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SeeingRed 04-01-2014 09:56 PM

DeSean Jackson Is Officially A Redskin
 
have just agreed to terms via rotoworld

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...desean-jackson

Eleazar 04-01-2014 10:00 PM

3 years supposedly

alpha_omega 04-01-2014 10:00 PM

Ok , Movin on.

kcxiv 04-01-2014 10:01 PM

But but they always follow the money

TLO 04-01-2014 10:02 PM

We didn't want that thug on our team anyway, amirite?!?!?1$

Iconic 04-01-2014 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10533405)
But but they always follow the money

Dan Snyder

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2014 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10533405)
But but they always follow the money

Reports say its a boatload he got from skins.

kcxiv 04-01-2014 10:05 PM

What about him they didn't have much cap space. He could have went to Oakland and got paid,


Oh well. Not like we needed a WR anyways

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2014 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10533413)
What about him they didn't have much cap space. He could have went to Oakland and got paid,


Oh well. Not like we needed a WR anyways

Skin had around 7m in cap

kcxiv 04-01-2014 10:06 PM

Unless they got money coming off next year they pulled some trickery

kcxiv 04-01-2014 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10533416)
Skin had around 23m in cap

I could have sworn I seen 6.5 earlier today

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2014 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10533418)
I could have sworn I seen 6.5 earlier today

Yeah fixed my post

Mother****erJones 04-01-2014 10:14 PM

Playmaker falls into our lap and we don't go for it. Typical

Sassy Squatch 04-01-2014 10:15 PM

LMAO here comes the screaming and stamping of feet.

Simply Red 04-01-2014 10:15 PM

Chiefs only sign real gangsters.

Iconic 04-01-2014 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10533413)
What about him they didn't have much cap space. He could have went to Oakland and got paid,


Oh well. Not like we needed a WR anyways

They restructured someone. Jackson didn't come cheap.

cdcox 04-01-2014 10:21 PM

Joins Hugh Douglas in the Chiefs-near-miss-free-agent HOF.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2014 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 10533431)
LMAO here comes the screaming and stamping of feet.

Not by me anymore, I've said my peace.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2014 10:23 PM

Redskins also signed Ryan Clark. Salary Cap is bullshit

SeeingRed 04-01-2014 10:29 PM

The real effect on us with this move is that Phili may now go WR at pick #22

SeeingRed 04-01-2014 10:31 PM

OG is starting to seem more possible. Its not an exciting pick for fans but it may be the smartest pick depending on what WR is still left when it gets to us.

chiefzilla1501 04-01-2014 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10533445)
Redskins also signed Ryan Clark. Salary Cap is bullshit

And how many teams that constantly restructure and buy free agents end up having more than 2 or 3 year windows?

Mother****erJones 04-01-2014 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10533457)
And how many teams that constantly restructure and buy free agents end up having more than 2 or 3 year windows?

What you think we got? Only a couple years with our core.

Priest31kc 04-01-2014 10:35 PM

Jeff McLane @Jeff_McLane
Redskins didn't have much cap space ($6.3 mil) but did have cash, as @AlbertBreer noted. With bonus may have gotten close to $9-10 mil/year.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2014 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeingRed (Post 10533454)
OG is starting to seem more possible. Its not an exciting pick for fans but it may be the smartest pick depending on what WR is still left when it gets to us.

JFC :facepalm:

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2014 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10533459)
What you think we got? Only a couple years with our core.

That's the NFL for ya

WhiteWhale 04-01-2014 10:37 PM

Let's all wring our hands. Redskins win free agency again, and that means they'll be back in the super bowl like they are every season.

Iconic 04-01-2014 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 10533460)
Jeff McLane @Jeff_McLane
Redskins didn't have much cap space ($6.3 mil) but did have cash, as @AlbertBreer noted. With bonus may have gotten close to $9-10 mil/year.

This is exactly why I was so curious about Clark and his ownership of the franchise. He can't do things like this because it's not all his money... I think this is something we will just have to live with as Chiefs fans.

DTLB58 04-01-2014 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeingRed (Post 10533454)
OG is starting to seem more possible. Its not an exciting pick for fans but it may be the smartest pick depending on what WR is still left when it gets to us.

We got Schwartz last season off the scrap heap and he turned into a perfectly good starter.

The 1st rd is for player makers!

Mr. Laz 04-01-2014 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10533413)
What about him they didn't have much cap space. He could have went to Oakland and got paid,


Oh well. Not like we needed a WR anyways

again ... cap space can be 'made'

Titty Meat 04-01-2014 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 10533431)
LMAO here comes the screaming and stamping of feet.

Why do you hate the chiefs?

chiefzilla1501 04-01-2014 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10533459)
What you think we got? Only a couple years with our core.

A "core" that was critical to getting us how many playoff wins exactly?

Mother****erJones 04-01-2014 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10533510)
A "core" that was critical to getting us how many playoff wins exactly?

It's our ****ing core nonetheless.

chiefzilla1501 04-01-2014 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10533501)
again ... cap space can be 'made'

Cap space can be made if you defer it to future years. It doesn't disappear.

We all have had discussions about how signing a QB like Eli and Flacco is a tough decision because it ruins the ability to build around that QB. Does that argument suddenly change because it's convenient? Or would we agree that you can't just magically make a contract disappear.

chiefzilla1501 04-01-2014 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10533512)
It's our ****ing core nonetheless.

Teams like Denver and New England and New Orleans are putting all their eggs in their basket to protect a core that includes Peyton, Brady, and Brees… three unique HOF talents who can single-handedly carry a team to a Super Bowl and each of whom has won at least one.

The Chiefs are putting their eggs into the basket of a RB and a pass rusher who have never won a playoff game.

Umm… yeah. No. Do we overrate our core much?

Rain Man 04-01-2014 11:37 PM

Wait a minute. Red is the Bloods' colors. I thought he was a Crip. He should have signed with Detroit or Tennessee.

kcxiv 04-01-2014 11:53 PM

We got Donnie Avery, AJ Jenkins ,Wesson dressler, and slowstep Bowe lol. We got this

kcxiv 04-01-2014 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10533521)
Teams like Denver and New England and New Orleans are putting all their eggs in their basket to protect a core that includes Peyton, Brady, and Brees… three unique HOF talents who can single-handedly carry a team to a Super Bowl and each of whom has won at least one.

The Chiefs are putting their eggs into the basket of a RB and a pass rusher who have never won a playoff game.

Umm… yeah. No. Do we overrate our core much?

what ur saying and what he's saying are 2 different things. Regardless of whatever the Chiefs trying to win the Superbowl the hardest possible way and the core of that way are starting to get up there in age.

J Diddy 04-01-2014 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10533521)
Teams like Denver and New England and New Orleans are putting all their eggs in their basket to protect a core that includes Peyton, Brady, and Brees… three unique HOF talents who can single-handedly carry a team to a Super Bowl and each of whom has won at least one.

The Chiefs are putting their eggs into the basket of a RB and a pass rusher who have never won a playoff game.

Umm… yeah. No. Do we overrate our core much?

With all due respect I think the eggs that the chiefs hold are being put into Alex Smith's basket. 2 number twos, a more than likely contract extension, etc. In terms of the running back who never won a playoff game went out in the first half of the playoff game and was doing just fine. The pass rusher you speak of is a young ascending star.

splatbass 04-02-2014 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10533430)
Playmaker falls into our lap and we don't go for it. Typical

At what point did he "fall into our lap"? There were a bunch of teams interested, even if we had gone after him there is no guarantee that we would have gotten him. That is a far cry from "falls into our lap".

Dave Lane 04-02-2014 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeingRed (Post 10533454)
OG is starting to seem more possible. Its not an exciting pick for fans but it may be the smartest pick depending on what WR is still left when it gets to us.

It's awesome to be a chiefs fan. Next year we can get a long snapper in the first if the cards fall just right.

Dave Lane 04-02-2014 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 10533547)
At what point did he "fall into our lap"? There were a bunch of teams interested, even if we had gone after him there is no guarantee that we would have gotten him. That is a far cry from "falls into our lap".

How about becomes available without trading a 2nd round pick?

thabear04 04-02-2014 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10533544)
We got Donnie Avery, AJ Jenkins ,Wesson dressler, and slowstep Bowe lol. We got this

Does it feel weird saying we don't got McMidget no more.

splatbass 04-02-2014 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10533561)
How about becomes available without trading a 2nd round pick?

That doesn't really answer my question. Jackson in no way fell into our lap. He became a free agent, with as many as 9 teams being interested at various times.

chiefzilla1501 04-02-2014 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10533545)
what ur saying and what he's saying are 2 different things. Regardless of whatever the Chiefs trying to win the Superbowl the hardest possible way and the core of that way are starting to get up there in age.

He and anyone pushing for guys like Desean Jackson are basically pushing for the Chiefs to go all in to win now with this core, even if that means a painful rebuild 3 years from now. We keep talking about this core as if we have a bunch of irreplaceable guys. Charles and Hali are really tough guys to lose. Most of the others are borderline pro bowlers and not even close to being the best at their position. I like our core but it isn't nearly as good as people claim it is.

splatbass 04-02-2014 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10533568)
He and anyone pushing for guys like Desean Jackson are basically pushing for the Chiefs to go all in to win now with this core, even if that means a painful rebuild 3 years from now.

Some of these guys want us to go all in every year. They are incapable of thinking of the future or the consequences of going all in. They only care about instant gratification.

Smed1065 04-02-2014 01:08 AM

As usual, they path is a winner........

Smed1065 04-02-2014 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065 (Post 10533585)
As usual, they path is a winner........

Too cheap and didn't need it.......

Bring it other views.

chiefzilla1501 04-02-2014 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 10533582)
Some of these guys want us to go all in every year. They are incapable of thinking of the future or the consequences of going all in. They only care about instant gratification.

I mean, some parts I get. Trading for Alex Smith for 2 seconds is instant gratification. The Chiefs went instant gratification last year and are choosing not to this year. The part I disagree with is when people talk about our core as if they are some kind of dream team. Apart from Hali and Charles, most of the guys we're talking about aren't even CLOSE to being the best at their position.

Smed1065 04-02-2014 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10533432)
Chiefs only sign real gangsters.

Like you follow FB. STFU U just want a reaction from elsewhere.

Smed1065 04-02-2014 02:17 AM

Nice job but forgot you are a troll when it counts. Have a great life. Hope you learn football for the next 3 years as well.

Would be an improvement....

Smed1065 04-02-2014 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10533417)
Unless they got money coming off next year they pulled some trickery

Yeah the hoax after 1977. Idiot 2 EZ.

Sassy Squatch 04-02-2014 03:09 AM

Jesus, what the **** is Smed on?

keg in kc 04-02-2014 04:29 AM

Disappointing if unsurprising.

stonedstooge 04-02-2014 04:31 AM

Last year playoff/this year PAYOFF/CHunt

Jimmya 04-02-2014 04:46 AM

You must try to win every year.... Before you know it.... Some of you will be crying because Alex Smith is to old.

BigBeauford 04-02-2014 04:55 AM

Noooo seppuku!

Messier 04-02-2014 05:05 AM

I still think once the Raiders send that personal jet to pick him up he'll go to Oakland. Right?

Messier 04-02-2014 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 10533615)
Last year playoff/this year PAYOFF/CHunt

0-16

Simply Red 04-02-2014 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smed1065 (Post 10533600)
Like you follow FB. STFU U just want a reaction from elsewhere.

Yeah I don't even have facebook you drunk clown - I see you're knee deep in the bottle at 4AM again - nice job bud.

Sassy Squatch 04-02-2014 05:13 AM

3 years 24 million with 16 guaranteed.

Mother****erJones 04-02-2014 05:28 AM

3 yrs 24 mil 16 guaranteed.

DeezNutz 04-02-2014 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 10533628)
3 years 24 million with 16 guaranteed.

That hurts. Great value for a talent like Jackson.

Cannibal 04-02-2014 05:32 AM

Sounds like a reasonable contract.

TribalElder 04-02-2014 05:41 AM

http://c15065204.r4.cf2.rackcdn.com/.../spud_shit.jpg

Mecca 04-02-2014 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 10533582)
Some of these guys want us to go all in every year. They are incapable of thinking of the future or the consequences of going all in. They only care about instant gratification.

Instant gratification...A team that hasn't won a playoff game since I was 13 and you claim instant gratification are you kidding me. I have a kid older than I was last time they won a playoff game.

The Chiefs are always second fiddle whether it comes to not being able to draft right or never signing a free agent worth a shit, it's ****in lame after awhile.

Mecca 04-02-2014 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 10533431)
LMAO here comes the screaming and stamping of feet.

Nah more the rationalization of the move like somehow he sucks or we don't need him.

Simply Red 04-02-2014 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 10533639)
Instant gratification...A team that hasn't won a playoff game since I was 13 and you claim instant gratification are you kidding me. I have a kid older than I was last time they won a playoff game.

The Chiefs are always second fiddle whether it comes to not being able to draft right or never signing a free agent worth a shit, it's ****in lame after awhile.




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Mother****erJones 04-02-2014 05:55 AM

I really hope we got WR or TE in rd 1. Load up on playmakers

htismaqe 04-02-2014 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10533619)
You must try to win every year.... Before you know it.... Some of you will be crying because Alex Smith is to old.

Yep.

htismaqe 04-02-2014 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10533568)
He and anyone pushing for guys like Desean Jackson are basically pushing for the Chiefs to go all in to win now with this core, even if that means a painful rebuild 3 years from now. We keep talking about this core as if we have a bunch of irreplaceable guys. Charles and Hali are really tough guys to lose. Most of the others are borderline pro bowlers and not even close to being the best at their position. I like our core but it isn't nearly as good as people claim it is.

People talk about this painful rebuild like we haven't been through it...TWICE...

In the last ****ing 8 years!

And we've got NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT.

ROFL

htismaqe 04-02-2014 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 10533639)
Instant gratification...A team that hasn't won a playoff game since I was 13 and you claim instant gratification are you kidding me. I have a kid older than I was last time they won a playoff game.

The Chiefs are always second fiddle whether it comes to not being able to draft right or never signing a free agent worth a shit, it's ****in lame after awhile.

You gotta think about the future. You know, like we've been doing since the early 1970's.

the Talking Can 04-02-2014 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 10533628)
3 years 24 million with 16 guaranteed.

super ****ing cheap for a guy that just dropped 1,300 yards and 9tds


the first good signing by the redskins...ever

PRIEST 04-02-2014 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10533675)
You gotta think about the future. You know, like we've been doing since the early 1970's.

Yep , with no end insight !:grr:

milkman 04-02-2014 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10533587)
I mean, some parts I get. Trading for Alex Smith for 2 seconds is instant gratification. The Chiefs went instant gratification last year and are choosing not to this year. The part I disagree with is when people talk about our core as if they are some kind of dream team. Apart from Hali and Charles, most of the guys we're talking about aren't even CLOSE to being the best at their position.

Seriuosly, your spin is getting more ****ing ridiculous every ****ing day.

The Patriots won 3 SBs with a cast of players that weren't anywhere close to the best at their positions.

The Steelers won 2.

Winning championships is about finding the right pieces to fit around your core.
This core group is good enough to win with.

duncan_idaho 04-02-2014 07:54 AM

That contract is criminally insignificant.

As pointed out, the Chiefs could have easily found cap space to make that work. For a 27-year-old stud playmaker, still in his prime, with ties to KC's head coach?

I mean, if you're not willing to make things happen to create cap space for THAT difference maker, you're not willing to do it for any.

The Franchise 04-02-2014 08:00 AM

We couldn't afford that? Bullshit.

TRR 04-02-2014 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10533730)
That contract is criminally insignificant.

As pointed out, the Chiefs could have easily found cap space to make that work. For a 27-year-old stud playmaker, still in his prime, with ties to KC's head coach?

I mean, if you're not willing to make things happen to create cap space for THAT difference maker, you're not willing to do it for any.

Agree. KC has decided to sit out the free agency period. With a limited amount of picks, it will be hard to see this years team finishing anywhere near last years. I can't remember a time where FA removed so many players away without doing anything to plug the hole they left.
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Mr_Tomahawk 04-02-2014 08:05 AM

LOL at the Raiders.

Snapplez 04-02-2014 08:05 AM

Huge steal for the Redskins


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