More Branden Albert talk: Why we should give him a fat contract if he plays guard
I think at this point the Chiefs need to go this direction with him rather than working to trade him. He's a valuable offensive linemen whether you think he's top 5, top 15, or even just meh. The Chiefs as of late haven't exactly been very lucky with drafting guards and finding replacements via free agency. The interior line needs to either do some gelling or we need to seek out replacements. Albert at LG (or RT) would help out tremendously.
I think we can afford to pay Albert what he wanted to play LT in Miami, and just make him one of the highest paid guards or RTs in the game. From the sportrac link that patteeu posted, here are the average salaries of the top 5 guards: Carl Nicks (Bucs) $9,500,000 Logan Mankins (Pats) $8,500,000 Jahri Evans (Saints) $8,100,000 Andy Levitre (Titans) $7,800,000 Davin Joseph (Bucs) $7,500,000 I can't remember the exact figures Albert was supposedly seeking from Miami, but I believe it was around 5 years 50 million? 50-55 million? Andy Levitre signed a 5 year 60 million with 27.5 million guaranteed. Depending on the guaranteed money, Albert would still receive less than that. We also need to pay other players. However, perhaps not quite so immediately. We're in fairly good shape for the next two years. 2016 is a cluster****ing mess, but we're doing okay in the meantime: Quote:
However, given the expected ages of some of these players in 2016, I still think we're in okay shape. An extension wouldn't be as big of a deal if we still wanted to keep them around at a lower veteran salary. Or, we could just let them walk, which may need to happen especially with Hali, Johnson, or even Charles (no telling what wear and tear a RB will sustain in the coming years) Essentially, I think it boils down to two MUST re-sign players: Eric Berry and Justin Houston. It's possible to keep guys we (may) like such as Asamoah, Hudson, Schwartz, and Poe. But for only two players that will demand some sizeable contracts, that's not bad. It's why I think especially after some rich deals like Hali's and Alex Smith's are either re-structured or taken off, we can afford to keep Albert on a fat deal. And given the headache of trying to trade his ass, we could also just let him walk after this year, but I think he can still be pretty damn valuable to this team. The key is of course if Albert is content with hush money. Time will tell if he backs down from his stance of "I'm a LT, damn it!" |
Lots more money will come on the cap in 14 due to the TV deals.
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Joseph got a 7 year, $52 million dollar contract. I'd give Albert a 5 year, $40 million dollar contract to play LG or RT.
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Will he do it though?
there is money and there is ego If Albert would be ok at competing with Fisher for LT/RT as long as he gets his 9 million per then i'm ok with it. but if he is going to reluctantly take the deal and then pout about it ... **** it. If Albert goes to LG then what happens to Schwartz/Asomoah? |
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Pay the man !
I don't care what it costs, it's not my money ! We need the best line we can get and keeping Albert makes our line better. |
unrelated, but i look at those 2014-15 lists and see 2 maybe 3 people that i give a shit at all about keeping...thanks, scott
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why would they? |
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What the (potential) Albert contract does is fills that hole at LG once and for all. No more old man Liljas, and no more worrying about rookies who can't hack it. We could also play him at RT if it's that big of a deal. Or, the other option is to simply play the best linemen we have. Asamoah has been good, but if Schwartz is an improvement over him and Albert is an improvement over Schwartz, we may have to just let Asamoah go to another team. In any case, both Schwartz and Asamoah are done with their contracts in 2014. They have one year left. If we can save some money in not having to give people new contracts, that might be where we concentrate our effort. |
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It could come out that BA is totally at fault in all of this, but we hardly have all the facts. |
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worry about replacing terrance copper?
more like "bye" |
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Maybe the initial offers were so far apart they didn't negotiate for very long, but i don't see why they wouldn't negotiate at all. |
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We don't really know and that is my point with BA being painted as the bad guy in all of this. |
My only gut ache with this is we have no idea if Albert can play guard at a high level in the NFL. He was good in college but has played the last 5 years at LT and adjusted his weight accordingly. He might prove to just be adequate, not great, which wouldn't justify the huge contract.
Also, it's hilarious (or sad, not sure which) that after five years of hearing "move Albert to guard and draft a LT" it looks like it may happen. |
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'we didn't hear about it' isn't a reason only reasons i can think of are: 1. back is really a problem 2. high money demands 3. money demands don't match Albert's skill in their opinion either way they had to talk to Albert ... at least some |
Why Branden Albert should negotiate with the Chiefs.
1. He is currently employed by the Chiefs. 2. The Chiefs have committed to paying him $9MM next year. 3. His value may never be higher. It's in his best interest to get a long-term deal now, not a year from know. His value nose dives if he has more back problems or gets hurt. Why the Chiefs need to deal openly with Albert. 1. Albert is a current employee. 2. They have a lot of money ($9MM) invested in him. 3. With Fisher now a Chief, Albert's leverage is minimal. 4. Offer him a long-term deal as a LG or RT. 5. If he balks ask him what he finds more offensive. The fact that the Dolphins would only offer the 54th pick in the draft for him, or that his current team is willing to invest $45 million over a number of years but asks that he plays a new position, which could actually prolong his career. The Chiefs actually present Albert's best deal as far as his career in the NFL goes. |
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Nor should it. |
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Albert is a whiny bitch, but he is using the Only leverage he can in the NFL. I would send him to KCI sooner rather than later.
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What will you do at the end of the Albert contract when Fisher is due to get paid and you just paid your RT $45MM? I am not saying you can't pay your 2 tackles $12-15MM a year combined but that $ could be spent in other places. |
If you're going to move him, move him to guard.
LT: Fisher LG: Albert C: Hudson RG: Asamoah RT: open competition between Allen, Schwartz, and Stephenson |
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And the best part is all that is getting done while Fisher plays at a much smaller price. |
Keep in mind Hali has a huge cap # next year as well.
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Why do we think he will succeed at G?
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I'm just not understanding why his current skillset would translate to guard very well. |
Because he was an outstanding guard at Virginia.
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Gallery was a much better guard, Chris Williams, was a much better guard. |
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Oh, and to top it off the fans call him not a team player. Albert has been treated like ****ing shit by this team, and if I were him I'd be the same way. All he's doing is trying to retain some semblance of dignity and status by staying at LT, and the team by tagging him and then failing to send him to somebody else is preventing him from doing so. If Albert quits on them, the Chiefs are the only ones to blame. |
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You sign Albert to a deal that mirrors Fishers. By the time that happens Albert will have been in the league for 10 years and you move on and sign Fisher to a long term deal so long as he panned out how people expect. |
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LT: Fisher LG: Albert C: Hudson RG: competition b/w Schwartz & Asamoah RT: open competition between Allen and Stephenson |
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FWIW, Schwartz said he was more comfortable at and preferred to play guard. He wasnt a butthurt baby about it like Albert though
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At this point I would have rather them kept Winston and let Albert walk
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Fisher at LT and Albert at LG would be sick.
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No, you didn't. You mindless sack of homer shit. |
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Not at all. According to PFF, he's allowed less pressure than Duane Brown the last two years. Pretty ****ing awesome! |
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INTs aren't an important stat for a QB?
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So then why is Albert rated overall so low on PFF? Either you or they are full of it
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Total pressure allowed defines a LT. |
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We need to pay him so people can give 0 ****s about it in six months. Because that's literally what would happen. |
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What a piece of $3it... |
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