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Tombstone RJ 04-24-2005 08:27 PM
Derrick Johnson Is Not Derrick Thomas...
 
...but I have a feeling King Carl and Gunther took Derrick II to bring back the leadership that Thomas provided the chefs when the chefs actually played defense.

Sorry to bum you all out, but Derrick Johnson is not gonna stop teams from running all over the chef's defense.

The chef's have made some nice moves to improve their defense (hell, any moves at all would be nice) but the chefs still have a mediocre to bad defensive line. Hicks, Simms, Jelly, Browning, Allen & company are not going to stop the run any better than they did last year. Khari Long is a mystery right now, so I won't comment on him.

Bell is a good LB, if he can stay healthy, and that is a big if. So, the chefs will probably start DJ at LOLB, Bell at MLB and Barber at ROLB, which is respectable, IF Bell stays healthy and Johnson makes the transition to the speed and power of the NFL without losing a step. LB depth is a problem with the chefs. Grigsby will help provide depth, but he is an ILB. To me, this says that the chef's are still concerned about Bell's health.

Surtain will certainly improve the chefs secondary, but he is the only change that will immediately make an impact. Hodge will provide depth for the chefs, and that's nice. If Hodge steps in immediately, its more a reflection of how crappy the chefs secondary is, rather than how good Hodge is.

Congrats on taking Derrick the Second. Too bad he's gonna get run over by Mike Anderson.

Rain Man 04-24-2005 08:28 PM
Do you think he can tackle Maurice Clarett?

ChiefsCountry 04-24-2005 08:29 PM
Denver fans should not talk any smack about drafting this year. They did worse than we normally do.

Saulbadguy 04-24-2005 08:29 PM
Lotsa IFS and BUTS. Nice try.

cdcox 04-24-2005 08:29 PM
I hope this made you feel better after that abortion of a draft.

Tombstone RJ 04-24-2005 08:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
Denver fans should not talk any smack about drafting this year. They did worse than we normally do.
I agree, the Broncos draft is dissappointing.

Spicy McHaggis 04-24-2005 08:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
Grigsby will help provide depth, but he is an ILB. To me, this says that the chef's are still concerned about Bell's health.
To me this says the Chiefs saw a crazy white boy who would **** things up on special teams and took him with a 5th.

Bwana 04-24-2005 08:31 PM
As a donk fan, you should not be talking ANY smack. Need I remind you you ended up drafting a midget for a CB. ROFL

As far as Johnson, time will tell but I love the pick.

Tombstone RJ 04-24-2005 08:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rain Man
Do you think he can tackle Maurice Clarett?
Clarrett is an enigma right now. He could be great, he could be a bum. We'll just have to wait and see.

ChiefsCountry 04-24-2005 08:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
Grigsby will help provide depth, but he is an ILB. To me, this says that the chef's are still concerned about Bell's health.
No, that is more saying that Kawika Mitchell sucks.

beer bacon 04-24-2005 08:32 PM
I am glad we have Denver homers here to point out to us that our defense will still suck. I am so naive for thinking Surtain, Bell, Knight, DJ, Hall, and possibly at some point Grigsby will make an impact.

Once again, your completely unbiased opinion really cares a lot of weight around here. You should e-mail the Chiefs office to make sure they know our defense will still suck.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 08:32 PM
You are a ****ing idiot.

Let me explain why.

The Chiefs run defense ranked 12th in the NFL last year. That was with CRAPPY LINEBACKERS. Now we have good ones. We also picked up a huge upgrade at strong safety, further improving the run D.

The problem with the KC D was the PASS DEFENSE. Surtain and Knight plus the pass rush of Johnson, Hall and Bell will help to improve that.

In conclusion, **** off.

THANKYOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION!

Tombstone RJ 04-24-2005 08:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdcox
I hope this made you feel better after that abortion of a draft.
I don't know if it was a complete abortion, maybe a partial abortion... yikes...

Mr. Kotter 04-24-2005 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
...but I have a feeling King Carl and Gunther took Derrick II to bring back the leadership that Thomas provided the chefs when the chefs actually played defense.

Sorry to bumb you all out, but Derrick Johnson is not gonna stop teams from running all over the chef's defense.

The chef's have made some nice moves to improve their defense (hell, any moves at all would be nice) but the chefs still have a mediocre to bad defensive line. Hicks, Simms, Jelly, Browning, Allen & company are not going to stop the run any better than they did last year. Khari Long is a mystery right now, so I won't comment on him.

Bell is a good LB, if he can stay healthy, and that is a big if. So, the chefs will probably start DJ at LOLB, Bell at MLB and Barber at ROLB, which is respectable, IF Bell stays healthy and Johnson makes the transition to the speed and power of the NFL without losing a step. LB depth is a problem with the chefs. Grigsby will help provide depth, but he is an ILB. To me, this says that the chef's are still concerned about Bell's health.

Surtain will certainly improve the chefs secondary, but he is the only change that will immediately make an impact. Hodge will provide depth for the chefs, and that's nice. If Hodge steps in immediately, its more a reflection of how crappy the chefs secondary is, rather than how good Hodge is.

Congrats on taking Derrick the Second. Too bad he's gonna get run over by Mike Anderson.
Are you really as big of a moron as your post suggests. :rolleyes:

Mr. Kotter 04-24-2005 08:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
Clarrett is an enigma right now. He could be great, he could be a bumb. We'll just have to wait and see.
No, you are a "bumb"...

stevieray 04-24-2005 08:35 PM
Our dline?

what about yours? ROFL

don't even bring up Pryce, they were willing to let him go, understandable since he hasn't done squat since shanarat called him out a few years back..

|Zach| 04-24-2005 08:35 PM
I will take my draft pick not being Derrick Thomas over my draft pick not being good enough to start in the NFL.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 08:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter
Are you really as big of a moron as your post suggests. :rolleyes:
His facts are wrong, and his prediction is flat out stupid.

tk13 04-24-2005 08:37 PM
I don't want him to be Derrick Thomas, I want him to be Derrick Johnson. If he does, he'll be an impact player.

Skip Towne 04-24-2005 08:38 PM
I felt it necessary to neg rep this dude and I will continue until he learns how to spell Chiefs.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 08:38 PM
Tombstone RJ is like a bumb version of Taco John...

royr17 04-24-2005 08:39 PM
I wish Derrick Johnson would lay my dad the hell out

stevieray 04-24-2005 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
I wish Derrick Johnson would lay my dad the hell out
:shake:

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
I wish Derrick Johnson would lay my dad the hell out
That was out of left field.

Oh and Tombstone....DJ Williams is not Derrick Johnson. Nanny nanny boo boo.

Inspector 04-24-2005 08:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
...but I have a feeling King Carl and Gunther took Derrick II to bring back the leadership that Thomas provided the chefs when the chefs actually played defense.

Sorry to bumb you all out, but Derrick Johnson is not gonna stop teams from running all over the chef's defense.

The chef's have made some nice moves to improve their defense (hell, any moves at all would be nice) but the chefs still have a mediocre to bad defensive line. Hicks, Simms, Jelly, Browning, Allen & company are not going to stop the run any better than they did last year. Khari Long is a mystery right now, so I won't comment on him.

Bell is a good LB, if he can stay healthy, and that is a big if. So, the chefs will probably start DJ at LOLB, Bell at MLB and Barber at ROLB, which is respectable, IF Bell stays healthy and Johnson makes the transition to the speed and power of the NFL without losing a step. LB depth is a problem with the chefs. Grigsby will help provide depth, but he is an ILB. To me, this says that the chef's are still concerned about Bell's health.

Surtain will certainly improve the chefs secondary, but he is the only change that will immediately make an impact. Hodge will provide depth for the chefs, and that's nice. If Hodge steps in immediately, its more a reflection of how crappy the chefs secondary is, rather than how good Hodge is.

Congrats on taking Derrick the Second. Too bad he's gonna get run over by Mike Anderson.

Wow, uh thanks for your insights.

And thanks for being sorry about how you "bumb" us all out.

That sure is nice of you.

I need to call some of my friends who were thinking we drafted Derrick Thomas. They were beginning to think the dying in a car wreck thing was all a big hoax.

Of course when they find out that he really is dead they will probably get "bumbed" out.

Tombstone RJ 04-24-2005 08:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs
You are a ****ing idiot.

Let me explain why.

The Chiefs run defense ranked 12th in the NFL last year. That was with CRAPPY LINEBACKERS. Now we have good ones. We also picked up a huge upgrade at strong safety, further improving the run D.

The problem with the KC D was the PASS DEFENSE. Surtain and Knight plus the pass rush of Johnson, Hall and Bell will help to improve that.

In conclusion, **** off.

THANKYOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION!
Don't get mad at me because the chef's defense stunk last year. I know the Broncos ran the ball successfully against the chef's and I know the chef's lost more games than they won.

Coach 04-24-2005 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
I wish Derrick Johnson would lay my dad the hell out
[sarcasm] No! I thought Scanlan was gonna do that [/sarcasm] :D

Tombstone RJ 04-24-2005 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inspector
Wow, uh thanks for your insights.

And thanks for being sorry about how you "bumb" us all out.

That sure is nice of you.

I need to call some of my friends who were thinking we drafted Derrick Thomas. They were beginning to think the dying in a car wreck thing was all a big hoax.

Of course when they find out that he really is dead they will probably get "bumbed" out.
Sorry about my spelling, I meant "bum."

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 08:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
Don't get mad at me because the chef's defense stunk last year. I know the Broncos ran the ball successfully against the chef's and I know the chef's lost more games than they won.
And I know we kicked the shit out of you at Arrowhead.

ChiefsCountry 04-24-2005 08:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
Don't get mad at me because the chef's defense stunk last year. I know the Broncos ran the ball successfully against the chef's and I know the chef's lost more games than they won.
45-17

Mr. Kotter 04-24-2005 08:46 PM
Wonder if our own DC would think TombstoneBJ has a nice "bumb"?

:p

Bowser 04-24-2005 08:47 PM
Derrick Johnson is NOT Derrick Thomas?

What team would ever bring a player in, and proclaim him to be the heir of a player who is widely regarded to be one of the best all time at his position?

Oh. Never mind.

Tombstone RJ 04-24-2005 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter
Are you really as big of a moron as your post suggests. :rolleyes:
I'm probably a bigger moron than you think, after all, I'm trying to talk football here and its not going very well...

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter
Wonder if our own DC would think TombstoneBJ has a nice "bumb"?

:p
LMAO Kotter sometimes I really do love you. ROFL

More tea?

royr17 04-24-2005 08:47 PM
Sorry guys but im just pissed at my dad big time right now .......

Inspector 04-24-2005 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
Don't get mad at me because the chef's defense stunk last year. I know the Broncos ran the ball successfully against the chef's and I know the chef's lost more games than they won.
I think the salad bar guys are better than the chefs.

Most of the waitresses won't even date any of the chefs. But they sure love their cooking!

My favorite chef was that galloping gourmet guy who would get plastered on wine.

Why do the Bronco fans come here to talk about cooking? Aren't there some sites to discuss lasagna and such????

ZootedGranny 04-24-2005 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
I wish Derrick Johnson would lay my dad the hell out
Hahahaha, the imagery!

Logical 04-24-2005 08:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
I wish Derrick Johnson would lay my dad the hell out
Shame on you Roy, you have a great dad. You need to learn to appreciate him.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 08:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
Sorry guys but im just pissed at my dad big time right now .......
Take it out of this thread and create your own thread.

Inspector 04-24-2005 08:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
Sorry about my spelling, I meant "bum."
Oh...

That would be different.

Now it makes more sense. Thanks for the explanantion.

ChiefsCountry 04-24-2005 08:49 PM
Roy didn't you listen to Will Svitek?

Jenson71 04-24-2005 08:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
Sorry guys but im just pissed at my dad big time right now .......
And we should know about this right?

KevB 04-24-2005 08:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
Don't get mad at me because the chef's defense stunk last year. I know the Broncos ran the ball successfully against the chef's and I know the chef's lost more games than they won.
Here come the true colors. I realize you're coming over to our board, trying to make nice, pointing out your perception of our flaws hoping to make you feel better about your team.

I hate to bumb YOU out, but your defensive line filled with Browns rejects is worse than our line. Our upgrade at LB and in the secondary puts our defense on par with yours (if not better when it's said and done). And then should I move to the offensive side of the ball and special teams? Um, yeah, didn't think so. I read the Bronco boards, and everyone over there is bumbed out about the Chiefs off-season. We have every right to be ecstatic about the upgrades, but they haven't done it on the field yet. Your "insight" probably isn't going to enlighten a board full of fans who probably know a bit more about our team's strengths and weaknesses than you.

royr17 04-24-2005 08:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
Shame on you Roy, you have a great dad. You need to learn to appreciate him.
I know, but its hard too when he pissed you off. I have my license now and i still have to ask for permission to go somewhere.

Some teachers are wanting me to come back to school and visit them and he wont let me do that tuesday.

Merril Hoge 04-24-2005 08:51 PM
I agree. Derrick Thomas knew how to tackle.

royr17 04-24-2005 08:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs
Take it out of this thread and create your own thread.
STFU Loser !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Bad Guy 04-24-2005 08:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
Don't get mad at me because the chef's defense stunk last year. I know the Broncos ran the ball successfully against the chef's and I know the chef's lost more games than they won.
And I know that last year means dick now.

I know that the Chiefs didn't have 2 LBs the caliber of Bell and Johnson.

I know that the Chiefs didn't have Patrick Surtain last year.

And lastly, I know your football takes suck.

Tombstone RJ 04-24-2005 08:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs
And I know we kicked the shit out of you at Arrowhead.
The series was split last year. Both home teams won. Congrats.

royr17 04-24-2005 08:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Merril Hoge
I agree. Derrick Thomas knew how to tackle.
STFU Troll

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
I have my license now and i still have to ask for permission to go somewhere.
Who's car are you attempting to drive?

The Bad Guy 04-24-2005 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
Sorry guys but im just pissed at my dad big time right now .......
Why? Did he tell you he wouldn't allow your mail-order bride to live in the house?

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
The series was split last year. Both home teams won. Congrats.
Yes and we destroyed you. You narrowly edged out a win in a game that was close in the 4th quarter.

Tombstone RJ 04-24-2005 08:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inspector
Oh...

That would be different.

Now it makes more sense. Thanks for the explanantion.
No, thank you.

|Zach| 04-24-2005 08:55 PM
Sorry to bumb you out RJ but Jake Plummer IS NOT John Elway.

royr17 04-24-2005 08:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs
Who's car are you attempting to drive?
Mine, so dont worry about it.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 08:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
Mine, so dont worry about it.
You bought a car?

ChiefsCountry 04-24-2005 08:56 PM
Maurice Clarett is Not Clitoris or Terrell Davis

royr17 04-24-2005 08:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs
You bought a car?
Yes I have a car. No I didnt buy it, my sister gave it to me. But I swear im to the point where i cant even stand my father anymore. At one time he used to be the greatest thing in the world to me, now he is no where near that anymore. He has failed miserably.

royr17 04-24-2005 08:58 PM
Hell I'll probably get in trouble for this, but I dont care anymore.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 08:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
Yes I have a car. No I didnt buy it, my sister gave it to me. But I swear im to the point where i cant even stand my father anymore. At one time he used to be the greatest thing in the world to me, now he is no where near that anymore. He has failed miserably.
I guess you should move out. But that might mean no Chiefs game this year.

If your sister transferred the car's ownership papers to you, take it out for a spin. I see nothing stopping you, unless in fact you do not actually own this vehicle.

Do you have insurance?

Reaper16 04-24-2005 09:00 PM
Furthermore, you might as well have drafted Verne Troyer in the 2nd round. Not only was that guy a reach, but he's tiny. What, with him and Quinten Griffin, your Donks might have the shortest team in the league.

Actually, the AFC West might be the shortest divison, with Sproles and McCleon.

Logical 04-24-2005 09:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
Yes I have a car. No I didnt buy it, my sister gave it to me. But I swear im to the point where i cant even stand my father anymore. At one time he used to be the greatest thing in the world to me, now he is no where near that anymore. He has failed miserably.
Stop pouting, it is pathetic.

Jenson71 04-24-2005 09:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
Yes I have a car. No I didnt buy it, my sister gave it to me. But I swear im to the point where i cant even stand my father anymore. At one time he used to be the greatest thing in the world to me, now he is no where near that anymore. He has failed miserably.
Yeah, 15 years from now you'll realize that he was the greatest thing in the world, and he'll mean everything to you.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 09:03 PM
Roy, I'm betting you don't have insurance, or you may be on your father's insurance. In that case, I'd say your SOL.

Nice car, BTW.

http://www.asteroidbooty.com/images/child_car.jpg

Tombstone RJ 04-24-2005 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs
Yes and we destroyed you. You narrowly edged out a win in a game that was close in the 4th quarter.
34-24 a win is a win. Griffin rushed 23 times for 156 yards, a 6.8 ypc.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
34-24 a win is a win. Griffin rushed 23 times for 156 yards, a 6.8 ypc.
Yeah, it was the highlight of his career.

Coach 04-24-2005 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
Stop pouting, it is pathetic.
III, listen to Vlad. He's right. It's pathetic. There's no reason whatsoever that you should hate your dad, considering the fact that him and your mother have brought you to this world and to be part of his family. There were numberous of times where I got pissed off at my dad for several reasons, but I don't hate him. No matter how old you are, as long as your dad is still around, you will have no choice (other than that you run away, which I wouldn't advise it) but to respect him and his wishes, no matter what, even if you disagree.

Come on man, deal with it.

Logical 04-24-2005 09:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs
Roy, I'm betting you don't have insurance, or you may be on your father's insurance. In that case, I'd say your SOL.

Nice car, BTW.

http://www.asteroidbooty.com/images/child_car.jpg
ROFL

Bwana 04-24-2005 09:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
34-24 a win is a win. Griffin rushed 23 times for 156 yards, a 6.8 ypc.
You think he will put up those numbers this year when we play you?

Tombstone RJ 04-24-2005 09:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevB
Here come the true colors. I realize you're coming over to our board, trying to make nice, pointing out your perception of our flaws hoping to make you feel better about your team.

I hate to bumb YOU out, but your defensive line filled with Browns rejects is worse than our line. Our upgrade at LB and in the secondary puts our defense on par with yours (if not better when it's said and done). And then should I move to the offensive side of the ball and special teams? Um, yeah, didn't think so. I read the Bronco boards, and everyone over there is bumbed out about the Chiefs off-season. We have every right to be ecstatic about the upgrades, but they haven't done it on the field yet. Your "insight" probably isn't going to enlighten a board full of fans who probably know a bit more about our team's strengths and weaknesses than you.
What was KC's defensive ranking last year? What was the Broncos?

|Zach| 04-24-2005 09:07 PM
My dad says my eyes are brown because I am full of shit.

Heh.

I love that guy.

Tombstone RJ 04-24-2005 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bwana
You think he will put up those numbers this year when we play you?
I don't even know if Q will make the team this year.

Gav Daddy 04-24-2005 09:07 PM
hmmmm.....
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ
...but I have a feeling King Carl and Gunther took Derrick II to bring back the leadership that Thomas provided the chefs when the chefs actually played defense.

Sorry to bum you all out, but Derrick Johnson is not gonna stop teams from running all over the chef's defense.

The chef's have made some nice moves to improve their defense (hell, any moves at all would be nice) but the chefs still have a mediocre to bad defensive line. Hicks, Simms, Jelly, Browning, Allen & company are not going to stop the run any better than they did last year. Khari Long is a mystery right now, so I won't comment on him.

Bell is a good LB, if he can stay healthy, and that is a big if. So, the chefs will probably start DJ at LOLB, Bell at MLB and Barber at ROLB, which is respectable, IF Bell stays healthy and Johnson makes the transition to the speed and power of the NFL without losing a step. LB depth is a problem with the chefs. Grigsby will help provide depth, but he is an ILB. To me, this says that the chef's are still concerned about Bell's health.

Surtain will certainly improve the chefs secondary, but he is the only change that will immediately make an impact. Hodge will provide depth for the chefs, and that's nice. If Hodge steps in immediately, its more a reflection of how crappy the chefs secondary is, rather than how good Hodge is.

Congrats on taking Derrick the Second. Too bad he's gonna get run over by Mike Anderson.
what dj is, is the next donnie edwards.......only ahead of the curve.

this time they see his potential and value.

|Zach| 04-24-2005 09:08 PM
If I was a Broncos fan I would be talking about last year non stop as well. I would shudder thinking about this upcoming season.

stevieray 04-24-2005 09:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Merril Hoge
I agree. Derrick Thomas knew how to tackle.
ROFL

I feel honored that Merril wants to hang with the planet...talk about being bored.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 09:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZachKC
My dad says me eyes are brown because I am full of shit.
Are you Irish?

Hammock Parties 04-24-2005 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gav Daddy
what dj is, is the next donnie edwards.......only ahead of the curve.

this time they see his potential and value.
Donnie was slight. DJ is built.

Tombstone RJ 04-24-2005 09:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZachKC
Sorry to bumb you out RJ but Jake Plummer IS NOT John Elway.
That is painfully obvious.

Skip Towne 04-24-2005 09:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17
Hell I'll probably get in trouble for this, but I dont care anymore.
You are being very disrespectful to a dad that is very good to you. And on the internet to boot. Roy should kick your ass.

|Zach| 04-24-2005 09:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs
Are you Irish?
Nah, just a guy that types way to fast. ROFL


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