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Donger 01-08-2016 09:37 AM

Jeep Noise
 
Yes, I know that Jeeps making odd noises isn't very Earth-shattering, but the wife's Jeep has started a new and hitherto unheard noise. It happens while coasting and braking, not under acceleration. Kind of a clunking or rattling noise, and I can feel it under my feet when I drive it, so I figure left front. My first thought was the transmission, but somehow I don't think so. Maybe suspension, and the weight transfer under acceleration gets rid of it? I got under it and yanked on control arms and such, with no obvious movement.

Thoughts would be welcomed. Thanks.

KC native 01-08-2016 09:41 AM

Check the end links of the sway bay if it has one (not a jeep guy).

I just had to replace them on my old car that I'm about to sell.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-08-2016 09:41 AM

u-joint maybe

BossChief 01-08-2016 09:42 AM

Bad gas

Donger 01-08-2016 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 12006586)
Check the end links of the sway bay if it has one (not a jeep guy).

I just had to replace them on my old car that I'm about to sell.

Good thought. It's a 2005 Grand Cherokee. I think it has sways at front and back.

Donger 01-08-2016 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12006587)
u-joint maybe

Yeah, that's a possibility. The drive shaft is huge. Kind of funny that we've had the beast since 2005 and I've never been under it until a few days ago.

BlackHelicopters 01-08-2016 09:46 AM

Ban jeeps.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-08-2016 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006595)
Yeah, that's a possibility. The drive shaft is huge. Kind of funny that we've had the beast since 2005 and I've never been under it until a few days ago.

U Joints are easy to check. Most of those Jeeps have a built in u joint gauge in the dash. Have you noticed a light come on that says "check u Joint"

Donger 01-08-2016 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12006604)
U Joints are easy to check. Most of those Jeeps have a built in u joint gauge in the dash. Have you noticed a light come on that says "check u Joint"

No, I haven't seen such a light.

Warpaint69 01-08-2016 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006595)
Yeah, that's a possibility. The drive shaft is huge. Kind of funny that we've had the beast since 2005 and I've never been under it until a few days ago.

Does it make that noise when she puts it into reverse?

Donger 01-08-2016 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 12006610)
Does it make that noise when she puts it into reverse?

Not that I'm aware.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-08-2016 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006608)
No, I haven't seen such a light.

Then you probably have a faulty u joint gauge also.

Warpaint69 01-08-2016 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006613)
Not that I'm aware.

Could be a wheel bearing. I had a 2007 Suburban that had wheel bearing issues and would clunk when you applied the brakes.

Donger 01-08-2016 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12006615)
Then you probably have a faulty u joint gauge also.

Great....

Donger 01-08-2016 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 12006616)
Could be a wheel bearing. I had a 2007 Suburban that had wheel bearing issues and would clunk when you applied the brakes.

That's interesting. She had it washed last week and the noise went away until today.

stevieray 01-08-2016 10:15 AM

u joints

stevieray 01-08-2016 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12006615)
Then you probably have a faulty u joint gauge also.


LMAO

u joint guage....

Fairplay 01-08-2016 10:19 AM

hitherto

Chiefnj2 01-08-2016 10:22 AM

heat shield.

displacedinMN 01-08-2016 10:23 AM

dodgeforum.com

Eleazar 01-08-2016 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12006604)
U Joints are easy to check. Most of those Jeeps have a built in u joint gauge in the dash. Have you noticed a light come on that says "check u Joint"

LMAO

Eleazar 01-08-2016 10:24 AM

JeepsUnlimited was a good source of info for me once, haven't been there in a long while though

kstater 01-08-2016 10:26 AM

Sounds like the wipers need lubricated. A healthy dose of oil based lubricant on the blades should do the trick

Buehler445 01-08-2016 10:29 AM

Probably a U joint.

Is it 4WD? If it is it could be something in the transfer case or a driveshaft from the transmission to transfer case.

Get to a garage. U joints don't just fall out when they come apart. One end comes apart and the other keeps spinning - either from the transmission or the back wheels turning. That almost always tears shit up.

Donger 01-08-2016 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12006671)
Probably a U joint.

Is it 4WD? If it is it could be something in the transfer case or a driveshaft from the transmission to transfer case.

Get to a garage. U joints don't just fall out when they come apart. One end comes apart and the other keeps spinning - either from the transmission or the back wheels turning. That almost always tears shit up.

Yes, it's AW/4WD

Buehler445 01-08-2016 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 12006668)
Sounds like the wipers need lubricated. A healthy dose of oil based lubricant on the blades should do the trick

ROFL

That's outstanding! I'm telling my sister that shit today!

Buehler445 01-08-2016 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006673)
Yes, it's AW/4WD

Get it to the garage now before that shit comes apart.

U Joints are cheap. The stuff they tear up is not.

If it's a transfer case problem, get to it before it breaks the **** out of everything inside the transfer case or locks up and twists the driveshaft off.

Donger 01-08-2016 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12006676)
Get it to the garage now before that shit comes apart.

U Joints are cheap. The stuff they tear up is not.

If it's a transfer case problem, get to it before it breaks the **** out of everything inside the transfer case or locks up and twists the driveshaft off.

Thanks. I will. It's up at Breck at the moment though...

stevieray 01-08-2016 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006678)
Thanks. I will. It's up at Breck at the moment though...

Change the transfer case and gear oil, while you're at it.

Brock 01-08-2016 10:35 AM

I don't know if those have u joints or cv joints.

Buehler445 01-08-2016 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12006687)
*Have the garage* Change the transfer case and gear oil, while you're at it.

FYP

Gear oil is awful awful stuff.

stevieray 01-08-2016 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12006691)
FYP

Gear oil is awful awful stuff.

^^^^

Warpaint69 01-08-2016 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12006691)
FYP

Gear oil is awful awful stuff.

I call the non synthetic liquid dinosaur.

Kman34 01-08-2016 10:47 AM

U- joints first..if that's not it..front differential...

Donger 01-08-2016 10:49 AM

Heh. She said that the noise went away after a few minutes. Maybe climbing up to the divide warmed things up...

Fairplay 01-08-2016 10:56 AM

I don't recall the last time I've read hitherto in a sentence and I read quite often.

Archie F. Swin 01-08-2016 10:58 AM

Just crank the radio....you'll be a'ight

Iowanian 01-08-2016 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006724)
Heh. She said that the noise went away after a few minutes. Maybe climbing up to the divide warmed things up...


Do you think it was the homeless child she was dragging under the car or the dog tied to the rear bumper?

Donger 01-08-2016 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 12006754)
Do you think it was the homeless child she was dragging under the car or the dog tied to the rear bumper?

It could have been either, I suppose. Probably kept up for a few miles, too.

DC.chief 01-08-2016 11:09 AM

if you thought u-joint gauges are real you need to just take the thing to a shop and get it properly checked

Donger 01-08-2016 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC.chief (Post 12006765)
if you thought u-joint gauges are real you need to just take the thing to a shop and get it properly checked

Will they have a U-joint gauge checker?

stevieray 01-08-2016 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006766)
Will they have a U-joint gauge checker?

ya, it's called twisting the driveshaft by hand.

Donger 01-08-2016 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12006776)
ya, it's called twisting the driveshaft by hand.

Will that make the warning light come on? I could give that a try before taking it to the shop.

threebag 01-08-2016 11:21 AM

try the pizza stone

Brock 01-08-2016 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006780)
Will that make the warning light come on? I could give that a try before taking it to the shop.

If there's slop in the driveshaft it will be obvious. If there's a cv shaft that's bad at one of the wheels it's not so obvious.

KC native 01-08-2016 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 12006784)
If there's slop in the driveshaft it will be obvious. If there's a cv shaft that's bad at one of the wheels it's not so obvious.

Donger loves him some sloppy shafts.

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 01-08-2016 11:24 AM

Just drive it over the nearest cliff, then call the insurance company. Works every time.

Donger 01-08-2016 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 12006784)
If there's slop in the driveshaft it will be obvious. If there's a cv shaft that's bad at one of the wheels it's not so obvious.

Considering that it seems to be localized at the left front, I think a bad CV is likely the culprit. Why would it be intermittent, though?

Donger 01-08-2016 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 12006789)
Donger loves him some sloppy shafts.

That raises a question: do I yank on it length-ways or side-ways? Both?

stevieray 01-08-2016 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006796)
That raises a question: do I yank on it length-ways or side-ways? Both?

just twist it..if there is any play, you'll know.

Donger 01-08-2016 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12006797)
just twist it..if there is any play, you'll know.

Kinky...

KC native 01-08-2016 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006796)
That raises a question: do I yank on it length-ways or side-ways? Both?

LMAO

Brock 01-08-2016 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006794)
Considering that it seems to be localized at the left front, I think a bad CV is likely the culprit. Why would it be intermittent, though?

If there's contaminant inside the boot or it has lost some of its grease packing due to a torn boot, it may be getting lubrication intermittently. If it tends to make more noise when cold, it's probably because the grease is less viscuous when cold and it's not getting where it needs to be at that time (not enough grease inside the joint)

BlackHelicopters 01-08-2016 11:30 AM

Fetzer valve

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 01-08-2016 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006794)
Considering that it seems to be localized at the left front, I think a bad CV is likely the culprit. Why would it be intermittent, though?

A part is going bad, it hasn't totally failed yet. It will work properly sometimes until it totally breaks.

Donger 01-08-2016 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 12006803)
If there's contaminant inside the boot or it has lost some of its grease packing due to a torn boot, it may be getting lubrication intermittently. If it tends to make more noise when cold, it's probably because the grease is less viscuous when cold and it's not getting where it needs to be at that time (not enough grease inside the joint)

Excellent, thanks.

stevieray 01-08-2016 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006800)
Kinky...

Hence, driveshaft.

stevieray 01-08-2016 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 12006803)
If there's contaminant inside the boot or it has lost some of its grease packing due to a torn boot, it may be getting lubrication intermittently. If it tends to make more noise when cold, it's probably because the grease is less viscuous when cold and it's not getting where it needs to be at that time (not enough grease inside the joint)

..was always glad my Cherokee had a straight front axle.

Donger 01-08-2016 11:43 AM

Would they be able to diagnose a bad CV joint without it making the noise?

Over Yonder 01-08-2016 11:43 AM

The wifes dad has an early 2000 Jeep. Maybe 6 months ago or so he said he could feel a "wobble" during braking. He done some digging around and came up with a problem apparently only Jeeps have. He told me all about it then but, of course, I didnt pay much attention due to the fact I just didn't care:(

But, if it is just happening during or shortly after braking, it likly is due to this tire issue he was talking about. Its got a name (this tire condition) but I cant remember what its called. But if memory serves, something with the way Jeeps are built wont allow for smaller ply tires (like 4 or 6 ply). I guess they work ok until they start getting a little age on them, but eventually the sidewalls start having this problem.

May not be the same thing, but thought I would throw that out there. Wish I would of paid better attention now.

Buehler445 01-08-2016 11:44 AM

This thread is hilarious.

I don't know if your Jeep has CV. Last I knew most of them had a transfer case. If it is AWD vs 4WD it may.

Donger 01-08-2016 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12006828)
This thread is hilarious.

I don't know if your Jeep has CV. Last I knew most of them had a transfer case. If it is AWD vs 4WD it may.

Its AWD. No option for selecting 4L or H, or whatever it is.

Brock 01-08-2016 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12006828)
This thread is hilarious.

I don't know if your Jeep has CV. Last I knew most of them had a transfer case. If it is AWD vs 4WD it may.

Not sure what you mean by this. My 96 gmc truck has a transfer case and cv joints on the front differential.

DC.chief 01-08-2016 11:48 AM

google "death wobble" you don't even have to put in jeep, it comes right up

I get a lot of those at my shop

death wobble applies to Wranglers, CJs, TJs, YJs

Buehler445 01-08-2016 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006794)
Considering that it seems to be localized at the left front, I think a bad CV is likely the culprit. Why would it be intermittent, though?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 12006833)
Not sure what you mean by this. My 96 gmc truck has a transfer case and cv joints on the front differential.

Probably right. I thought that was just for front wheel drive vehicles.

Hydrae 01-08-2016 11:57 AM

When I had front wheel drive car that had a CVJ go out, it clicked when I would turn a corner but only then. This does not sound like the same symptoms.

I agree with those mentioning the U-joint though, that was my first thought when I read the OP.

gblowfish 01-08-2016 12:14 PM

My old Jeep made a clunking noise in the rear end. It ended up being some worn out gears in the rear end. Cost about $1500 to fix. If this is coming from up front under the passenger seats, may be a problem with the transfer case. Get it checked out before it causes major damage.

SAUTO 01-08-2016 12:18 PM

Probably the constant velocity joint at the transfer case

jspchief 01-08-2016 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12006587)
u-joint maybe

This

tooge 01-08-2016 12:37 PM

Finger, sounds like a u joint to me. Or a wheel bearing. U joint connects the drive daft to the diff, so get under there and see if the drive shaft has some play in it

tooge 01-08-2016 12:41 PM

Also, your wife won't bitch so much with your balls in her mouth. Just sayin

Squalor2 01-08-2016 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 12006934)
Also, your wife won't bitch so much with your balls in her mouth. Just sayin


you are dentist

Squalor2 01-08-2016 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006580)
Yes, I know that Jeeps making odd noises isn't very Earth-shattering, but the wife's Jeep has started a new and hitherto unheard noise. It happens while coasting and braking, not under acceleration. Kind of a clunking or rattling noise, and I can feel it under my feet when I drive it, so I figure left front. My first thought was the transmission, but somehow I don't think so. Maybe suspension, and the weight transfer under acceleration gets rid of it? I got under it and yanked on control arms and such, with no obvious movement.

Thoughts would be welcomed. Thanks.

pony up a couple of bucks and take it in for a rotation and alignment. theyll suss out any front end problems especially if you ask for them to check fluid levels (hint!).

HemiEd 01-08-2016 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 12006690)
I don't know if those have u joints or cv joints.

I would guess both

HemiEd 01-08-2016 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC.chief (Post 12006765)
if you thought u-joint gauges are real you need to just take the thing to a shop and get it properly checked

and we have a winner

HemiEd 01-08-2016 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12006794)
Considering that it seems to be localized at the left front, I think a bad CV is likely the culprit. Why would it be intermittent, though?

loading and unloading

Squalor2 01-08-2016 09:22 PM

it would be easier if dong would say the model, year and miles. until then death wobble fetzer obstruction is quite possible. donger on his back playing with a shaft makes this thread.

Donger 01-08-2016 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12007946)
loading and unloading

Yeah, but it seems to go away once everything warms up. That's what I meant with intermittent.

Donger 01-08-2016 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squalor2 (Post 12007987)
it would be easier if dong would say the model, year and miles. until then death wobble fetzer obstruction is quite possible. donger on his back playing with a shaft makes this thread.

Hi. I don't believe that we've ever interfaced. My user name is Donger. It's nominal to meet you.

I already stated the model.

I already stated the year.

The mileage is 78,000.

Buzz 01-08-2016 09:50 PM

I can't see you rolling around on the ground trying to replace a $150 CV joint, so you might as well take it to a shop. If you want to know a ballpark price go to repairpal.com


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