Help building my first gaming rig
The PC vs Console thread really got me going (although, I've been wanting to do this for some time) I want to build a nice gaming rig that I can use to play some PC exclusives on as well as not having to worry about it being slow as hell compared to my POS laptop.
What I want - 1. Must be able to run graphics at med/high settings. (770 card?) 2. I'd like to have good storage for movies/music (I don't know the advantages/differences of an SSD/HDD. 3. I'd like to have an HDMI port so I can move it into my living room on the big screen. 4. I do need a monitor. Undecided whether or not I want to run a dual/tri monitor setup yet. 5. I still burn CD's and Dvds. Will need a drive that supports both. 6. 8 GB of Ram at least with options to upgrade to 16gb in the future. To sum It up I want a Rig that can do it all with little to no issues speed wise. I have a budget of around $1000, which is pretty flexible. I also like pretty things. So I'm not afraid to spend a little more on a nicer case. Am a big fan of the Cooler Master Stryker case, I love the cases with the windows in the side with LEDS. If anybody would like to help me I would greatly appreciate it. I just want to be apart of the PC master race. EDIT: This is build I am going with, unless I find good deals on better components. PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/287w2 Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/287w2/by_merchant/ Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/287w2/benchmarks/ CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ SuperBiiz) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($174.98 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($86.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ OutletPC) Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($312.99 @ B&H) Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg) Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon) Total: $1268.85 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-26 20:46 EST-0500) |
770 dominates, you will be good with that card for a good while, and you can always add another later in SLI.
SSD is not good for storage. IT is basically an instant read hard drive. I run an SSD for my operating system/games that need performance, and all my other stuff goes on the HDD, If it is in your budget, get both. Any modern graphics card has HDMI output, including the 770. Monitor you cant go wrong with many different ones. A decent 60hz monitor can be had cheaply. You can get a cd/dvd rom burner for about 25 bucks that will suit you perfectly fine. Standard drive for systems, unless you want bluray. go 16b now, it wont cost much more. Remember to pick the right motherboard. You can easily do this for a thousand. For cases i am a minamilist, but if you like pretty ones like at NZXT. They make lots of good performance yet still pretty cases for budget minded builds. Let me see if i can build you a system~ |
770 on a $1k budget is likely not going to happen without some serious sales of like $200.
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here ya are : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...nc&output=html
Check out the "Excellent Best Overall" build. $960 (probably much cheaper now as the doc was updated a while ago) http://i.imgur.com/IA7iMrQ.png |
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OK so this is a pretty damn beastly system.. There is LOTS of tweaking that can be done to this.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27Mja Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27Mja/by_merchant/ Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27Mja/benchmarks/ CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg) Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US) Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($312.99 @ B&H) Case: NZXT NZXT H230 White ATX Mid Tower ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.97 @ OutletPC) Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US) Monitor: BenQ GW2255 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($114.99 @ NCIX US) Total: $1067.44 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-24 15:04 EST-0500) I had to take the SSD out to get it down, and keep the 770. Though, SSD is a luxury ( a nice one :P) |
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And when I say flexible, I'm taking $1000-$1300 |
As for the spreadsheet builds, they dont include a monitor or an OS. Though there is nothing wrong with either of these builds, as they are roughly 2.5x as powerful as the next gen console.
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Nothing wrong with an Asus z77 board though, would be better than what I picked you. It will allow you SLI and big overclocking headroom. If your not ocing, no reason to go with a motherboard like that. And yea, there are TONS of cases out there, and in that price range too, that's all personal preference. |
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I think I am leaning towards this case, I really like how it looks as well as easy access to the inside and the good slots for cable management http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811139013 I also like the easability of mounting fans on the case for cooling the gpu |
Corsair makes great cases I kind of wish I got the Corsair 900 instead of the coolermaster HAF X I went with.
If you dont need ocing, then that's a lot of money for a motherboard. Though, if you want a more powerful motherboard I would look at the ASrock extreme 4. Very good SLI board and good price. |
My asrock extreme6 was able to achieve higher overclocks in most situations than the Sabertooth.
Also, the sabertooth boards have very high defect rates. |
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In the grand scheme of things, the motherboard is pretty overrated when it comes to a gaming rig, especially if you aren't going to OC, IMO.
No purpose is spending a ridiculous amount of money on a very high end quad sli board when you'll never use it anywhere near its intended use. |
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Also, if you dont mind doing a little digging, waiting, and wheeling and dealing you can score some lightly used stuff here http://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/ |
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Without OC, you can feel comfortable buying a safe, quality, lower priced mobo without all the OC/4xsli/etc features. |
If you're in KC, make sure and check out Micro Center. Their in-store prices are tough to beat.
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This is what I've got
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27OKX PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27OKX Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27OKX/by_merchant/ Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27OKX/benchmarks/ CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg) Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US) Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($312.99 @ B&H) Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($20.10 @ B&H) Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($107.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.97 @ OutletPC) Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US) Monitor: BenQ GW2255 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($114.99 @ NCIX US) Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow 2013 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($84.99 @ Amazon) Total: $1280.96 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-24 16:09 EST-0500) |
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Should I need to add a couple of the fans for the case to help cool the GPU? Or are the supplied fans going to be enough?
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You need to upgrade the fan.
I'd also add a ssd |
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I second the SSD, but your talking about spending more and more now. |
I might add an SSD later.
I forgot a CPU cooler, then also want to add 2 fans for the GPU |
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You want the ssd for your OS. |
the CPU will come with a stock cooler. without OC i didnt add it becuase i was trying to fit your budget.
You can always add cooler, ssd, 2nd graphics etc when you feel the need. |
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27PM3 Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27PM3/by_merchant/ Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27PM3/benchmarks/ CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg) Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ SuperBiiz) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US) Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($312.99 @ B&H) Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($20.10 @ B&H) Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($107.98 @ Newegg) Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.97 @ OutletPC) Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US) Monitor: BenQ GW2255 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($114.99 @ NCIX US) Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow 2013 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($84.99 @ Amazon) Total: $1458.92 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-24 16:31 EST-0500) |
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Personally, I would look for at least a 80+ bronze PSU.
And if you ever intend on adding a 2nd card down the line I would get at least a 750 or even 850 PSU. No point in trying to save $30 now and then spend $100 extra later. |
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No better one. |
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SSD is a luxury item. It's your money and computer but I'd drop the SSD and get it later, reduce the ram because because 16GB is pretty overkill for gaming, especially when you are only buying 2 sticks with an option to upgrade to 32GB (which will never be needed for the life of this computer for gaming), and take the money saved to get a better PSU. |
Gotcha. I'll take all of that into consideration. I have about another month before I'm able to do this, so lots of tweaking and changes can happen between now and then.
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A $1K budget with Black Friday and Cyber Monday looming. You can get whatever you want. Don't listen to these people.
Actually dude you want waaay too much. Get a cheaper GPU, a 3rd gen i7 would be less than a 4th gen i5. You really need to think cheaper and upgrade later. You can get an HD Radeon 7770 for $100 which is fine. 16 GB is way too much. 8 is adequate. You're aiming too high. Leave yourself room in the budget. |
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You can cut that price down dramatically. 16 gigs of ram is just overkill right now, 8 should be plenty. Same thing with the video card. Go with a GTX660, which should be plenty but half the price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...D=3938566&SID= You're spending a ridiculous amount on case fans. As for the Harddrive, why not a hybrid SSHD? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...81&ignorebbr=1 I'd chop that build to under 1k and save some money for some upgrades down the road instead. |
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Suggesting a 3rd gen i7 is lol and your post wasn't even up when I started writing that one.
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Why in the world are 4th gen all in ones more if the processors themselves cost less than the 3rd gen? |
I am gathering that an I5 is better than the TOTL AMD chips.
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120 or 240 gig SSD main OS drive with a large platter strorage drive is the way to go for speed/storage/cost imo
make sure you get a good big case so that you can just keep replacing/upgrading etc into the future. |
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made some revisions upon reading some of your feedback. would love your opinions
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27Vfe Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27Vfe/by_merchant/ Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27Vfe/benchmarks/ CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($225.99 @ NCIX US) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($97.95 @ Amazon) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 3GB Video Card ($223.98 @ Newegg) Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($20.10 @ B&H) Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg) Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($71.24 @ Amazon) Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US) Monitor: Gateway FHX2303LAbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($99.99 @ Amazon) Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow 2013 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($84.99 @ Amazon) Total: $1253.16 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-24 18:56 EST-0500) |
got a bigger monitor for around $25 cheaper than the other one
downgraded the card (hopefully i dont see much dropoff?) bigger power supply added the hybrid SSD/HDD |
Get low profile RAM.
That CPU cooler will prevent you from putting in those tall vengeance memory sticks. |
I didnt mean to add the vengeance sticks on there, i had another one hilighted and accidentally put the corsair ones in. the ones i meant to add are much smaller
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The difference in a 660 and a 770 is pretty massive TBH.
Dual 660s might be as fast as a 770. You picked a 3gb model, and the 2gb models are going for 170 now. Also, you can save a ton of money on that keyboard. I game hard on a 5 dollar walmart keyboard :/ I saw the gateway available, but the benQ is a better monitor. So, still a powerful build, but now your missing an SSD and half your GPU power. |
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Yeah the video card is definitely still up in the air. I can do the 770 just fine but I was just taking some recommendations. I may go back to it nonetheless. The keyboard, I have a wireless Logitech mouse and keyboard, but frankly I've always wanted one of these keyboards and I just wanted to splurge and get it. Monitor the same deal, I will keep looking for better deals, I'm going to Micro Center tomorrow to see what deals they have. |
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What would you normally just put on the SSD? The OS and what else? Just bigger program files that you don't want on your HDD, leaving your HDD clean for games/music/movies?
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I have a 1tb external so I'm fine leaving that plugged in with my music on it
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I think SSD are overrated. If it's only used for a faster boot up that's reeruned for over 100 large.
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So I guess my main question now is my gpu. Do I splurge and get the 770? Or keep lookin
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The hybrid drive WILL work in this way somewhat, but it will only keep cached copy of certain 'most used' data on the SSD portion. |
I really like the aspect. One of the biggest issues I have personally is waiting for ****ing ever for stuff to load. Absolutely hate it. If I have to spend 1500 to beast everything I will. I'm all in at this point! I may eventually want to add something where I can watch tv on one screen and play d3 on the other
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If i was building a system today I would go with the 770 for the sole fact that JUST by adding another 770 in a couple of years, you can extend the useful life of the system quite a bit.
Now, or at that time, that will require a 7-800w PSU, I think I payed 60 bucks for my 850w corsair PSU. |
I've been leaning towards the 770 from the beginning. I'm on my phone right now so I can't check what power supply I'd need down the line if I added another 770
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Okay when I get home ill update the power supply because I will wanna upgrade in the future. Ill also re add the 770. Then ill need to find different low profile memory and rethink my monitor and I think ill be good to go?
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ANother suggestion. You can buy a corsair h60 water cooler for the same price as that air cooler. Silent and as same or better than the 212. Then you wont have to worry about low profile ram.
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I'd not thought of going that route, is it very difficult to do?
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I also would choose a good price/performance selection over overshooting your range and doing an SLI later. |
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550W for sli 770? Don't think so. |
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And yes, the h60 hooks up just like a regular cooler., but its got lines that run to a radaitor that you mount on the case, then mount fan on the other side. http://www.enthusiastreviews.com/wp-...v2-600x340.jpg |
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The EVO will work just as good for $20+ less. None of those prefilled water coolers are particularly good for how much they cost. |
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This is the biggest problem about building a rig. There is no perfect way. Hell there is no right way. I say if it plays what you want and fits your budget, go for it. You can spend weeks doing this over and over again.
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Yeah I think i might just keep it cheaper and simple for now and keep the fan. any recommendations for 8gb of low profile ram?
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added http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair...gx3m1a1600c10b
its still corsair vengeance. and its 1x8gb stick, its low profile and cheaper than 2x4gbs took off the keyboard to keep cost lower also, can deal with my logitech for the time being |
I'm a little hesitant on the AsRock MOBO after reading so many reviews of people getting theirs and finding out either the pins in the RAM slots are bent, or the MOBO itself was just DOA out of the box
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Here is the November catalogue there. http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/...7#/14b821a7/43 I believe they price match places like newegg as well. |
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I think Im going to go in there after work tomorrow and Have them price me out everything, and then put about half of it on my Visa, cant pass up saving almost $200. I used to live right by Micro Center, I just never went in.
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Their mobo's seem slim with a lot of flex and then they use an irregular size so the right side of the mobo gets stressed when plugging in the 24 pin. |
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So what would someone suggest as far as an every day run of the mill PC that can also run most if not all games fairly decently?
Don't need anything extravagant...just looking for something that I can game with or my wife can use, something like that. |
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