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TEX 11-02-2012 03:16 PM

Who is WORSE at Their Job - Pioli, Crennel, Daboll, or Cassel?
 
Man, what a list...You'd be pressed to find that much FAIL in one place anywhere outside of congress. My vote goes to Pioli as being "THE WORST of the worst" because without him, none of the others would be around.

Shag 11-02-2012 03:17 PM

Yes.

In58men 11-02-2012 03:17 PM

Trick question

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-02-2012 03:17 PM

All

L.A. Chieffan 11-02-2012 03:17 PM

Pioli has literally not done one positive thing for this franchise. Not one.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-02-2012 03:19 PM

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FlaChief58 11-02-2012 03:19 PM

All of the above

listopencil 11-02-2012 03:20 PM

Pioli/Cassel is a chicken-and-the-egg question.

Hammock Parties 11-02-2012 03:20 PM

Well, duh.

Everyone sucks, and someone hired the suck.

Strongside 11-02-2012 03:21 PM

This forum has gone to shit.

TEX 11-02-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9078056)

But this ALMOST worked! 3 Chief players couldn't even land on the ball but the ONE Charger player did.

TEX 11-02-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9078063)
This forum has gone to shit.

We still have a ways to go to catch up with the team...

007 11-02-2012 03:27 PM

what a stupid poll.

Deberg_1990 11-02-2012 03:30 PM

All of the above

listopencil 11-02-2012 03:35 PM

I would have to go with Piolio because he has the most power in the organization. I assume that Piolio made the call on naming Crennel the HC, Daboll the OC and Mark Asshole the QB.

BigMeatballDave 11-02-2012 03:36 PM

They all suck equally.

L.A. Chieffan 11-02-2012 03:38 PM

Well, Wilbon just said this is one of the worst teams ever and Kornheiser said EVERYBODY is going to get fired at the end of the season.

GOOD TIMES

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whoman69 11-02-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shag (Post 9078047)
Yes.

Ditto

HemiEd 11-02-2012 03:57 PM

Where is the all of the above option? Poll fail.


I have been driving all day and fully expected to log on here to a 1000 post thread about the firings at 1 Arrowhead drive.

whoman69 11-02-2012 03:58 PM

If I had to vote for one to suck above all others it would probably be Daboll. I'll preface that by saying its near impossible to gameplan with Matt Cassel as QB when you have to toss half the playbook down the toilet.

FAX 11-02-2012 03:59 PM

Let's see ... gagging on stroganoff vomit or zest peeler jammed all the way up ass?

I'll need to think about that ...

FAX

Mr. Laz 11-02-2012 04:02 PM

well ... if you ignore the fact that Pioli hired them


Crennel is clearly the suckiest


1. i think Crennel is telling Daboll to be so conservative(daboll looks pissed)
2. Pioli has acquired talent for the team he just can't hire a decent HC also the cassel issue.

Ranking them suckiest 1st

1. Crennel
2. Daboll
3. Pioli

MTG#10 11-02-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9078096)

ROFL what was that on?

BoneKrusher 11-02-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9078063)
This forum has gone to shit.

the Chiefs could have something to do with that.

Ace Gunner 11-02-2012 04:10 PM

it's on the receivers. not one of them has sucker punched cassel. I was really disappointed Baldwin hasn't done it.

Kclee 11-02-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9078092)
I would have to go with Piolio because he has the most power in the organization. I assume that Piolio made the call on naming Crennel the HC, Daboll the OC and Mark Asshole the QB.

I went with Cassell. If Cassell was really good, we'd be winning. So Pioli would look smart for trading for him. RAC/Daboll would be considered good coaches. IMO, if we would have gotten Manning this offseason, we'd be winning. Arrowhead would probably be sold out every game, and people obviously wouldn't be calling for the other 3 to be fired. Winning=smart/good.

Munson 11-02-2012 04:21 PM

They're all epic failures at what they do. But Pioli is responsible for all of them being here, so I'll give him the dubious honor of being the worst.

CoMoChief 11-02-2012 04:25 PM

IMO they're all cut from the same bullshit cloth.

saphojunkie 11-02-2012 04:37 PM

No way it is anybody but Cassel.

Because if Cassel were amazing, then none of the others would be in this poll.

bevischief 11-02-2012 05:16 PM

Where is the they all suck option?

-King- 11-02-2012 05:33 PM

Honestly... Crennel

As bad as Pioli has been, there is no excuse for getting blown out literally every week. That's something that doesn't even happen to the shittiest of coaches. But Crennel manages to do it.

Close second: Pioli

Obvious reasons

3rd: Cassel

OMAHA OMAHA

Cannibal 11-02-2012 05:51 PM

It's Crennel by a mile. Pioli blows and he sucks at his job, but Crennel has now proven he really has no friggen idea what the **** he's doing.

Cannibal 11-02-2012 05:53 PM

His performance as head coach is making me question his past reputation and competence as a DC as well.

DJ's left nut 11-02-2012 05:54 PM

Man, that's tight.

To me, if I'm assigning them all grades from 1-100, I think I give the lowest score to Daboll.

Pioli has at least managed to make his boss money. As a football personnel person, he's complete trash. As a General Manager, he has managed to not lose money for his boss. By God he's tried with the Cassel and Jackson deals, but he still hasn't pulled it off. Pioli gets a 20/100.

Crennel...!@#$ man, I don't know how I can give him very many points but what he has at least avoided is an outright mutiny. The guys don't play hard for him, but they don't appear to hate him either. And at times the defensive side of the ball does look halfway decent (afterall, yesterday the D still only gave up 17 points). I give Crennel a 25. He gets a slightly higher score than Pioli just because of the fact that Pioli loses a half point for every point Crennel loses by virtue of voluntarily employing him.

Cassel. I can't even gear myself up to talk about him. Sometimes he runs well and he's not always complete trash when the game is out of hand. He gets a 30/100.

Daboll...these guys are just a complete waste on offense. Even if Cassel were decent, these schemes are predictable as hell and there aren't adjustments made ever. He doesn't work to anyone's strengths and hasn't shown an ability to even determine what those might be. Moreover, he's a prick. Everyone seems to hate this asshole. Nobody wants to work with him and he's awful at the side of the ball he's responsible for. As near as I can tell there is absolutely nothing redeeming about Brian Daboll. He gets a 5/100 because he's shown up to each game by kickoff. That's all I can come up with.

Daboll wins this one. In a vacuum, he's worse at his job than anyone else here is at theirs. He simply does nothing well. Ever.

hometeam 11-02-2012 05:55 PM

Its got to be Daboll. There is plenty of suck to go around but honestly, this guy is trying his best, has no image to live up too, and still cant make a ****ing score.

Have fun sitting at home on the couch next season Daboll. The rest of these screw ups will at least have a job somewhere.

FAX 11-02-2012 06:01 PM

ROFL

Oh, how I long for the days when Priest was running the stretch behind Roaf and Wiegmann and our kidney. Nobody could keep us out of the endzone.

Nowadays, it's which key employee sucks more ... dear God, please make it stop.

FAX

Tribal Warfare 11-02-2012 06:04 PM

Pioli- the collective fail of the group is on him because he hired these assholes

DJ's left nut 11-02-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9078363)
ROFL

Oh, how I long for the days when Priest was running the stretch behind Roaf and Wiegmann and our kidney. Nobody could keep us out of the endzone.

Nowadays, it's which key employee sucks more ... dear God, please make it stop.

FAX

The worst part is that really legitimate arguments can be made for all 4 of them.

BlackHelicopters 11-02-2012 06:47 PM

Clark?

el borracho 11-02-2012 08:25 PM

Worst of the bunch has to be Crennel; Pioli and Cassel were both in their respective positions last year and the results with different coaches were nowhere near this bad.

2nd worst has to be Daboll. Really, one shouldn't have to say anything other than "Ravens game plan" to prove this point. It might also be worth mentioning that all NFL teams (including the Chiefs) have talented players, yet this clown can't get us in the end zone.

3rd worst (and he is not far at all behind Daboll): Cassel. You could write volumes about this guy's deficiencies and string together hours of video illustrating his incredible failures.

Then there is Pioli who appears completely ignorant of the keys to a football dynasty- a quarterback and a head coach. Pioli's allegiance to Cassel is a maddening enigma and certainly worthy of ridicule and scorn but Crennel is easily Pioli's worst mistake. Pioli should have been fired the instant he suggested Crennel as a long-term solution at head coach.

RJ 11-02-2012 08:30 PM

That's a great question. I went with Daboll as he seems to me to be the one most completely overmatched by the tasks he faces. But then Pioli hired him. And Romeo is the head coach. And Cassell.....well, they were all good choices.

Dr. Johnny Fever 11-02-2012 08:32 PM

Cassel is touched and encouraged by our support here.

Dave Lane 11-02-2012 08:48 PM

Not voting there is no all of the above option

Dave Lane 11-02-2012 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 9078345)
It's Crennel by a mile. Pioli blows and he sucks at his job, but Crennel has now proven he really has no friggen idea what the **** he's doing.

Total agreement. But its splitting hairs between this group, they are all so deserving.

AussieChiefsFan 11-02-2012 09:09 PM

I went with Crennel, because of just how badly coached this team is right now. But Pioli isnt too far behind.

listopencil 11-02-2012 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random & Clever (Post 9078167)
I went with Cassell. If Cassell was really good, we'd be winning. So Pioli would look smart for trading for him. RAC/Daboll would be considered good coaches. IMO, if we would have gotten Manning this offseason, we'd be winning. Arrowhead would probably be sold out every game, and people obviously wouldn't be calling for the other 3 to be fired. Winning=smart/good.

It's the whole "chicken-and-the-egg" thing. That's what makes it a hard question with no definitive right answer. A lot of this stuff is luck. The Pats got Brady. We dug up Davis. The Raiders grabbed Purple Drank and the Chargers got Ryan Leaf. I don't know. I think Piolio trying to recreate the Pats with Mark Asshole, Crennel and Daboll is the problem.

J Diddy 11-02-2012 10:58 PM

Pioli's fail is responsible for the other three's fail. Pioli is the tree trunk, the others are the branches and all their failures are the twigs.

All those twigs are dependent upon the branch, which is dependent upon the base.

Cut off a branch and the tree lives. Cut off two branches and the tree lives. Cut off three branches and the tree lives. Cut down the trunk and it all dies.

GordonGekko 11-02-2012 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9078050)
Pioli has literally not done one positive thing for this franchise. Not one.

Justin Houston...

Outside of that zip

ILChief 11-03-2012 06:49 AM

I went with Cassel because if he was awesome the other three would all look a lot better. That said they all need to go

007 11-03-2012 06:58 AM

One ring to rule them all. Throw it down the volcano and all the problems go away.

Rasputin 11-03-2012 07:47 AM

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Ooh I know. How about they all suck at there job =

Chiefnj2 11-03-2012 07:56 AM

Worst to best
1. Pioli- overall talent and leadership of players is lacking. Coaching choices have been horrible.

The rest doesn't matter and is a reflection of 1.

KC_Lee 11-03-2012 08:01 AM

I am suprised that a black hole did not get created when this poll was created. That so much suck that not even light can escape.

Red Beans 11-03-2012 08:23 AM

This poll is like asking which turd stinks the worst... The truth is, they all ****ing stink, and they all deserve to be flushed. Not a single turd should linger.

lcarus 11-03-2012 08:25 AM

Crennel sucks ass at coaching on Sundays. Daboll sucks ass at coordinating an offense. Matt Cassel sucks at passing the football.

PIOLI on the other hand, sucks ass at so many different things it's mind boggling.

Chief Roundup 11-03-2012 09:50 AM

geez we only get 1 vote on that list

Sure-Oz 11-03-2012 09:54 AM

Every single one of them shouldnt be on the team next year

Bwana 11-03-2012 09:59 AM

All those hacks on the list are complete fail, but I had to go with chrome dome. If he gets fired, the rest are gone.

RedandGold 11-03-2012 11:54 AM

It has to be Pioli. Crennel and Daboll had already proven themselves to be failures at HC and OC, and he hired them in the same roles anyway.

Without Pioli, we wouldn't have Cassel either, but in comparison, he's definitely the least of the evils.

milkman 11-04-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9078194)
No way it is anybody but Cassel.

Because if Cassel were amazing, then none of the others would be in this poll.

The problem in this line of thought is that Pioli had 4 years to evaluate Cassel up close and personal, and he still came to teh conclusion that Cassel was a franchise QB.

4 years of evaluation on a single player to reach the wrong conclusion.

That is a level of suck that can not be matched.

okcchief 11-04-2012 11:14 AM

Pioli is responsible for all of it. You get rid of him and the rest will be gone.

TEX 11-04-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9078351)
Man, that's tight.

To me, if I'm assigning them all grades from 1-100, I think I give the lowest score to Daboll.

Pioli has at least managed to make his boss money. As a football personnel person, he's complete trash. As a General Manager, he has managed to not lose money for his boss. By God he's tried with the Cassel and Jackson deals, but he still hasn't pulled it off. Pioli gets a 20/100.

Crennel...!@#$ man, I don't know how I can give him very many points but what he has at least avoided is an outright mutiny. The guys don't play hard for him, but they don't appear to hate him either. And at times the defensive side of the ball does look halfway decent (afterall, yesterday the D still only gave up 17 points). I give Crennel a 25. He gets a slightly higher score than Pioli just because of the fact that Pioli loses a half point for every point Crennel loses by virtue of voluntarily employing him.

Cassel. I can't even gear myself up to talk about him. Sometimes he runs well and he's not always complete trash when the game is out of hand. He gets a 30/100.

Daboll...these guys are just a complete waste on offense. Even if Cassel were decent, these schemes are predictable as hell and there aren't adjustments made ever. He doesn't work to anyone's strengths and hasn't shown an ability to even determine what those might be. Moreover, he's a prick. Everyone seems to hate this asshole. Nobody wants to work with him and he's awful at the side of the ball he's responsible for. As near as I can tell there is absolutely nothing redeeming about Brian Daboll. He gets a 5/100 because he's shown up to each game by kickoff. That's all I can come up with.

Daboll wins this one. In a vacuum, he's worse at his job than anyone else here is at theirs. He simply does nothing well. Ever.

Interesting. I'd change my vote to Daboll after readiing your post.

rabblerouser 11-04-2012 01:07 PM

Chunt??

GloryDayz 11-04-2012 03:27 PM

Hold on, I'm still trying to figure out a tie-breaker... F***!!!!!!!!!

GloryDayz 11-04-2012 03:28 PM

Still working on it!!!!!!!

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GloryDayz 11-04-2012 03:29 PM

Dammit, I think the clock is slow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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GloryDayz 11-04-2012 03:31 PM

Got it.... I'm going with:

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Sweet Daddy Hate 11-04-2012 05:33 PM

Cassel. He is just complete, god-awful suck-garbage.

Pioli is second for believing in him if he ever truly did.

Death2CasselFans 11-04-2012 05:41 PM

Real Answer is ANYONE who thinks Cassel is a good QB.

The answer is Josh McDaniels, Scott Pioli and Bill Belichick.

Belichick should have signed Favre or a better free agent.
McDaniels and Pioli tried to bring him to their new teams.

jd1020 11-04-2012 05:47 PM

Crennel by a mile, imo.

The dude isn't just bad, he has no ****ing clue.


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