until after the last game, but everyone in the front office and coaching staff will know they are out. That is just an added bonus for us, who among this staff is going to try to win when they know they won't have a job in January? |
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Don't saddle the new GM with this shit show, just ride it out and end it when the season ends. |
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