We just might get a trade down yet.
 

http://www.gbnreport.com/draftbuzz.html

please god.

Yea, except for the fact that they don't have to trade all the way up to #1 to get one of them.

This.

If any team were stupid enough to trade all the way up to #1 overall, it'd be the Dolphins.

Pay up bitches

No. But at #1 they would get their choice.

They have the 12th pick in the draft. Would you take the #12 and their highest picks in the second and third to do the swap? Remember the value isn't there like it was last year, compare this to the year the Jets moved up to get Sanchez.

yep. sign Albert long term.

They'll have to trade up fairly high to get either one.

Chiefs are probably gonna pick one and then the Lions will be right behind them with the other.

Miami has two second round picks. The #12, their first second round pick, and next year's first rounder would be enough.

Moving from 1 to 12 huh? I wonder what kind of value we could get there. I'd want their 1, both 2nds, and a 2nd next year.

I'd take any 2nd.... and asking for a 3rd on top of all that is unrealistic.

I love it.

Moving from #12 to #1 and its unrealistic to ask for more than 2nd ROFLROFL

"I got this" / Carl

yes, grab barkley and a decent G with the 2 and whatev with the 3 and sign albert long term

The next paragraph in the link provided suggests something along these lines.

This would be the smartest move in my opinion. I am hoping the fins do this with Oakland. Outside of this place most view Geno Smith as a reach who could take a Dan Marino type slide on draft day. He could end up sitting there at a much better value if the Chiefs make this trade~

orgasmic

Too many teams in the top 10 that desperately need something at QB for him to slide that far.

Arizona would be stupid to pass on him. They have Palmer to hold the fort for a couple years while they bring Smith up to speed.

Even if they were stupid enough to pass on him the Bills would be even bigger morons to say "Kolb's got this!"

Then you have long shots like the Jaguars and Jets that could take him.

or the Chiefs with Smiff

The Chiefs luck; they take Geno at 1; the everyone goes batshit and someone trades with Jax for 2 2nds this year a 1st next year; and 2 2nds the net year.

lol

I read an article about trade options for Miami a few days ago. They said the Raiders pick was worth their 1st and two 2nd rounders for whatever that is worth~

Trading up to #1 for a LT is too stoopid for any NFL team to do.

Last time a QB didn't go #1?

2008 - Jake Long, LT - Miami

Just sayin.

I think I would take that same deal this year for us, and not get too greedy.

Remind me, did Miami already have the #1 pick, or did they need to trade up 11 spots?

especially when there are 2 that they want.

#12 to #1 ROFL not a snowball's chance in hell

That will both be gone looooong before their pick.

They'll have to make a deal with a top 4 team to get one.

Joe Robbie is drinking anti-freeze in heaven looking down on his team.

Look at the teams that needed QBs that made moves for less than special QBs the Chiefs included. Outside of this place nobody is raving about Smith. This place has gone over the deep end with this kid. He may pan out who knows. That said the love fest going on here is strange~

If they call, I wouldn't hang up if I were Dorsey. Even if there are 2.

You mean like Christian Ponder, Jake Locker, Ryan Tannehill and Brandon Weeden?

can we throw in Smith to sweeten the deal?

So what you're saying is Kevin Kolb, Matt Flynn, and Jason Campbell = dealbreakers?

Uhhh ooookay

Pretty much.

And even if they made an offer, no chance in hell Reid would pass up the chance to get any of his top choices for what they would offer.

What I am saying is this place has gone ape shit over a guy most are luke warm about. I have read predictions he could slide to the 20s. Hey you guys might be right about the kid who knows. Oakland is sitting at 3 and I will be extremely disappointed if they take him. It has taken two off seasons to dig out of the crap Davis pulled. They will most likely have a good pick next year with close to 70 mil in cap space. I would rather they take their chances on a QB next year~

The ultimate **** you to blackmon would be KC to trade down AND get Geno ROFL. It isn't happening but would be funny

You guys are digging out of Davis's crap because he traded two high draft picks for Carson ****ing Palmer and gave him a bunch of money. Not because you drafted another Jamarcus Russell.

If this CBA were around when Russell busted out, Oakland fans would do a lot less bitching about the pick.

I agree that the time might not be right for your team, since you're going to be starting some pretty stinky shit for a year or two. But this isn't about Geno. It's about the "moves" that teams have made regarding QBs in the offseason that don't mean jack ****ing shit when it comes to the draft

Not only would that never happen, but the Jaguars are taking Dion Jordan regardless. So it would in no way effects my team.

No but you say KC is taking Joeckel, not taking Geno nor trading the pick. Would be funny if we not only DIDNT take Joeckel, but traded back to MIAMI who wants him (their OC used to be the coach there), and KC still took Geno. Would be funny to see your reaction.

Look I know you pushed all in with this guy. I am not invested in this enough to care. I will point out clearly what you think about Smith don't mean jack****ingshit to the Chiefs or any other NFL team. Clearly several people who scout for a living disagree with you~

Yep. Anything more would just be gravy.

And the more I think about it, the more sure I am that we'll trade down. I doubt we are content with not having a second round pick.
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No, YOU don't get it.

I didn't bring up Geno Smith. You did. I never intended to talk about him, either. He's not in this discussion.

I'm talking about what the Bills, Raiders, Cardinals, and Browns think of Kolb, Flynn, Palmer, and Campbell respectively.

I'll betcha $10 and a bag of doughnuts they don't give a shit about those guys, even if they start them for at least one season at QB.

They have no bearing whatsoever on how the QBs will fall in this draft.

They probably think the same thing the Chiefs SHOULD think of Alex Smith.

FYP. It takes two to trade...

I think even there, it's more of a 'I just want them to do it once, it's been too long' and 'everybody sucks in this draft and a QB is what we NEED' thing than a love fest at this point.

Could be, the reports I have read indicated those teams were not high enough on any QB to make a move to get one and Smith is rated the best of a very weak class so he gets mentioned in the conversation. KC has the only lock on the guy and they traded for a nothing special QB. So yes it is not a radical thought that Smith may slide~

I'm sure there are teams that want to trade up. Just a matter of finding who has the best offer.

That's a good enough reason to draft a QB at 1. And it's far from the only reason.

How will we ever win a Super Bowl without a Luke Joeckel?????

Said no one ever.

You guys have some solid players in place. I think it would be silly for them to spend this pick on Smith. I will go on record saying KC might not only win 10 games but could win the west outright~

This is Chief's Pessimism lounge. Don't ruin it for us.

That's probably a misperception. A lot of us have been high on the guy for months and think he could be really good at the next level.

That teams problems were coaching and QB. Both have been upgraded. Trust me I hope I am wrong~

Will never happen.

If the Jets trade Sanchez to the Bucs and gain an extra 1st rounder in a Revis trade, you gotta think that's your best option for a trade down.

Who are the Jets going to trade up to #1 for? Come on now.

If they do in fact trade Sanchez, trade up for Smith.

Your faith has to have wavered some as more info comes in. Not saying you've fallen into despair, or are just trying to save face. I just don't see how people can be so metaphysically certain on the guy, given the mountains of analysis.

To which "mountains of analysis" do you refer? Because I have yet to see a convincing argument against Smith from any established expert, many (of not most) of whom have moved him steadily up their draft boards since January. He already had the college numbers and tape, then he nailed the Combine, then he nailed his pro day, and finally he has purportedly done extremely well on his interviews. He appears to be going in the top 10. So basically all I'm hearing about him are things that I already knew to begin with.

Just one one several~
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...smith-critique

if we can get back the Alex Smith compensation for ANY TRADE down that keeps us in the top 15 SIGN ME THE **** UP

If no Geno then yes please

Getting the #1 pick with this particular draft class was the absolute worst ****ing thing that could happen to this board from January-April.

The NFL is such a copy cat league. HEY EVERYBODY LET'S SUCK FOR LUCK!!!!

Yup.

Mother ****ers were cheering loses for draft position.


Sigh.

My balls would shrivel from emptiness if this happened.

any trade down with the phins would bring a very nice haul. And the more pics you get for NEXT year even better I would think. But, the dolphins cant be serious can they? I mean I hope they are, that would be hilarious.....

Jets might need to trade up to #1 if they ship Sanchez to TB in the Revis trade. They will have the #9 and #13 picks in the first round.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...5736--nfl.html

With little hope of drafting a QB, I'd love to trade down instead of wasting that pick on a freakin' LT. We have a perfectly good LT now, so what's the upside? Give Albert the money, trade down, move on. If we can stay in the top 10 and get a high 2nd, I think I'm good. Anything else is icing on the cake.

You're trolling, right? We'll just trade the #1 overall for the #12 pick and a bag of Doritos. JFC!!! Some people just need to stop with the glass half empty attitude and introduce themselves to reality. NOBODY will ever trade from #1 to #12 for nothing more than a second rounder to exchange. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! If that were the case, it would happen every year in the draft for the all but guaranteed day 1 starter. With the new rookie scale, teams are no longer scared of the huge signing bonuses under the previous pay scale. The #1 has more value now than it did then.

Once again. That Sanchez rumor was shot down minutes later by someone with ties to the bucs on Twitter.

The bucs aren't stupid enough to take Sanchez I'm sure

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

According to this chart, it would take their 12 overall this year, both of their second round picks this year, and next years #1 and #2 pick to come close to the difference draft value. I could give a rats ass what some of you idiots think what YOU would do. John Dorsey wasn't born yesterday and won't just give away the pick acquired by the most miserable season in Chief history.

Value charts are worthless. The Chiefs must do what's best for team.

I'd rather have Ansah and Arthur Brown than Joeckel or Fisher.

That site also has a beautiful mock draft.