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Mr_Tomahawk 03-06-2014 10:15 PM

Andy Reid's 1st rnd pick history...
 
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Old article...but let's talk about what Andy has done in previous years with the 1st rnd pick...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-andy-reid-era

He has drafted 2 WR's in the 1st....does he go that route again? Or does he stick with the OL/DL where he tends to go most?

TimBone 03-06-2014 10:18 PM

I thought Dorsey had main control? I thought that's something Reid was excited about...coming here to strictly coach and let someone ales make those decisions.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-06-2014 10:24 PM

Maybe.

But let's pretend Andy makes the call for the same of the thread...

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TribalElder 03-06-2014 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flybone McTimmerson (Post 10471366)
I thought Dorsey had main control? I thought that's something Reid was excited about...coming here to strictly coach and let someone ales make those decisions.

This

Don't matter what Andy did

He will be eating jack stack while Dorsey makes a terrible pick, much like last year ROFL

Deberg_1990 03-06-2014 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flybone McTimmerson (Post 10471366)
I thought Dorsey had main control? I thought that's something Reid was excited about...coming here to strictly coach and let someone ales make those decisions.

He does



"But occasionally, even the most mundane question can bring forth a revealing answer, and that’s exactly what happened when Chiefs coach Andy Reid was asked Wednesday if he buys into the hype regarding this being the deepest draft in 20 years.

Reid waited only a split second before answering. He literally could not do it fast enough.

“Uh, I’m probably not deep enough into it, myself,” Reid said, quickly. “That might be a question you ask Dorse tomorrow. But it looks like there’s some good football players.”

Dorse, of course, is Chiefs general manager John Dorsey, the man who allows Reid to focus on football in a way he wasn’t able to during the last several years of his 14-year run as Philadelphia’s head coach, which came to an end after the Eagles went 4-12 in 2012.

“I loved doing it when I did it,” Reid said. “I understand the time commitment and when I was doing that, it took away from the football part of it. I kind of gave up a little bit to do that, football-wise. So now I’m more football-wise and less in the personnel department.”

So when asked about personnel matters with the Chiefs both large and small, Reid has been quick to refer to Dorsey. It’s Reid’s way of making it clear who runs the show and displaying his faith in Dorsey’s draft-centric approach to team building. The two worked together, albeit in different roles, during 1992-98 in Green Bay, which won a Super Bowl in 1997.

“I’ve got a lot of trust in John, No. 1,” Reid said. “Really, that’s the format (owner) Clark (Hunt) wanted, just a general manager doing personnel and the head coach being the head coach.



Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/02/26...#storylink=cpy

Mr_Tomahawk 03-06-2014 10:28 PM

Ok then...

Did "Dorse" play a role in GB's draft? And if so, what were their 1st rnd picks by positions like during his tenure up there?

mcaj22 03-06-2014 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Douchebag (Post 10471382)
Ok then...

Did "Dorse" play a role in GB's draft? And if so, what were their 1st rnd picks by positions like during his tenure up there?

"Aaron Rodgers"

the end.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-06-2014 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10471391)
"Aaron Rodgers"

the end.

Tyler Bray QBoTF

Mr_Tomahawk 03-06-2014 10:36 PM

I don't think Dorsey will go WR in the 1st...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...nd_draft_picks

mcaj22 03-06-2014 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Douchebag (Post 10471394)
Tyler Bray QBoTF

Clay Matthews was a good pick too.

That's about it, the offensive tackles GB took have been injury prone and useless for them. They are about to let BJ Raji walk, so I mean, what's your definition of a good first round pick? AJ Hawk? would you be happy if the Chiefs drafted an AJ Hawk type first rounder? No thanks. So I guess they hit on 2 picks. BJ Raji to them seems to be our version of Tyson Jackson, but a little bit better. GB lacks a lot of talent in the trenches, a playmaker in the backend. The QB carries that team with the WRs, after that, it's slop.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-06-2014 10:38 PM

He will go DE.

mcaj22 03-06-2014 10:40 PM

I'd say dline or oline if I had to guess. (whichever side of the ball they dont get a serviceable veteran FA at.)

tecumseh 03-06-2014 10:54 PM

My guess would be DE. My hope is Dorsey will sign an FA DE and S freeing up the draft ,WR in the first.

Mother****erJones 03-06-2014 11:05 PM

He'll go WR

Chief_For_Life58 03-06-2014 11:26 PM

oline

Chief_For_Life58 03-06-2014 11:28 PM

to be specific, guard

Chief_For_Life58 03-06-2014 11:29 PM

to more specific, Xavier Su'a-Filo

OldSchool 03-06-2014 11:33 PM

Zach Martin would be the best pick if he's there, if we are going OL. Versatile and has All-Pro potential at OG.

Bewbies 03-07-2014 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10471461)
Zach Martin would be the best pick if he's there, if we are going OL. Versatile and has All-Pro potential at OG.

Does he have elite communication skills? Is his presnap importance higher than the QB?

In58men 03-07-2014 12:35 AM

Long snapper should be priority.

Tribal Warfare 03-07-2014 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Douchebag (Post 10471394)
Tyler Bray QBoTF

QFMFT

Dunerdr 03-07-2014 06:08 AM

Bray to Watkins will be beautiful.

TimeForWasp 03-07-2014 06:29 AM

Need a gunner.

OldSchool 03-07-2014 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10471564)
Bray to Watkins will be beautiful.

Cause we're trading Bray to the Browns?:spock:

RunKC 03-07-2014 07:19 AM

Dorsey said the trenches are the soul of a football team, or some shit like that. I think it's pretty clear that we're going OL if that's the case

htismaqe 03-07-2014 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10471397)
Clay Matthews was a good pick too.

That's about it, the offensive tackles GB took have been injury prone and useless for them. They are about to let BJ Raji walk, so I mean, what's your definition of a good first round pick? AJ Hawk? would you be happy if the Chiefs drafted an AJ Hawk type first rounder? No thanks. So I guess they hit on 2 picks. BJ Raji to them seems to be our version of Tyson Jackson, but a little bit better. GB lacks a lot of talent in the trenches, a playmaker in the backend. The QB carries that team with the WRs, after that, it's slop.

This.

Jimmya 03-07-2014 07:20 AM

NFL Radio says Andy Reid doesn't have a good draft history. Makes me happy to know that he isn't making the picks.

BlackHelicopters 03-07-2014 07:30 AM

O Line,

OldSchool 03-07-2014 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10471577)
Dorsey said the trenches are the soul of a football team, or some shit like that. I think it's pretty clear that we're going OL if that's the case

Yup, Reid believes in that too. It shows in both their drafting history honestly. If the trenches aren't set, they won't go elsewhere with that pick unless the value is just way too good to pass up. They value the trenches right after QB. Right now we have question marks at RG and at OT.

Mugsy 03-07-2014 07:43 AM

If we don't re-sign Schwartz, o-line will probably be the first pick.

htismaqe 03-07-2014 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10471580)
NFL Radio says Andy Reid doesn't have a good draft history. Makes me happy to know that he isn't making the picks.

You're naive if you think Andy Reid doesn't have a say in who we pick.

OldSchool 03-07-2014 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugsy (Post 10471613)
If we don't re-sign Schwartz, o-line will probably be the first pick.

Or at least bring back Asamoah. I don't know if he'll want to come back to the place where he was benched though.

Mugsy 03-07-2014 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10471616)
You're naive if you think Andy Reid doesn't have a say in who we pick.

He definitely has a say but I don't think he wants to have much of one. He seems like he really doesn't want much to do with personnel anymore. I think Dorsey knows what Andy wants. I'd say when it comes to draft picks it's 90% Dorsey and 10% Reid.

htismaqe 03-07-2014 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugsy (Post 10471648)
He definitely has a say but I don't think he wants to have much of one. He seems like he really doesn't want much to do with personnel anymore. I think Dorsey knows what Andy wants. I'd say when it comes to draft picks it's 90% Dorsey and 10% Reid.

If Dorsey is going by what Andy wants, Andy has much more influence than 10%. His influence is inherent in the approach.

BlackHelicopters 03-07-2014 08:31 AM

Glad we have Dorsey.


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