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DRAFT BUZZ Crashing the party Posted: March 25, 2015 | No Comments With the 2015 draft still some 5 weeks away there appears to be considerable movement of players up and down draft boards around the league. The following are a number of players who may not have been much more than third-day prospects when the draft process started, but have moved well up since and may actually have begun to get just a hint of late first-round consideration by some teams. Clemson ILB Stephone Anthony: Thought of a productive, but somewhat limited athlete with mid-to-late round prospect for the upcoming draft, Anthony has been pushing the envelope right through the pre-draft process starting at the senior Bowl where he was all over dispelling the notion that he had primarily between the tackles range. Anthony then had an outstanding combine where he clocked a very fast time of 4.56 seconds in the 40-yard dash, the third-fastest time among all defensive front-seven players in Indianapolis this year. For good measure, Anthony also had an athletic 37-inch vertical, while his agility drill times were all among the top figures at the position. Finally, Anthony showed plenty more agility and fluidity in positional drills at both the combine and the Tigers’ pro day earlier this month. NFL teams still have some concerns about Anthony’s natral football instincts, particularly when dropping into coverage, however, because of his toughness when making the tackle and overall athletic skills, Anthony has gone from a possible 4th-5th round pick this year to a point where he is contending with the likes of Mississippi’s State Benardrick McKinney, Eric Kendricks of UCLA and Miami’s Denzel Perryman to be the first inside linebacker off the board. Indeed, there is a palpable buzz that a team like Green Bay could actually be looking at him as a possibility for their late first round pick. Oregon OT Jake Fisher: We kind of joked early in the 2014 college season that Fisher should maybe get some Heisman consideration when the Ducks’ offense just took off after missing some time with an injury. Turns out Fisher may get the last laugh. Fisher is a former TE who has shown in pre-draft workouts that he he is a much more fluid, athletic offensive lineman than previously thought. At the combine, for example, Fisher had the second fastest 40 clocking among offensive linemen at 5.01 seconds, while he posted a 32.5-inch vertical, which also tied for second among OL, and then blew away the competition at the position in the agility drills. All that has NFL teams thinking of a Fisher as a guy who could come in and start at RT right away, but what has pushed his up boards across the league is the sense that he has the feet and work ethic to eventually play at LT at the next level, although he still needs to add some strength and clean up some technical issues, in particular his hand usage off the snap. However, at 6-6, Fisher has the frame to bulk up to the 320 pound range – he weighed 306 at the combine – and given the value team’s place on the LT position, is another player who now looks like a solid early-to-mid-second round candidate who no one would be totally shocked if some team ultimately pulls the string in the latter part of the opening round. Central Florida WR Breshad Perriman: If UCF’s Perriman didn’t have teams thinking about him as a potential early pick prior to his pro day this week, then they almost certainly will after he reportedly ran the 40 in something in the 4.3 range. In fact, Perriman may be just what the 2015 draft needs and that’s yet another really good prospect at receiver as he has a rare combination of size (he’s 6-2, 212), track speed and leaping ability. He also plays fast with an explosive first step and the ability to make sudden cuts. Indeed, he emerged as one of college football’s most dangerous big-play receivers last fall when he averaged almost 21 yards per catch (on 50 total receptions) and scored a team-leading 9 TDs on a team that really didn’t throw the ball all that well. In the past, though, Perriman has gotten by on his pure speed and athleticism and will need to clean some things up when he gets to the pros. In particular, his routes are sloppy as he tends to round them off and his hands are average at best as he lets too many passes get into his pads. Still, you can’t teach speed and athleticism such that his physical traits and ability to hit the big play should warrant plenty of early round consideration this year. And yes for the record, he is the son of former Miami WR Brett Perriman, who had a solid 10 year NFL career. Arizona State FS Damarious Randall: No player in the 2015 draft class has come further, faster than ASU’s Randall who wasn’t even playing football four years ago. Indeed, Randall played baseball at a community college in 2011 before transferring to Mesa Community College where he was a JC All-American in 2012 after picking off 9 passes that year. Randall then played the last two years at ASU where he evolved into one of the most productive safeties in the country as he led the team with 106 tackles last fall, including 9.5 for loss, while he picked off 3 passes and broke up 9 others. Randall isn’t all that big at just 5-11, 195, but he can really run and has great instincts and ball skills. Indeed, there are some teams that are reportedly looking at him as a possible corner, although he is probably a little stiff in the hips to hold up on an island against elite receivers. Still, Randall was only one of two safeties to run under 4.5 seconds at the combine (along with Eric Rowe of Utah), while he was in the top 2-3 prospects at the position in the other key physical tests including the agility drills. And in a year in which ball-hawking free safety types are about as rare as hen’s teeth, Randall is another guy with the potential to be off the board within the first 40 or so picks at this year’s draft. Bonus buzz: In addition to the above players, there is something of a buzz that QBs Bryce Petty of Baylor and Colorado State’s Garrett Grayson may have passed Brett Hundley of UCLA as the #3 prospect at the position this year behind Jameis Winston of Florida State and Oregon’s Marcus Mariota. Hundley is by far the best athlete of the three, but Petty and Grayson are just better passers out of the pocket. And given that there are simply more than two teams with major QB issues heading into the draft, the question around the NFL is just how early teams that don’t get Winston or Mariota will feel the pressure to get the next best thing at the position and that could mean reaching a tad in the second round. There has also been something of a buzz around the league of late that nobody should be surprised if Georgia RB Todd Gurley is selected a lot earlier than where he is being projected in most current mock drafts. Gurley, of course, was considered to be the best player in college football last season before he tore an ACL in October that sent his stock tumbling. However, Gurley’s rehab is reportedly going well such that he may not have to wait much past the first 10-12 or so picks before he starts to come into play, that is if somebody doesn’t pull the trigger in the top 10. Can not wait tell draft day should be exciting and good haul for KC this year ! LBs to me seem the hardest to judge/rate, and its too bad because thats a place I was wanting to find another DJ! My big board ugh.... #35 Kendricks #42 Anothny #46 Mckinney Shaq Thompson no idea where to slot this player can he be a good ILB ? Paul Dawson? |
Kendricks makes a ton of sense for us, if he's available in the 2nd. Spending a 1st on a non-elite ILB makes no sense. Stephone Anthony is probably just as good of a get in the 2nd, anyway, there's no reason to reach.
McKinney, it sounds like, has a very real chance of becoming a Chief if he's available in the 2nd as well -- not only is he a widely valued SILB (not by me, particularly), there was a rumor going around that the Chiefs were looking at him as a very real possibility to flex out to rushbacker and potentially replace Justin Houston. Shaq Thompson... eh. He's very talented and could probably play in any defense, but he's going to be gone by our 2nd round pick, and I don't want to burn a 1st on any of these guys. Paul Dawson, in my opinion, could be an excellent value acquisition on the 3rd day of the draft. He is very, very talented but will likely fall like a rock due to his abysmal Combine workout. I think he's excellent, and I'd definitely take him in the 4th or 5th. The ILB that's the true heir to DJ, though, is Denzel Perryman, who is easily the best ILB this draft has to offer, and has Pro Bowl potential. He's just an excellent general to have in the middle of your field, plays extremely tough, and does all the little things right with no apparent weakness. The downside to Perryman is that he's pretty much the player right now that he's ever going to be in the NFL. He's a pure "safe" pick, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I think Perryman and perhaps Thompson are the only ILBs worth taking in the 1st. But honestly, with DJ and Mauga, we can probably pick up another guy or two in free agency and Bob Sutton can make them fit. There is so much talent at OL and WR in the first few rounds (to say nothing of CB, and who knows if Reid wants to take a shot on a QB), that I'd just wait until the late rounds to go ILB. |
Thanks Direckshun
The Chiefs are really in a good spot this year, If they want they could build a hell of a OL for the future. Or Go bat crazy on some bad ass Dbs and have a lights out secondary full of head hunters. My guess is DL/OL/DB/WR/LB for the first 5 picks in any order depending whos available come picking time , and with ten picks shore up some special team type players that can play more than one position, training camp should be real interesting come final cut down. It all starts up front DL or OL , The secondary is pretty good right now, they could go DL, more push up the gut collapse the pocket and make our current secondary that much better.... So ready for draft day... to get here |
Perryman does not impress me.
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Guys, if we based our ILB assessment simply on vids of their college production last year, does not Paul Dawson look head and shoulders better than any other ILB coming out this year? He seems to have a very high football IQ and when he got to someone, they went down.
I know said "knucklehead" showed up looking like some out of shape fatty for the combine, but it's hard to ignore his play. Typically, I'm not big on guys with "baggage", but I think I'd definitely expend the resources necessary to figure out who this Paul Dawson guy is (e.g. can he be coached, does he have his head on straight or can he get it on straight, etc.). Seems to me this guy has a ton of talent.....kind of a natural gift for football. |
I think McKinney is in the mold of a Melvin Ingram. You'll start him at ILB but he has the flexibility to rush from the OLB spot.
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I'm not going to lie, folks, I've clocked Perriman at 4.2 in that Vine on my iPhone. I think it's legit.
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Because Denzel Perryman's the best ILB in this draft. |
I clocked Perriman 4 times based on that vid and got 4.30, 4.34, 4.35, 4.30. So, I'm going with 4.32. That's still much faster than I thought he was. He's legitimately a 4.3 guy.
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Um, you can't tell when he crosses the line because of the perspective. Grain of salt. |
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He's not a knucklehead nor does he have baggage. He failed a UA for adderol because he didn't have a prescription. He was late (we're talking minutes here) for meetings and weight lifting sessions. If he is there in the 2nd, the Chiefs should draft him. |
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He was injured running the 40 at the Combine, was he not?
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Don't get me wrong, I think the kid can flat play. In my mind he looks like the best ILB in the draft. Hope the Chiefs find a way to snag him. |
Charles Davis said don't be surprised if Kevin White is the 3rd receiver taken... if he makes it to the teens i'm going to want to trade up
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Paul Dawson, if he's in playing shape, is 215/220 lb. max. with short arms. If he's not in playing shape at 230 lb., he's a fat **** who is slower than frozen elephant shit. The ****ing guy is not playing in a 34. He would get completely ****ing destroyed in a 34. Guards will ****ing decapitate him. Tight ends will feast on his ****ing entrails. No way, no how. Period. End of story. Doneski. |
LMAO
Never change, Sac. |
So Shaq Thompson at 18. Thoughts?
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Not a fan, personally -- he's super athletic but I think he's an awkward fit at 3-4 ILB. I think he's got tweener written all over him.
He's more of a 4-3 OLB, or even a SS. |
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He just screams versatility to me. |
Yeah. Fair point. Honestly, you could throw a superb athlete like him into our defense and Sutton would maximize him.
Sutton had a banner year in 2014, and spun a bunch of straw into a bunch of gold. I'm a huge fan. I think he could make do with Thompson. I'd just angle for better talent elsewhere. |
True.
It's tough because he's def more athlete than football player at this point. That early in the draft, you'd rather have both. |
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Jeff Luc under the radar
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profil...luc?id=2553101 http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/f.../individual/34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eepWXJywEOs Looks in shape and seems nice lol, had six FF last year, averages about the same tackles as Ben Heeney but Ben had 88 solo tackles last year compared to 65 for Luc. Im starting to warm up to this guy and big Ben from Kansas Ben more so, of course there is Vigil and that Mayo kid from Tex. Chiefs should get one of these players based on there production alone or two see if they can make the final cut date. Looking at more tape and stats on LBs there has to be diamond in the rough for LBs this year..... |
I like Ben Heeney a ton as a late rounder.
Mike Hull is pretty great too. |
Yep forgot about Mike Hull as well...
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Ben Heeney. He overruns more plays than a drunk Shakespeare in a dumptruck with no brakes. |
Dawson ran much better 40 times at his pro dag
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He's a ****ing fat **** at a mere 230 lb. What do you think he weighs when he drops the 25 lbs. of lard that he was sporting at the Combine? And when he's a mere 230 lbs. (albeit a doughnut eating fat mother****er at 230 lbs.), the corpulent little butterball ran a 40 that competed with the best...wait for it...offensive linemen. He's 6'0", 31.5" arms and isn't fast. (Not to mention the 28" vertical that couldn't get his fat ass over a curb.) Oh, and in the month he had to correct the massive shitfest he dumped all over Indianapolis to his Pro Day? He ran an absolutely BLAZING 4.8. He's ****ing slow. And small. And short. And did I say ****ing slow? He's that too. What the **** do you think he's going to do in a 34? |
What did he do on the field?
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He doesn't have the tools to play in the pros at the level people saw of him in college. |
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I just hate overlooking good football players because of what they do in shorts. |
Not that he's the end-all/be-all of player evaluations, but I believe Mayock has Dawson rated as his top ILB. Doubt he's as horrid as some suggest.
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To get on the field in the NFL... you have to show you aren't a liability, first and foremost. That will be tough given his lacking measurables. Not too many guys like Tamba Hali (that flat out overwork you) make it... |
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I hate to side with Sac.... |
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Dawson was a great player on the field at Tcu. He may not translate, but you can't measure instincts etc in shorts. |
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He will get isolated at the next level and doesn't gave the physical tools to match up. I'd take a swing in the mid rounds on him, but not with a high pick. |
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Not worried about Dawson's range or instincts. It's his character and preparation that teams have to take the chance on. 3rd rd for me. That's the right spot for risk/reward.
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He's not playing in a 34. Period. Jesus ****ing Christ... |
If the chiefs sat in the 34 set primarily, sure.
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Looks like we might move up a spot or two depending on the NFL decisions/sanctions to take draft picks away from Falcons and Browns.
March 27, 2015 - 11:58 am Falcons, Browns bracing for sanctions … The NFL is expected to announce the sanctions against Atlanta and Cleveland early next week and both teams have already been told by the league that they will be ‘severe’. Indeed, both teams are now reportedly expecting to lose a draft pick this year. Cleveland, for example, has reportedly been working in its draft prep on the premise that they will probably lose one of their two 4th round picks this year. Cleveland is under the gun because G.M. Ray Farmer was illegally texting messages to his coaching staff during games. Farmer is also expected to be suspended for as many as four games next year. Meanwhile, Atlanta was found to be pumping noise into its stadium during games which is also a no-no. On the other hand, there still does not seem to be any timeline for resolving any sanctions against New England for the deflated football issue during the playoffs. |
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People wanted him run out of town on a rail. A year later, he's a defensive genius. The difference between Bob Sutton 2013 and Bob Sutton 2014. Justin Houston's health. |
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But the defense was killing it for the first 9 games of the '13 season in his that coverage scheme with Houston, and the bottom fell out when Houston was injured. |
well, the chiefs now have a little insurance for this year with Dee Ford. If Houston holds out, then Dee Ford will be able to start. Having '3' pass rushing OLB insures against injury as well.
The problem arises in 2016 when Hali is a free agent, and Houston gets very expensive to franchise again. |
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The guy is gonna be a hall of famer and is definitely the kind of guy you build a whole defense around. |
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There are only about four guys on the entire planet at any given time that can do what he did at the combine at his size. In the right scheme with the right coaching, he has the potential to destroy worlds. Take him, give him the Dee Ford treatment (basically sit him for a year, run him behind Hali/Houston on second team and learn him the defense) and then decide what to do with Houston and the prodigious salary demands. |
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I'd take dupree, although I'm a bit worried he's more athlete than football player.
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Ron Parker and Hussain Abdullah are much much better than Eric Berry and Kendrick Lewis with respect to coverage. I'm so happy especially that Kendrick Lewis is gone he was classic for exposing holes in our coverage. |
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The liability that was Kendrick Lewis, however, still didn't stop this defense from playing at a high level before Houston was hurt in '13. |
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Yeah, I think I would. Between Stephenson, Allen and Sherrod, there has to be a serviceable RT in there somewhere. All three were absolute studs in college and at least one has to be able to translate over. As well, between Fulton and Fanaika, there has to be a serviceable guard. (And I'm hoping that they can pick up a guy like John Miller in the draft and that answers that question right then and there.) Collins is the best plug and play offensive lineman in this draft and would be able to play four positions in this offense. However, Bud Dupree has physical gifts that are rarer than hens teeth, crocodile tears, whatever. He's a complete freak. And it's not like he's a slack ass. The guy is a team captain, was an excellent student and supposedly was a great locker room guy. He's raw in terms of technique, but you simply cannot deny the physical gifts that he has. Like I said, there is only a handful of people on the planet who can do what he did at the Combine. A freaking 42" vertical at 269 lbs.? 4.59 laser timed 40? Jesus... I think that with the amount of mid round picks that the Chiefs have in a pretty deep draft, I'd roll the dice on a specimen like Dupree and then get the best football players I could from there on out. Guys like McBride, Vigil, Miller, etc. |
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It has been mediocre to just plain garbage when he isn't. |
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On a side note, what I really think this defense needs (outside of ILB) is a solid nickel. Owens was our biggest liability in the passing game and we have yet to replace him. I Was VERY high on Gaines last year so I'm not worried about our corners on the outside. That could really help us take the next step. What do you think? |
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His real name should be Tre McBaldwin |
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So, yes I agree. Depending on how the draft falls, I would love to see the Chiefs trade a 3rd for Mychael Kendricks if there are any legs to the rumor that the Eagles are looking to move him. I'd also be willing to risk taking Marcus Peters in the first. |
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Dude, along with Louisville OL John Miller, was the best player at the Shrine game and it wasn't even close. He's this years Odell Beckham. Seriously. They are incredibly similar in play style, their combine numbers are nearly identical and they are both very dedicated route runners with the ability to high point the ball exceptionally well with a huge catch radius. Tre McBride would absolutely bust shit off in this system. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rYdz1CEDlTw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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Peters has been a perennial problem child his whole college career. Weed, bad attitude, on-field histronics, missing practices/team meetings, etc. There is a whole lot of stupid stuff associated with this guy in a really short time frame. And I think that Florida State's PJ Williams is just a better cornerback period. Plays nasty and physical. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WoFytl0UvaE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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I am merely using Peters as an extreme example to illustrate how crucial the need to upgrade corner. |
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If we took a corner, Id hope for Tre Waynes. Doubt he falls to us though.
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Well then, I agree. I've already said that I wouldn't mind it at all if PJ Williams was our first round selection. |
Well i found my LB but we will have to wait tell next year.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M1PTdQyRVY |
Speaking of PJ Williams
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...rested-for-dui could be a great get in round 2 or 3. |
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This was my reasoning for continuing to support Sutton. |
Potential trade rumor:
Cleveland trades picks 43, 111 and 115 to KC for picks 49, 80 and 217. |
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http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/nfl/rumors/ |
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