Official 2012-2013 NBA Thread
Looks like James Harden has been To the Rockets for Jeremey Lamb, Kevin Martin and future picks. Plus... this is a general NBA thread.
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God ****ing damnit mother ****er!!!!!
Oh well. We had no choice. |
It's good we traded him instead of watching him leave in free agency
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Well...that's a bad trade for OKC. Their team just took a serious value hit today....Harden was one of the best players in the NBA last season when he was on the court (see his rate stats).
Who's going to beat the Heat this year now? The answer would seem to be nobody. |
I love Lamb's upside, but Martin is a terrible fit there.
Harden is going to be a stud there. |
Lol, I was looking for a thread to post this in, but couldn't find one. This was going to be my opportunity to really add something that hadn't been posted already!!! Mr. Bundy, you have ruined my breakthrough, shining moment.
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Why not make this move at the deadline? I mean, Harden was essential to their success in the post-season. He was a matchup nightmare from the standpoint he could dominate the ball, and he was probably the best at attacking the basket late in games when teams were worried about Durant on the wing.
Kevin Martin is a nice spot up shooter, but he offers little else. Thunder will be fine, but I think the Lakers are clearly the favorites now in the West. |
Cole Aldrich is involved in the trade too! Why don't you mention that, hmm?
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OKC trades Harden to Houston, and sign-and-trades the Western Conference Championship to the Lakers. |
I love Harden, but once the shock wore off I like the trade. A first from Toronto will be a lottery pick. The first from Dallas could be a decent pick. I like Lamb, and Martin can at least provide scoring off the bench. I love getting rid of Cook, Cole and Hayward.
We now have 2 open roster spots. I think there maybe more trades coming. If we stay pat, we won't be as good this year, but the long term looks better. They offered him 55 today and he took 60 from the Rockets. Really, don't understand it from Hardens perspective at all. I guess he wants to be the man. We'll see how he handles it |
I don't know about the Toronto lottery thing. I like the squad they have put together. Really good PG, front court is upgraded with the young center that I can't spell his name.
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I thought they would give that team at least a few years. I guess Harden wanted to start. i really cant blame him and his stance, but damn, as a laker fan, this is great.
Anyways, season starts in 2 days, lets do it! LAKERS! |
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I think I'm more concerned about how this effects chemistry than anything. Harden isn't a good defender, and not a max guy IMO. Westbrook and Ibaka took a little less to keep it together. I'm pretty shocked Harden wasn't willing to do so. It's better to trade him with 3 throw away players now for a couple of scorers, and give yourself time to play together than do it midseason. Then you have a couple of picks to package or keep.
It will be interesting to see how Harden handles the spotlight. I really like the guy and hope he succeeds. I thought the Lakers were the favorites in the West anyway, so nothing changes there. |
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That's 2 of the top 5 players in the NBA. 2 of the top 10 defenders in the NBA. In 2 years, they are also both still under 30. They wouldn't be the only pieces there either. LeBron has never played with a dominant big like him. |
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#17 may be coming soon, but I doubt it's going to happen as long as LeBron is playing for the Heat. |
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Of course they would need another scorer. |
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Lol no. Dwight has more talent in his pinky toe than the rest of the Cleveland teams combined. We're talking about teams where Ilgauskas was the 2nd best player after LeBron. |
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There's no question the Thunder took a hit at their 2013 championship hopes tonight with this loss. What they do with that freed up money will determine whether it will be a hit in the future years beyond that. |
I think I'm going to be a Bucks fan this year. They need a fan.
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Steve Nash will have the only active contract for the Lakers in 2014 (if he hasn't retired already). LeBron and Dwight having max deals still leaves room for at least 1 more top 15 guy and a few MLE type players.
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Think he's an expiring contract in 2013. |
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Lamb is nice, but how the Thunder adjust late in games will be very interesting. |
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I go look at the Lakers roster and I totally forgot they still had Pau Gasol. Yeah, they're winning the West.
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And once again my Bulls didn't do shit to be taken seriously. Poor Rose.
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This really ruined my evening. I love Harden.
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[QUOTE=KC_Connection;9055607]He should. He's the best player in the NBA by far
Really? Really. Really? |
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While the Lakers are no doubt the favorites, I refuse to completely count out any team that has Kevin Durant on it.
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I like the trade to be honest. Harden, as good of a player as he is isnt worth a max contract. The Thunder already have scoring. Thats not the problem, so I kinda feel Ibaka was more important to keep. As has already been said, Martin is a nice stop gap player and should be useful as a scorer. Thabo is going to start anyway. Lamb has as much potential as anybody in last yrs draft. Best part about this is the two draft picks.PJ3 looks like a stud in the making. If you let Harden walk, you get nothing. If you do it at the trade deadline you mess up team chemistry. And, I dont buy that the Lakers are a shoe in for the NBA finals. As seen with the Heat, it can take teams luke this a couple yrs to jell right and the lakers just dont have that time. I honestly think OKC got the better end of this deal. Remember this is a Houston team who played Chase Budinger all year, doesnt let Marcus Morris play, and overpaid for the asian tim tebow.
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Unless LeBron gets hurt he will championships until Durant turns 28. That is when the torch will pass.
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harden isn't a franchise player, that's an excellent trade....OKC found a desperate team and fleeced them...
and harden not wanting to stay on a championship caliber team for 4 mill over the life of the contract is just stupid...have fun failing to meet expectations in houston being #3 behind durant and westbrook was the sweetest gig in the nba...ego is a terrible thing |
I also disagree that Harden is not worth what he's asking. Only LeBron, Durant, and Paul had a better win share per 48 minute rate than Harden last season (http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_2012.html) While that will likely decline with more playing time and playing more of a primary role rather than a tertiary one, he's a great player. If OKC isn't going to give him the money, somebody else will and they'll reap the benefits of his production.
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we'll find out... |
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anyways, time willl tell....i think okc bent houston over...very smart move by the GM...he made a legit offer, and then maximized harden's value in a trade |
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