Albert Wilson
 

7 catches, 122 yards the last 2 games he started seeing real action.

Liked what he has shown so far. He's a decent blocker too. What are your thoughts? Nice number 4 WR (maybe the 3rd WR) for the future?

Would be really nice if he became a nice contributing WR for years so we at least got someone from the best WR class ever.
And he's a hell of a lot better than Jenkins, Avery and Hammond. **** those guys.

He's not better than Avery LMAO

At least you can't say for sure. The sample size is too small. We don't even know if he's better at staying healthy than Avery is, which is our biggest problem with him at the moment.

For a player who didn't really get look at. Glad we kept him on the roster.

JAG

He's going to be a good player IMO. The one thing separating him from all the other "black Welker" clones is he has legit 4.3 speed.

Avery sucks.

Bad hands. Horrible route running. Can't/won't go over the middle. Wears baggy, long sleeve shirts.

He's not some scrawny receiver like Avery, DAT or DMC. The guy is 200 lbs and has used it to block and take the hits outside.

He's a midget, but I want him here in the lineup next year.

Honestly wouldn't mind having Bowe, Avant and Wilson here next year with 2 new WR's to make up our WR core.

I've read that about him before!


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I remember when AJ Jenkins "busted out" at the end of last year and everybody said he was better than Avery.

Avery has a ****ing body of work to show for his time in the NFL. It's not much, but it's significant enough that he still burns coverages with his speed when he's healthy.

Saying Wilson is already better than Avery is just another example of Chiefs fans shooting their loads over nobodies too soon because they're just so damn desperate for stars on the team.

Wilson was an excellent FBS player. He has sub 4.4 speed and just needs time to develop.

It's hilarious that people are screaming "Why don't the Chiefs develop receivers!" when in fact, that's exactly what they're doing with Hammond, jr. and Wilson.

Wilson has excellent upside, IMO, despite the fact that Direckshun "cuts" him in every mock draft.

LMAO

Snoop Minnis is way better than Derrick Alexander!

And it happens with the WR position more than any other.

Junior Hemmingway
Bobby Sippio
Lance Long
Etc....

It's too early to predict his career numbers but for a guy from a small school that's improved each week of his rookie season, I think it's fair to be optimistic about his upside.

Avery, IMO, it a major disappointment but at the same time, no one should be surprised. His career has been extremely rocky due to his inability to stay healthy. He'd probably be a solid 60-70 catch a year guy if not for his constant injuries.

He destroyed his guy on that 23 yarder to dat, sucks he blocked too early. Im not going to say hes better than avery right now, but he does have a MUCH higher celing. What really seperate the two is quickness and physicality. Wilison is a lot more physical player than avery. His release is pretty nasty. He made both peterson and cromartie look pretty silly last week when they tried to press him. Wilson also looks quite a bit quicker than avery to me, and looks like he could be a more dangerous ball carrier, but we havent seen enough of that to say he is.

I'm optimistic about Wilson. He's actually a very smart receiver, which is something that Hammond and Jenkins are absolutely not.

He definitely has a place on this team next year.

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I like him.

He could be our discount Steve Smith.

None of those guys had 4.3 speed.

Also I really don't remember AJ Jenkem doing shit last year.

We have a lot of speed on offense, outside of Bowe/Avant/Fasano.

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Just incase you missed it. Pretty sob story. Though it seems everyone in the nfl had one

Because dorsey = al davis jr. That guy is obsessed with measurable numbers.

I like him. Little dude, but the same size as TY Hilton. Legit speed. SNR is a jealous, Avery-loving bitch.

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Nope.

There is almost zero risk in drafting late round picks and signing undrafted free agents that might be raw, but possess incredible measurables like Wilson.

Van dyke, parker, avery, cooper, and wilson are all 4.3 guys he brought here.

2013 draft
Fisher- ridiculously athletic for his size
Knile 4.3 guy
Catapano- ridiculously athletic for his size
Commings.- sub 4.40 guy, ridiculously athletic for his size.

2014 draft
Dee ford- did you not see his pro day? Ridiculous athlete
Gaines-4.3 guy
Dat-ran 4.3 at his pro day
Tardif-ridiculously athletic for his size.

It could not be more obvious that he LOVES speed and athleticism.

he's a midget but at this point, really the only promising wideout in the last two seasons.. which is saying a lot about the heap of garbage Dorsey has compiled

Al Davis routinely over drafted and overpaid players for their speed.

Dorsey has done neither based on speed alone.

Dee ford was graded as a second rounder by most, drafted by us in the 1st
Knile davis was projected as a 7th rounder to UDFA, drafted by us in the 3rd
Sanders Commings was projected as an udfa, drafted by us in the 5th.

I'd say those guys count as both over drafting, and over paying.... Dorsey isnt as bad as Davis, and he does look for other qualities, but he values speed and athleticism over nearly everything.

Dee Ford is what happens when plans A, B, C, AND D get yanked out from under you.

*bows head to pray*

He has shown more ability in a few games than Hemingway and AJ Jenkins in two years. Avery will be cut soon, 4 mill. against the cap and just 500k of dead money, he is over in KC.

I think he's pretty good. The more space he has the quicker he can get away. Looks like a solid down field threat.

Liked him in preseason, and he has had made plays when give the chance. Avery is brokedick.

I'm sure you guys saw it, but one running play, Wilson dove at an ILB (IIRC, regardless it was someone far bigger than him) and got crunched trying to spring Davis. He was late coming from the far side, which is why he got crunched but when he stuck his nose in there, he had to know he was going to take it, but did it anyway, because there was an outside chance it would work. Avery doesn't do that kind of thing. And hell, if we're not going to throw to WRs, they just as well block.

I believe he also dropped a pass.

I like the kid and he shouldn't be dumped. He shouldn't be an excuse to not find an upgrade, but he earned his spot.

This. Guys like Wilson are supposed to be the UDFA type players. Not Bobby Sippio, who is slower than the second coming of Christ.

It could be that.

Or it could be that I'm capable of recognizing that a WR with, you know, years of experience and a history of making big plays, averaging 400-500 yards and some TDs per season, is currently better than an undrafted guy who just took his first piss while standing up a couple weeks ago.

One or the other.

Avery is definition of JAG, that IS his body of work

Wilson is that unknown potential that keeps the true fans hooked for the next off-season. See also Cooper, Marcus or Johnson, Rishaw or Hemmingway, Junior or Bray, Tyler, et al.

JAG is better than the alternative

Now wait a minute. I thought that the young players that hadn't proved anything had more upside because they could improve and become something more.

Donnie Avery has 15 catches for 176 yards this year

Wilson has 7 catches for 122 yards and has played in less games.


Yes Wilson is better than Avery.

They've basically played the same amount of games. Avery hasn't been healthy since what? Week 5? And that's basically around the same time that Wilson finally started getting snaps on offense.

I'm just saying, this forum has a tendency to prematurely crown the asses of JAGs. Wilson looks to be as promising as any of them, but that doesn't mean he's already the 2nd best WR on the team as of right now.

Riiiight.

And Ron Parker is better than Eric Berry and Marcus Cooper is better than Brandon Flowers blah blah blah.

This sort of logic is akin to popping a boner every time a girl says your name.

Im glad Wilson is making the most of the time he's been given, but let the kid actually build a body of work before declaring him better than the next guy.

Chiefs need to replace Avery this offseason. Wilson has the potential to get better and he's in year 1. Avery will be 31 next year, he still has stone hands, he's overpaid and he's injured a lot.

He's gone.

I've been fairly impressed with the guy but who knows.

Donnie Avery never was the player that Eric Berry or Brandon Flowers were. So your argument is bullshit.

I have no idea who is actually better but I do know that Donnie Avery is a slapdick brokedick shithead of a receiver.

You ability to understand the point is bad. Very bad.

Here, let me explain: Avery, has actually made a career for himself. We've seen what he's good at and what he isn't.

Wilson has had two games where he's looked like an NFL receiver.

Calm the **** down. For all you know, he could fall off a cliff next week ala Parker/Cooper.

2 Games and you're already ready to declare someone.....


Stupid....

Avery is gone next year

can't stay healthy
keeps dropping key passes
more money

Avant and Wilson look like they will make decent backup guys

At my sports bar yesterday, the waitress called me by name when she gave me my credit card. I added a dollar to her tip. I love it when they call me by name.

He should have been released when he started wearing loose long sleeve shirts under his pads.

pretty sure knile had been injured... and ran a sub 4.4 at 227 lbs.


i cant find anything projecting him to be an UDFA.


commings was projected as a 4th rounder by 2 different sites.

dee ford was rated the 30th overall player in his draft and projected to go last 5 of the first to first 5 of the second.


your post is inaccurate at the least

I remember reading articles on how knile was a first round talent that was coming off of an injury. idk where he got that udfa shit.

Nfldraftscout.com had knile at round 7,3-4 was the high, and undrafed was his low...
Most sites had knile as a 2nd -4th round talent who would fall to the end of the draft due to his injury history. It wasnt until he blew the combine up, that he started getting mid round grades
And that was due to people knowing that there are a lot of guys out there who would be willing to take a shot on him due to his measurables. He was a reach.

Sites like that can barely figure out the 1st round. It means dick.

The Chiefs saw what they wanted to see, figured he was worth a mid round pick and they were right. End of story. Who gives a **** what some draft site pegged a player at. They're almost always wrong and certainly not something to build an argument around.

Avery was never a good WR to begin with.

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And you still missed the point.

I have a hard time complaining about Knile Davis and his 3rd round draft status with the production he's given us this far as a backup RB and a kick returner (2 TD's).

He also makes a nice insurance policy for the most important player on our offense.

No I didn't miss the point i'm ignoring your point because it's shitty and your logic is flawed.

and when people say things like, "well yeah, but we could've had him in the 7th round!" I just have to roll my eyes. No one actually knows that shit.

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I'll root for him, if for no other reason than we already know Avery's ceiling, and it's not very high.

Nope. You clearly don't get it. No flaw in my logic at all.

One player has proven what he can do over the course of a career. We know what he is. Another has two games under his belt. A sample size too small to draw any conclusions from.

Of course, your simple ass is ready to get on your knees for him because that's what simple people do. Over react. A JAG has a nice little patch of games and people like you are ready to cut proven players for him. Ron Parker, Marcus Cooper, Eric Kush, Jerrel Pow etc etc. The list goes on and on.

To be clear, im not advocating that Avery should keep his job next season either.

But to sit here and act like Wilson is better than Avery already is ****ing reeruned.

Where in this thread have I stated anything about Albert Wilson being more than a JAG? I said he's better than Donnie Avery because he is.

Proof?

that waitress probably tried to upsell you appetizers and a dessert, as well, didn't she, Rain Man?

The last name trick is one that is trained to all waitstaff and most people just find it incredibly awkward so no one really does it. Of course, if it is done, it's always done towards rich looking business men so you were targeted.

Sorry for the bad news!

I disagree completely.

And I think that Knile Davis has performed far above UDFA status, which is a joke.

It never ceases to amaze that guys like you think that bozos with nothing more than an internet domain are smarter than longtime personnel evaluators and NFL GM's.

I just compared this seasons numbers and Wilson has played in less games. There's your proof.

This season....a season where Donnie was injured for nearly all of it. A season where Wilson wouldn't even see the field if not for his injury.

That's not proof. Sorry.

Donnie Avery's Rookie Season went for 53 rec 675 Yards.

Get back at me when Wilson even sniffs that. Then we'll have a legit conversation.

Exactly.

There were people here that said of Hali "The Chiefs could have traded back and got him 10 spots later!", as if it would have been a "good idea" to not take Hali in the first.

LOL I'd bet anything Mecca said something like that.

Billay is making about as much sense as Black Bob right now.

Yes this season a season where Wilson has started only 2 games and has already matched Avery's production.

ROFL 2008 was forever ago in NFL years. Avery was a 2nd round draft pick. apples to oranges much?

Geno Smith, Javier Arenas, now Donnie Avery. Great track record there SNR.

Yeah I ****ing loooooove Arenas and Avery. LMAO

Did you even read what Detoxing posted earlier?

I've been really impressed with this kid. He's sneaky quick and his routes are on point.

You can't make that observation with such a small sample size!

Albert Wilson is a promising young WR. I think he'll be a solid slot receiver but don't expect him to ever be a #1 or even a #2 WR. He's a nice 4th - 5th developmental WR in any solid WR group. Only problem is, we don't have a solid WR group so Wilson looks a lot better to the fans than he actually is.

Look, just shut the **** up. You claimed you were all about logic earlier, and then you post nothing but strawmans all over the place.

You're a dumbass.