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okiedokieokoye 07-10-2017 02:36 PM

We have a new GM and his name is Brett Veach
 
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
From @TomPelissero and me: The #Chiefs are finalizing a deal for Brett Veach to be their new GM.

pugsnotdrugs19 07-10-2017 02:36 PM

Chiefs name Brett Veach as new GM
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero">@TomPelissero</a> and me: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> are finalizing a deal for Brett Veach to be their new GM.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/884510386346754049">July 10, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

penbrook 07-10-2017 02:38 PM

Make sense. Ian said Veach and Borganzi were running the show last week

Rasputin 07-10-2017 02:38 PM

As if this is shocking surprise

Rasputin 07-10-2017 02:39 PM

Okeydokie

penbrook 07-10-2017 02:40 PM

Makes sense. Ian said him and Borgonzi were running the show last week

The Franchise 07-10-2017 02:43 PM

Everyone knew that was coming.

ptlyon 07-10-2017 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12950895)
Everyone knew that was coming.

Well yeah, because Ian said him and Borgonzi were running the show last week

teedubya 07-10-2017 02:45 PM

Print 'em?

Eleazar 07-10-2017 02:45 PM

How good is he at wearing ties and picking up candy wrappers?

Sorce 07-10-2017 02:46 PM

Do we know his stance on candy wrappers?

Eleazar 07-10-2017 02:46 PM

Quote:

Ian Rapoport ✔ @RapSheet

For the #Chiefs, Brett Veach was the top internal candidate. Andy Reid loves him.
And people think this wasn't a Reid power play?

penbrook 07-10-2017 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12950901)
How good is he at wearing ties and picking up candy wrappers?

He's 39. I assume he likes to wear suits

The Franchise 07-10-2017 02:48 PM

Chiefs promoted co-director of player personnel Brett Veach to GM.

The move should give Kansas City stability atop the organization after John Dorsey's shocking firing. Veach has an extensive college scouting background and spent the last two seasons as the Chiefs' co-director of player personnel, working closely with Dorsey and Andy Reid. Veach followed Reid from Philadelphia to Kansas City. He was credited with playing a prominent role in drafting both DeSean Jackson and Fletcher Cox with the Eagles.

penbrook 07-10-2017 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12950905)
And people think this wasn't a Reid power play?

Name me a better option out there. Veach knows the system and I expect him and Borgonzi kind of running the show together. Both very good at finding talent

Red Dawg 07-10-2017 02:49 PM

Good to hear. Now we can move on.

penbrook 07-10-2017 02:49 PM

His first order of buisness is to get PM2 signed ASAP

Eleazar 07-10-2017 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12950911)
Name me a better option out there. Veach knows the system and I expect him and Borgonzi kind of running the show together. Both very good at finding talent

When you are looking for a GM in July, your options probably are pretty limited.

penbrook 07-10-2017 02:52 PM

Per John Middlekauff

Worked with Brett Veach for years. He'll be great. On the same page w/Andy, has a very good eye & is football 24/7

The Bad Guy 07-10-2017 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12950905)
And people think this wasn't a Reid power play?

This had zero to do with Reid.

Hammock Parties 07-10-2017 02:54 PM

Coining and copyrighting "Son of a Veach" when this dude ****s up.

penbrook 07-10-2017 02:55 PM

Veach enters his first season as an NFL General Manager and his 11th year in the National Football League. He will report directly to Hunt on all player personnel matters. Prior to being elevated, he previously served as the Chiefs Co-Director of Player Personnel.

Did Dorsey report to Hunt directly regarding player personnel matters?

ChiefGator 07-10-2017 02:55 PM

I wonder if he was running the show last week already....

DaneMcCloud 07-10-2017 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12950916)
When you are looking for a GM in July, your options probably are pretty limited.

Bullshit

DaneMcCloud 07-10-2017 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 12950924)
This had zero to do with Reid.

Don't waste your time on the troll

Red Dawg 07-10-2017 02:57 PM

Yes he did. The HC and GM report straight to Clark. Not to each other.

DaneMcCloud 07-10-2017 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12950926)
Coining and copyrighting "Son of a Veach" when this dude ****s up.

Oh, you mean like taking a CB in the 3rd round, bypassing Dak Prescott, only to cut him before the end of Training Camp?

That kind of **** up?

penbrook 07-10-2017 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 12950932)
I wonder if he was running the show last week already....

Yep. Rapoport said him and Borgonzi were running it last week

rico 07-10-2017 02:58 PM

Cool...I don't know much about him, but I hope he does well.

Hammock Parties 07-10-2017 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12950940)
Oh, you mean like taking a CB in the 3rd round, bypassing Dak Prescott, only to cut him before the end of Training Camp?

That kind of **** up?

Just saying. I want to get in on this gravy train before it takes off like "Dammit Carl" and "Egoli."

penbrook 07-10-2017 02:59 PM

He's founded the likes of Fletcher Cox, Desean Jackson, and Lesean McCoy

Eleazar 07-10-2017 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 12950924)
This had zero to do with Reid.

Whether Reid was in Clark's ear about getting rid of Dorsey or he was simply fired over money as per the official story, the team is not better off than it was before.

DaneMcCloud 07-10-2017 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12950947)
the team is not better off than it was before.

You have zero evidence that this is true.

Chief_For_Life58 07-10-2017 03:03 PM

who?

gblowfish 07-10-2017 03:04 PM

He has funky rooster hair. Hope he's not a numbskull.

The Bad Guy 07-10-2017 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12950947)
Whether Reid was in Clark's ear about getting rid of Dorsey or he was simply fired over money as per the official story, the team is not better off than it was before.

The official story was that Dorsey stopped communicating and Clark wasn't going to extend someone he thought was too comfortable.

Ballard is the big loss here.

JakeF 07-10-2017 03:05 PM

Great!! He can continue to babysit Reid's kids.

Rasputin 07-10-2017 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 12950950)
who?


is on first

DaneMcCloud 07-10-2017 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 12950951)
He has funky rooster hair. Hope he's not a numbskull.

He has a Master's Degree in Education, interviewed for the Bills job in May, scouted and found several high quality players (LeSean McCoy, Desean Jackson among others) and according to NFL circles, would have been hired in 2018 as a GM elsewhere.

MahiMike 07-10-2017 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12950911)
Name me a better option out there.

John Dorsey

rico 07-10-2017 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12950958)
He has a Master's Degree in Education, interviewed for the Bills job in May, scouted and found several high quality players (LeSean McCoy, Desean Jackson among others) and according to NFL circles, would have been hired in 2018 as a GM elsewhere.

Nice.

PunkinDrublic 07-10-2017 03:08 PM

JFC he's younger than me. Time to reevaluate my life decisions.

Eleazar 07-10-2017 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 12950953)
The official story was that Dorsey stopped communicating and Clark wasn't going to extend someone he thought was too comfortable.

Ballard is the big loss here.

'too comfortable' is not exactly a well reasoned justification for firing the GM right before the season IMO.

Especially, as you say, just months after the same owner let the top GM candidate walk away.

Call it a crisis of leadership.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-10-2017 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12950958)
He has a Master's Degree in Education.

Not to pick nits, but anyone with a pulse can get an MAE.

RunKC 07-10-2017 03:10 PM

From Clark:

Quote:

“Brett has a sharp football mind, a tremendous work ethic and a keen eye for finding talent. Over the last four seasons he’s played a critical role in building our football team. I look forward to working with him to continue to build on the strong foundation we have in place.”
Remember the reports that internal employees were pissed that Dorsey got the credit for talent they found?

Do you think that Veach was the one finding a lot of the guys we brought in the last 4 years?

Apparently Clark does.

DaneMcCloud 07-10-2017 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12950965)
'too comfortable' is not exactly a well reasoned justification for firing the GM right before the season IMO.

Especially, as you say, just months after the same owner let the top GM candidate walk away.

Call it a crisis of leadership.

This is complete and utter bullshit.

Teams routinely fire their GM's just after the draft. On April 30, Doug Whaley was fired by the Bills and was replaced by Brandon Beane on May 12th.

Fortunately, Veach didn't get the Buffalo job.

DaneMcCloud 07-10-2017 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12950966)
Not to pick nits, but anyone with a pulse can get an MAE.

His qualification don't point to him as being a "numbskull".

Maybe he is but I highly doubt it.

The Bad Guy 07-10-2017 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12950965)
'too comfortable' is not exactly a well reasoned justification for firing the GM right before the season IMO.

Especially, as you say, just months after the same owner let the top GM candidate walk away.

Call it a crisis of leadership.

Clark Hunt clearly had his reasons.

Predarat 07-10-2017 03:15 PM

Dammit Carl! Or somebody!

RunKC 07-10-2017 03:16 PM

Matt Miller
For anyone and everyone asking...

Ballard would have been my A1 for Chiefs job, Veach is A2. Very good hire.


Matt also said in 2015 that Veach would be a GM shortly after Ballard.

Tribal Warfare 07-10-2017 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12950967)
From Clark:



Remember the reports that internal employees were pissed that Dorsey got the credit for talent they found?

Do you think that Veach was the one finding a lot of the guys we brought in the last 4 years?

Apparently Clark does.

The Sunshine, Rainbows, and Ice Cream assumption of Veach is that he had the lionshares credit selecting Jones,Hill, and Kelce.

SAUTO 07-10-2017 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 12950972)
Clark Hunt clearly had his reasons.

OBVIOUSLY HE ****ING DIDNT, HE FIRED A GUY JUST TO FIRE HIM!

penbrook 07-10-2017 03:18 PM

I feel like Veach and Borgonzi will be working closely with each other. Two great people with an eye for talent

SAUTO 07-10-2017 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 12950983)
The Sunshine, Rainbows, and Ice Cream assumption of Veach is that he had the lionshares credit selecting Jones,Hill, and Kelce.

you have said this multiple times and it sounds silly every time

Eleazar 07-10-2017 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 12950972)
Clark Hunt clearly had his reasons.

I am sure he did, and since we will never get the real story we can only speculate. I just wish that the product on the field were the primary motivation for Hunt's decisions.

penbrook 07-10-2017 03:19 PM

Just if anyone is interested

Brett Veach's introductory press conference with Chairman and CEO Clark Hunt will be Monday, July 24 at 10:30am.

penbrook 07-10-2017 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12950988)
I am sure he did, and since we will never get the real story we can only speculate. I just wish that the product on the field were the primary motivation for Hunt's decisions.

I'm pretty sure the cap situation had some to do with it.

In58men 07-10-2017 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12950985)
OBVIOUSLY HE ****ING DIDNT, HE FIRED A GUY JUST TO FIRE HIM!

You remind me of Bob Dole. Always wanting to ban and having childish outbursts.

DaneMcCloud 07-10-2017 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 12950983)
the Sunshine, Rainbows, and Ice Cream assumption of Veach is that he had the lionshares credit selecting Jones,Hill, and Kelce.

I don't think that's true at all.

Ryne Nutt, the Chiefs Southeast Scout, was the guy that heavily scouted Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill.

SAUTO 07-10-2017 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12950993)
You remind me of Bob Dole. Always wanting to ban and having childish outbursts.

i was being sarcastic you stupid ****.

how many people have i actually banned? how many people have i actually voted to be banned?

if you dont know the answers to the questions you should shut the **** up.

DaneMcCloud 07-10-2017 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12950988)
I am sure he did, and since we will never get the real story we can only speculate. I just wish that the product on the field were the primary motivation for Hunt's decisions.

Bullshit, again.

The "story" has been revealed by Albert Breer, Terez Paylor, Sam Mellinger and others.

You just foolishly choose not to believe it.

Tribal Warfare 07-10-2017 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12950994)
I don't think that's true at all.

Ryne Nutt, the Chiefs Southeast Scout, was the guy that heavily scouted Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill.

As I said it is the blind hope assumption.

RunKC 07-10-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12950994)
I don't think that's true at all.

Ryne Nutt, the Chiefs Southeast Scout, was the guy that heavily scouted Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill.

I think he got a promotion. He's no longer listed as a scout.

Now he's Assistant director of college scouting per the team chiefs.com.

JohnnyHammersticks 07-10-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 12950964)
JFC he's younger than me. Time to reevaluate my life decisions.

I know Veach is in management so it's different, but the morning you wake up and realize that there aren't any professional athletes as old as you are is pretty depressing. With me, it was when Jamie Moyer retired.

Thank God for the Senior PGA tour.

DaneMcCloud 07-10-2017 03:27 PM

Not generally a fan of Arrowhead Pride but this is interesting, nonetheless:

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/...e-gm-candidate

More ...

This is an exciting example of his eye for talent - he pounded the table for Fletcher Cox while with the Eagles.

Definitely give this podcast a listen, it features interviews with Veach (starting around 24-minute mark) along with Chris Ballard and Mike Borgonzi (another potential in-house candidate)

Veach indicates he has a dual role in scouting pro players (for cut downs) and traveling to scout college players (this is great preparation for a GM role). Veach discussed how the back end of the roster is critical, and the Josh Mauga and Husain Abdullah signings were the types of free agents that pay dividends.

-King- 07-10-2017 03:29 PM

Good hire. I heard him and Borgonzi were running the show last week.
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JoeyChuckles 07-10-2017 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12950926)
Coining and copyrighting "Son of a Veach" when this dude ****s up.

Beat you to it by two weeks, ya jackass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 12933082)
I want him just so we can say "Son of a Veach" whenever something goes wrong.

On that note, I'm out again. Nice seeing you all.


JohnnyHammersticks 07-10-2017 03:30 PM

Walter Football gives the hire a B+.

The good news: Walter Football usually hates every single move the Chiefs make.

The bad news: Walter Football doesn't know their asses from a hole in the ground.

Chiefs hire GM Brett Veach: B+ Grade
The Chiefs weren't expected to fire John Dorsey, but this move was more predictable. The Kansas City Star's Terez Paylor reported that Brett Veach was expected to be named Kansas City's new general manager, and that's exactly what happened.

Veach is a fine hiring. To be more precise, the Chiefs actually promoted Veach, as he was the co-director of player personnel. Veach has worked with Andy Reid for many years; he was once a top scout for the Eagles, so it's nice that the two have an extensive relationship.

In a vacuum, I'd say there were better candidates to be Kansas City's general manager. However, that doesn't matter in this instance because Reid is the one making all of the personnel decisions. Veach will handle the finances and contracts, much like Dorsey did.
Read more at http://walterfootball.com/coachfireh...gq4S3QQJCqI.99

DaneMcCloud 07-10-2017 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 12951018)
However, that doesn't matter in this instance because Reid is the one making all of the personnel decisions. Veach will handle the finances and contracts, much like Dorsey did.

ROFL

staylor26 07-10-2017 03:35 PM

You have to think a guy that pounded the table for guys like Cox, DJax, and McCoy in Philly before learning from Dorsey/Ballard has the potential to be a really good one.

Can't wait to see how he does in his first draft without a 1st.

penbrook 07-10-2017 03:36 PM

Wtf Reid has no say in this at all. Veach will run the show while Reid coaches. They might discuss a player or two here and there but Reid does not make the decisions

Rasputin 07-10-2017 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 12951018)
Walter Football gives the hire a B+.

The good news: Walter Football usually hates every single move the Chiefs make.

The bad news: Walter Football doesn't know their asses from a hole in the ground.

Chiefs hire GM Brett Veach: B+ Grade
The Chiefs weren't expected to fire John Dorsey, but this move was more predictable. The Kansas City Star's Terez Paylor reported that Brett Veach was expected to be named Kansas City's new general manager, and that's exactly what happened.

Veach is a fine hiring. To be more precise, the Chiefs actually promoted Veach, as he was the co-director of player personnel. Veach has worked with Andy Reid for many years; he was once a top scout for the Eagles, so it's nice that the two have an extensive relationship.

In a vacuum, I'd say there were better candidates to be Kansas City's general manager. However, that doesn't matter in this instance because Reid is the one making all of the personnel decisions. Veach will handle the finances and contracts, much like Dorsey did.
Read more at http://walterfootball.com/coachfireh...gq4S3QQJCqI.99

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12951025)
ROFL

The Veach hire is a moot point for firing Dorsey LMAO


Moot

DaneMcCloud 07-10-2017 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12951033)
The Veach hire is a moot point for firing Dorsey LMAO


Moot

I don't know what this means

SAUTO 07-10-2017 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12951035)
I don't know what this means

maybe he meant it was a mute point.



would have made as much sense...

JohnnyHammersticks 07-10-2017 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12951025)
ROFL

I almost put those sentences in bold. They literally run a football-related website without having the slightest clue about anything relating to football.

DaneMcCloud 07-10-2017 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 12951040)
I almost put those sentences in bold. They literally run a football-related website without having the slightest clue about anything relating to football.

Walter's been a dumbass since 1997

beach tribe 07-10-2017 03:54 PM

It's really uncomfortable every time I realize I have to pray to Jesus that our GM knows what he's doing..

Please don't let our drafting go to shit..Please.

staylor26 07-10-2017 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 12951052)
It's really uncomfortable every time I realize I have to pray to Jesus that our GM knows what he's doing..

Please don't let our drafting go to shit..Please.

I highly doubt it will go to shit, but it's going to be tough to match Dorsey's.

In58men 07-10-2017 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12950996)
i was being sarcastic you stupid ****.

how many people have i actually banned? how many people have i actually voted to be banned?

if you dont know the answers to the questions you should shut the **** up.

Notice how you get so defensive? Similarities show more and more.

penbrook 07-10-2017 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12951054)
I highly doubt it will go to shit, but it's going to be tough to match Dorsey's.

You mean the cap situation he left us in. Pioli could do a better job than Dorsey at managing the cap


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