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Chiefnj2 11-22-2017 09:24 AM

Penalties are killing the Chiefs
 
In addition to Smith reverting back to himself and all the other obvious problems, penalties are killing the team this year on both sides of the ball.

Offense
Holding, KC is tied for 2nd most with 19 penalties for 174 yards against.
False Starts, tied for 5th most with 13 penalties for 65 yards against.

Defense
Pass Interference, has given up the most yards in penalties - 191.
Holding, tied for 2nd most.

TLO 11-22-2017 09:24 AM

Penalties have been a major issue this year for sure.

scho63 11-22-2017 09:40 AM

Doing our best imitation of the Raiders and it's not good.

stumppy 11-22-2017 09:42 AM

Not surprised at the Def. penalties considering our D-backs.

MAG 11-22-2017 09:43 AM

Reid's teams never have any discipline. This isn't a surprise.

chiefzilla1501 11-22-2017 09:49 AM

For whatever reason, the league got it in their heads that there isn't enough offense. This is the worst I've seen in terms of calling dpi and refusing to call opi. And that really hurts a team like kc which is so dependent on pass coverage.

The Franchise 11-22-2017 09:52 AM

I’d be interested to see where the teams that run a lot of man like we do are at with penalties.

PAChiefsGuy 11-22-2017 09:53 AM

Yeah they are. We need to get that cleaned up quickly. It's an often overlooked factor in football but it can be a huge factor in winning or losing a football game when there is a big difference during a game.

Hydrae 11-22-2017 10:13 AM

Here is the total penalties for each game (do not have a breakdown on offense vs defense, etc):

@NE - 15 for 139
Philly - 4 for 40
@LAC - 13 for 122
Washington - 3 for 15
@Houston - 6 for 64
Pitt - 7 for 48
@Oak - 8 for 108
Denver - 7 for 69
@Dallas - 8 for 52
@NYG - 9 for 87

The Franchise 11-22-2017 10:15 AM

So we had the most penalties in the games that we won.

The outlier is the Raiders game where all of our penalties were ****ing costly.

dmahurin 11-22-2017 10:23 AM

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Rain Man 11-22-2017 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 13232662)
Here is the total penalties for each game (do not have a breakdown on offense vs defense, etc):

@NE - 15 for 139
Philly - 4 for 40
@LAC - 13 for 122
Washington - 3 for 15
@Houston - 6 for 64
Pitt - 7 for 48
@Oak - 8 for 108
Denver - 7 for 69
@Dallas - 8 for 52
@NYG - 9 for 87

Those numbers are like taking a big drink of curdled milk.

carcosa 11-22-2017 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAG (Post 13232624)
Reid's teams never have any discipline. This isn't a surprise.

He's definitely good at something other than scripting the first 10 plays and stumbling into regular season wins though

oldman 11-22-2017 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13232634)
For whatever reason, the league got it in their heads that there isn't enough offense. This is the worst I've seen in terms of calling dpi and refusing to call opi. And that really hurts a team like kc which is so dependent on pass coverage.

True, and it's total BS. I'm surprised we've only given up 191 in DPI. Seems like we give up half of that per game.

bowener 11-22-2017 11:05 AM

Slightly off topic, but why the **** is holding a 10-yard penalty and not 5 or just a loss of downs with no yardage penalty? And can it please just be a spot foul on kick returns. 5 yards from wherever it occurred at worst. PI should become a 10-yard penalty, auto first down. No more spot foul for that shit.

T-post Tom 11-22-2017 11:13 AM

Another reason contributing to Hunt's recent decline on the field. He had two nice runs called back vs. the Giants.

ptlyon 11-22-2017 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 13232790)
Another reason contributing to Hunt's recent decline on the field. He had two nice runs called back vs. the Giants.

Hence why they were nice runs

RippedmyFlesh 11-22-2017 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 13232776)
PI should become a 10-yard penalty, auto first down. No more spot foul for that shit.

I used to think this also similar to ncaa but the pros would just be coached to assault anyone 20+ yards down the field because the penalty isn't as bad as the complete pass.

Deberg_1990 11-22-2017 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13232640)
Yeah they are. We need to get that cleaned up quickly. It's an often overlooked factor in football but it can be a huge factor in winning or losing a football game when there is a big difference during a game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 13232662)
Here is the total penalties for each game (do not have a breakdown on offense vs defense, etc):

@NE - 15 for 139
Philly - 4 for 40
@LAC - 13 for 122
Washington - 3 for 15
@Houston - 6 for 64
Pitt - 7 for 48
@Oak - 8 for 108
Denver - 7 for 69
@Dallas - 8 for 52
@NYG - 9 for 87

I definitely agree that the Chiefs have a problem with penalties and its frustrating as a fan.

Have Reid teams always been this way?

Maybe he thinks that they can be overcome with big plays?

I would like to see some statistics that support that highly penalized teams = a losing team?

Maybe we fans read into penalties more than we should?

Do Super Bowl winning teams = less penalized teams?

RippedmyFlesh 11-22-2017 03:36 PM

The holding both ways and pi is players getting beat I get that is going to happen. Its the presnap penalties that drive me nuts. Lining up wrong or not knowing the snap count.

Deberg_1990 11-22-2017 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 13233201)
The holding both ways and pi is players getting beat I get that is going to happen. Its the presnap penalties that drive me nuts. Lining up wrong or not knowing the snap count.

Agreed. Annoying as hell. Makes me feel like they are unprepared. How does this o line coach still have a job?

KChiefs1 11-22-2017 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 13232662)
Here is the total penalties for each game (do not have a breakdown on offense vs defense, etc):

@NE - 15 for 139
Philly - 4 for 40
@LAC - 13 for 122
Washington - 3 for 15
@Houston - 6 for 64
Pitt - 7 for 48
@Oak - 8 for 108
Denver - 7 for 69
@Dallas - 8 for 52
@NYG - 9 for 87



I bet the OL & DB's have 95% of them.

NJChiefsFan 11-22-2017 09:25 PM

Reid has failed to fix this. Not sure he even cares.

JakeF 11-22-2017 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAG (Post 13232624)
Reid's teams never have any discipline. This isn't a surprise.

Discipline tends to be an issue with a Head Coach that is everyone's buddy.

Dartgod 11-22-2017 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13233120)
Hence why they were nice runs

I don't remember both of them, but I know one run was a BS ticky-tack call that really gave us no advantage on the play.


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