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Mile High Mania 09-22-2016 11:26 AM

Tonight - Texans @ Patriots
 
OK, so the Pats are 2-0 and now down to their 3rd QB. Can they pull off the victory? Does Houston really go to 3-0?

I have no idea what to make of this game. And, I have to think that some of the issues at QB and the early matchups are the reason why ratings are down.

I'm pretty sure we want NE to lose, we don't need them undefeated when Brady returns - as if it really matters for them in that division.

In58men 09-22-2016 11:37 AM

I heard Gronk should be playing tonight. I have a feeling Blount is going to have a day.

Easy 6 09-22-2016 11:40 AM

Both of these teams can get bent, I'm going fishing tonight

ptlyon 09-22-2016 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12442139)
Both of these teams can get bent, I'm going fishing tonight

To soon?

BleedingRed 09-22-2016 11:52 AM

Texans by 14

DaFace 09-22-2016 11:58 AM

I think the Texans will take it, but if not, my perception of Belichick will definitely improve even more. I've always been a "What's Belichick without Brady?" guy, but you can't deny that he's done just fine with shitty backup QBs too.

Easy 6 09-22-2016 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 12442155)
To soon?

Its always too soon for the patriots, and the texans need to just fade off into the farthest reaches of my mind

Amnorix 09-22-2016 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12442175)
I think the Texans will take it, but if not, my perception of Belichick will definitely improve even more. I've always been a "What's Belichick without Brady?" guy, but you can't deny that he's done just fine with shitty backup QBs too.


Every great coach, without fail, has had great talent, and more often than not, at the QB position. Do you downgrade Shula because he had Unitas, Griese, Csonka, Marino? Walsh because he had Montana? Paul Brown because he had Jim Brown and Otto Graham?

I think Belichick winning four Super Bowls, and going to six, with an ENTIRELY different team around Brady, is enough to prove his greatness. Sure, Brady is great, but is he really FIVE more SB appearances than Marino great, when Marino had Shula? TWO MORE SB WINS greater than Peyton?

It doesn't take away from Brady's greatness to recognize Belichick is great. It also doesn't take away from Belichick's greatness to recognize Brady is great.

Amnorix 09-22-2016 12:06 PM

Hard to see the Patriots winning this, to be honest. How they do much on offense with a third string, rookie, QB, and presumably without Gronk (I doubt he plays tonight, myself) is a real issue.

Red Dawg 09-22-2016 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12442186)
Every great coach, without fail, has had great talent, and more often than not, at the QB position. Do you downgrade Shula because he had Unitas, Griese, Csonka, Marino? Walsh because he had Montana? Paul Brown because he had Jim Brown and Otto Graham?

I think Belichick winning four Super Bowls, and going to six, with an ENTIRELY different team around Brady, is enough to prove his greatness. Sure, Brady is great, but is he really FIVE more SB appearances than Marino great, when Marino had Shula? TWO MORE SB WINS greater than Peyton?

It doesn't take away from Brady's greatness to recognize Belichick is great. It also doesn't take away from Belichick's greatness to recognize Brady is great.

I think I speak for us all when I say to you "SHUT THE **** UP" Go slob on
Bill and Gay boy on another board.

Red Dawg 09-22-2016 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12442175)
I think the Texans will take it, but if not, my perception of Belichick will definitely improve even more. I've always been a "What's Belichick without Brady?" guy, but you can't deny that he's done just fine with shitty backup QBs too.

Don't kid yourself. They would have a loss right now except the kick was missed. Brady is more important than Bill. McDaniels is more important than Bill. Go look at the Bill's record with the Browns. 36-44.

Don't give me the Matt argument either. He made the playoffs with us as well with the easy schedule he had there and here.

scho63 09-22-2016 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12442175)
I think the Texans will take it, but if not, my perception of Belichick will definitely improve even more. I've always been a "What's Belichick without Brady?" guy, but you can't deny that he's done just fine with shitty backup QBs too.

That miserable insufferable prick always finds a way to win with his teams. He is Lombardi like and I hate his guts but he is a winner under ever circumstance. :cuss:

jjchieffan 09-22-2016 12:43 PM

Texans win easy. You saw what they did to the juggernaut Chiefs offense last week. The Patriots don't have a chance. LMAO

Quesadilla Joe 09-22-2016 01:17 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Supposed to be a counter play - huge hole, too - but Clowney blows up *both* pullers <a href="https://t.co/sauD9jP2uH">https://t.co/sauD9jP2uH</a></p>&mdash; Chris B. Brown (@smartfootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/smartfootball/status/779028881353371648">September 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Amnorix 09-22-2016 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12442222)
I think I speak for us all when I say to you "SHUT THE **** UP" Go slob on
Bill and Gay boy on another board.



Thank you for sharing your opinion with me. I truly care deeply about what you think and your thoughts on all matters, including my participation on this board.

Easy 6 09-22-2016 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 12442247)
That miserable insufferable prick always finds a way to win with his teams. He is Lombardi like and I hate his guts but he is a winner under ever circumstance. :cuss:

Yeah, gotta give the devil his due... winning on the road against the vaunted Cardinals, without Brady or Gronk was impressive, and further proved that teams success definitely isnt all about Brady

Kman34 09-22-2016 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 12442336)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Supposed to be a counter play - huge hole, too - but Clowney blows up *both* pullers <a href="https://t.co/sauD9jP2uH">https://t.co/sauD9jP2uH</a></p>&mdash; Chris B. Brown (@smartfootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/smartfootball/status/779028881353371648">September 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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That's more of a piss poor effort on Reid than Clowny making a play

Amnorix 09-22-2016 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12442234)
Don't kid yourself. They would have a loss right now except the kick was missed. Brady is more important than Bill. McDaniels is more important than Bill. Go look at the Bill's record with the Browns. 36-44.

Don't give me the Matt argument either. He made the playoffs with us as well with the easy schedule he had there and here.


You are truly a genious. With a win tonight, Belichick will tie Curly Lambeau with the fourth-most wins in NFL coaching history. Meanwhile, EVERY Poll over the last ten or so years ranks Belichick #1 in terms of NFL head coach rankings -- even a poll of NFL head coaches and GMs.

Just a few examples:


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ESPN's Mike Sando surveyed eight current general managers, four former GMs, four personnel directors, four executives, six coordinators and four position coaches for the ranking. Sando asked them to rate every coach on a scale of 1 to 5, with 1 being the best.

According to the survey, the best coach in the NFL is a former Browns coach, Bill Belichick of the New England Patriots. Belichick had a 1.07 average. Voters cited his three championships and 11 consecutive seasons with double-digit victories.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/inde...ettine_10.html



http://www.nj.com/super-bowl/index.s...l_history.html


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1) Bill Belichick, New England Patriots
This should come as no surprise, given what Belichick has accomplished in his 16 years with the Patriots. What is most daunting, at least in terms of other coaches trying to match Belichick's legacy: New England's remarkable accomplishment of making 10 conference title games in the past 15 years. Only Tom Landry has equaled that kind of run. No other head coach has led his team to six Super Bowl appearances -- or five, for that matter, if we're condensing this to coaches who've been active in the past two decades. That's impressive.
http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000671714


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1. Bill Belichick
Career Record: 223-113 (.664)
With The Patriots Since: 2000
Last Year’s Ranking: 1

The greatest coach of all time isn’t just riding on his reputation in the top spot. Bill Belichick, who is 187-69 (.730) over 16 years in New England, has won at least 12 games each of the past six seasons. To put that in perspective, Bill Parcells oversaw four 12-win campaigns. Bill Walsh, three. The Cleveland Browns have one 12-win season since joining the NFL in 1950. Belichick’s run of success isn’t just historic, it’s completely without peer or precedent.

The Patriots couldn’t defend their title in 2015, but nevertheless came within three points of the Super Bowl despite having one of the league’s worst offensive lines and running games. Their 2014 defensive MVP, Darrelle Revis, was playing for a divisional rival (who missed the playoffs). The central “argument” against Belichick — besides his “Controversies” section on Wikipedia — has always been that he’s a product of Tom Brady. Any reasonable observer can probably discern that 187-69 wasn’t built on the back of one player, but even unreasonable ones have to admit: Belichick was given the best player of his generation and knew what to do with him. Belichick is alone at the top, and will remain there for however long he continues coaching.
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...t-coaches-2016

Buehler445 09-22-2016 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12442188)
Hard to see the Patriots winning this, to be honest. How they do much on offense with a third string, rookie, QB, and presumably without Gronk (I doubt he plays tonight, myself) is a real issue.

Belichick beats the bejesus out of his former assistants. You're fine.

He's going to have Asswiler pissing backwards by half time.

Buehler445 09-22-2016 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12442754)
Belichick beats the bejesus out of his former assistants. You're fine.

He's going to have Asswiler pissing backwards by half time.

Besides that, the Chiefs would have won without the fumbles with ****all for a pass rush and no Jamaal

Coochie liquor 09-22-2016 04:45 PM

I'm pulling for New England only because Texans just beat us so we've already lost the head to head. We gotta finish with a better record than them if it comes down to playoff birth now. We don't play NE this year and let's face it, they're probably the team to beat in the AFC. And they're surely gonna win their division so if it comes down to wild card we need Houston to lose.

Red Dawg 09-22-2016 04:47 PM

The media give Bill a pass on spy gate but other fans don't. Its bullshit that his cheating is celebrated but in other sports a coach would be hammered forever. He acts like an asshole to the media and gets pass on that as well. Anyone else gets blasted. Media are a bunch dumb shits and hypocrites like NE fans.

kccrow 09-22-2016 05:00 PM

If Gronk plays, which it looks like he will, those multiple TE sets are going to be used frequently by NE to negate that pass rush and help the running game. Brissett is good enough to throw all the underneath routes the Patriots run and hand the ball off. I think it'll be a good, close game, but the Texans still have to travel across the country and beat NE in their house. I have NE 24-20.

KCCHIEFS27 09-22-2016 05:08 PM

Vegas is LOVING that gronkowski is playing tonight. They needed more money on the Pats. Otherwise, this would have been a lopsided affair and they could have only rooted for the Pats.

Rasputin 09-22-2016 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12442186)
Every great coach, without fail, has had great talent, and more often than not, at the QB position. Do you downgrade Shula because he had Unitas, Griese, Csonka, Marino? Walsh because he had Montana? Paul Brown because he had Jim Brown and Otto Graham?

I think Belichick winning four Super Bowls, and going to six, with an ENTIRELY different team around Brady, is enough to prove his greatness. Sure, Brady is great, but is he really FIVE more SB appearances than Marino great, when Marino had Shula? TWO MORE SB WINS greater than Peyton?

It doesn't take away from Brady's greatness to recognize Belichick is great. It also doesn't take away from Belichick's greatness to recognize Brady is great.

I think your user name should be changed to Asterix*

Coochie liquor 09-22-2016 05:34 PM

I wonder what BB record is against RAC led defenses?

BWillie 09-22-2016 05:38 PM

I'm not sure but the Texans d-line really is something else.

srvy 09-22-2016 05:53 PM

Well another Thurs nite game and Neon Deon still has that stupid frozen on grin on his face. Its like he fell in some Joker slime and got the pepsodent smile.

As for the game who the hell knows im not sure of Asswiper but who the heck is this guy for NE. Knowing the Pats there will be some WR- TE seeking gyro inserted in the pigskin. So I guess Pats by 7 at home.

Chiefshrink 09-22-2016 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12442833)
Well another Thurs nite game and Neon Deon still has that stupid frozen on grin on his face. Its like he fell in some Joker slime and got the pepsodent smile.

Sanders and Irvin are just waaaay over the top obnoxious. :rolleyes:

Baby Lee 09-22-2016 06:12 PM

I'm going Houston. And I think us Chiefs fans get a little perspective on our performance last weekend.

dannybcaitlyn 09-22-2016 06:15 PM

Picking the Patriots. Hoody will have that team prepared no matter how many pieces are missing.

MahiMike 09-22-2016 06:17 PM

21-17 pats.

Belichik rolls out his FB as QB and they still win.

KCCHIEFS27 09-22-2016 06:37 PM

Looked like textbook defensive holding on that last pass play to Hogan.

the Talking Can 09-22-2016 06:38 PM

brissett looks like he pooped his pants

DaFace 09-22-2016 06:40 PM

I think if I'm belichick, I challenge that.

dannybcaitlyn 09-22-2016 06:41 PM

That looks short

RunKC 09-22-2016 06:42 PM

Texans are being pussies. You have Hopkins and Fuller. ****ing throw it

MMXcalibur 09-22-2016 06:42 PM

A+ job by Houston to not rush up and run a play, but to instead take a timeout that will allow Belichick to scope out the obvious: Miller didn't make it.

Baby Lee 09-22-2016 06:45 PM

I'm ready to boycott McGuyver on that tagline alone.

'Mac is back?

Go **** yourself CBS.

MMXcalibur 09-22-2016 06:45 PM

Holy shit, what a pussy call.

Kiimo 09-22-2016 06:48 PM

Did they really just give Lamar Miller 8 carries in the first drive and he only managed 27 yards?


Yikes. I have three shares of Lamar Miller.

PunkinDrublic 09-22-2016 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12442921)
Texans are being pussies. You have Hopkins and Fuller. ****ing throw it

Except Osweilers accuracy sucks.

MMXcalibur 09-22-2016 06:51 PM

Pass interference on an uncatchable ball?

Kman34 09-22-2016 06:59 PM

If that was a back shoulder throw.... it's a TD to Gronk

siberian khatru 09-22-2016 07:00 PM

NFL refereeing is just atrocious

Kman34 09-22-2016 07:01 PM

It's a fumble

mr. tegu 09-22-2016 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12442943)
NFL refereeing is just atrocious

I came here just to post the same thing. It wasn't even close so you have to let that play go and not blow it dead.

dannybcaitlyn 09-22-2016 07:02 PM

Should be fumble

New World Order 09-22-2016 07:04 PM

What was taking so long?

Stanley Nickels 09-22-2016 07:04 PM

I like and appreciate the replay system, but I can't understand why you can challenge a play where the outcome is dictated after the whistle-- eg, that fumble pileup occurred after at least one ref was blowing the whistle, and you can't be sure everyone was legitimately trying to get to the loose ball post-whistle.

DaFace 09-22-2016 07:05 PM

It's kind of crazy to see the Patriots running that kind of offense.

siberian khatru 09-22-2016 07:05 PM

Belichick could find a way to win with me at QB

the Talking Can 09-22-2016 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 12442914)
brissett looks like he pooped his pants

mea culpa.....he did what we couldn't

penbrook 09-22-2016 07:08 PM

Longest run by a Pats QB since 1978

Stanley Nickels 09-22-2016 07:08 PM

Jesus, CBS.. That's making diamonds out of shit right there. A useless tweet from four years ago...

KCCHIEFS27 09-22-2016 07:10 PM

Osweiler Sucks.

siberian khatru 09-22-2016 07:14 PM

Some 610 guy on Twitter: So, if Brissett wins this week, the Pats will have 2 drafted QBs win in 2 weeks yet #Chiefs can't get one for 35 years????

DaFace 09-22-2016 07:16 PM

It's just not fair that the Pats are basically good no matter what happens.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-22-2016 07:17 PM

New England is on a whole other level.

If the Chiefs make the playoffs and go back to Foxboro, it's a wrap.

penbrook 09-22-2016 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12442968)
It's just not fair that the Pats are basically good no matter what happens.

One word..... Belichick

KChiefs1 09-22-2016 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12442968)
It's just not fair that the Pats are basically good no matter what happens.



Disgusting




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RunKC 09-22-2016 07:21 PM

Hoodie is the GOAT

KChiefs1 09-22-2016 07:22 PM

76-0 when leading at halftime. Damn.


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pugsnotdrugs19 09-22-2016 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12442974)
One word..... Belichick

I won't dispute that he's the greatest coach of all time but still, how much can he know that other NFL coaches don't? Like any team, the players have to play eventually, and it's legitimately plug and play up there in New England.

Deberg_1990 09-22-2016 07:26 PM

Are we closer to Osweilers floor or ceiling ???

Coochie liquor 09-22-2016 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12442978)
I won't dispute that he's the greatest coach of all time but still, how much can he know that other NFL coaches don't? Like any team, the players have to play eventually, and it's legitimately plug and play up there in New England.

He's insanely good at putting players in a position to win. And taking away the opponents big threats offensively.

jimidollar 09-22-2016 07:27 PM

The Chiefs lost to these jokers?

Just Passin' By 09-22-2016 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12442978)
I won't dispute that he's the greatest coach of all time but still, how much can he know that other NFL coaches don't? Like any team, the players have to play eventually, and it's legitimately plug and play up there in New England.

This year's Patriots team is stacked, even with the missing players. If this (Brady out for 4, JAG out after 1.5) had happened in, say 2011, the outcome would likely have been different.

siberian khatru 09-22-2016 07:29 PM

NOW they challenge it, and more commercials. JFC.

tk13 09-22-2016 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12442978)
I won't dispute that he's the greatest coach of all time but still, how much can he know that other NFL coaches don't? Like any team, the players have to play eventually, and it's legitimately plug and play up there in New England.

How many good coaches are there really? There just aren't that many who can manage a franchise of professional athletes while having a common sense approach. Belichick makes mistakes but he's created a system where they not only play smarter than everyone else, but more importantly... everybody they bring in plays hard. You either fit in or you're out. That's probably the snowball effect of having success, but Belichick deserves credit for not screwing it up, or burning everyone out in the process.

Hammock Parties 09-22-2016 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimidollar (Post 12442986)
The Chiefs lost to these jokers?

The Texans look like garbage tonight. Certainly puts last week in a lesser perspective.

the Talking Can 09-22-2016 07:33 PM

o'brian is getting his ass-weiler handed to him

Deberg_1990 09-22-2016 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12442993)
The Texans look like garbage tonight. Certainly puts last week in a lesser perspective.

I imagine Thursday night games are extremely rough for the road team

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-22-2016 07:35 PM

Turnover differential. That is all.

Mr. Laz 09-22-2016 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12442968)
It's just not fair that the Pats are basically good no matter what happens.

Everyone says the only reason the Patriots win is because of Brady.


I guess not.


Andy Reid couldn't outcoached Belichek's jock

RunKC 09-22-2016 07:38 PM

The Texans look like us last Sunday. They've already made 3 big mistakes and it's not even halftime.

BucEyedPea 09-22-2016 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12443002)
Everyone says the only reason the Patriots win is because of Brady.


I guess not.


Andy Reid couldn't outcoached Belichek's jock

I thought Brady was just a system QB though.

KChiefs1 09-22-2016 07:40 PM

I wish we had played this Texan team.


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CupidStunt 09-22-2016 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12443014)
I wish we had played this Texan team.


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We did. We just made them look a lot better than they are.

MahiMike 09-22-2016 07:41 PM

Osweiler has a noodle arm.

And how did we lose to the Texans?


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