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The Rick 03-09-2015 06:47 AM

Hudson to Oakland
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Rodney Hudson is going to Oakland. $44.5M on a 5 year deal. Someone taking the Raiders&#39; money.</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/574913916851089408">March 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Hudson turned down $6m a year from KC during the season. Chiefs hoped to keep him. One of top OL on market.</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/574914126713110528">March 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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SAUTO 03-09-2015 06:50 AM

5 year 44.5 million



bye

Rausch 03-09-2015 06:51 AM

****...

O.city 03-09-2015 06:51 AM

Yeah, good luck rod

ct 03-09-2015 06:51 AM

Welp, Cam Erving it is then

WhawhaWhat 03-09-2015 06:51 AM

$9 mil a year. Good work Raiders.

ct 03-09-2015 06:51 AM

Hate to see him go but that's too much

kcchiefsus 03-09-2015 06:51 AM

****er should catch a stray bullet in that shitty ****ing town.

TEX 03-09-2015 06:52 AM

Bye-bye Hudson... Chris Meyers is available and he can still play at a high level. He was the anchor of many very good Texans OL's. Might be a good stop-gap. Id look into it if I were in need of a Center.

Cheater5 03-09-2015 06:52 AM

This blows. Our O line has been, and will continue to be dog excrement.

milkman 03-09-2015 06:53 AM

Guess he can climb on that stack of money to enhance his view from the bottom.

Coochie liquor 03-09-2015 06:53 AM

Wow, welcome to Loserville, Hudson. At least you won't have to worry about losing playof games.... Cuz you won't be playing in any, anymore!!

Shogun 03-09-2015 06:54 AM

Can't turn down that much money. Damn.

Rausch 03-09-2015 06:54 AM

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the Talking Can 03-09-2015 06:55 AM

that's a blow, but you can't give him $9 mill

this GM should be able to figure out how to field a league average OL next year regardless

BigMeatballDave 03-09-2015 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11370107)
5 year 44.5 million



bye

8.9m per. **** that.

Hope he's looking forward to Poe kicking his ass twice a year.

ChiTown 03-09-2015 06:58 AM

The Good News is that we already had an excellent OL and plenty of depth...................

Old Dog 03-09-2015 06:58 AM

Hate to see him go, but there's no way KC could (or should) pay that.

the Talking Can 03-09-2015 06:59 AM

eric fisher is now our best OL




and he sucks

Fish 03-09-2015 06:59 AM

$9M for a center?

Bye bye....................

Bootlegged 03-09-2015 06:59 AM

:clap:

Watch Poe eat him for the next 4 years.

Old Dog 03-09-2015 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 11370121)
this GM should be able to figure out how to field a league average OL next year regardless

That would be one hell of an improvement from last season

Buehler445 03-09-2015 06:59 AM

JFC.

Would have liked to keep him, but not for $9M per.

BigMeatballDave 03-09-2015 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 11370126)
eric fisher is now our best OL




and he sucks

I'd say Allen, but he sucks, too.

Imon Yourside 03-09-2015 07:00 AM

Because..faiders...... LMAO

Rausch 03-09-2015 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11370130)
JFC.

Would have liked to keep him, but not for $9M per.

There are teams out there like Oakland with reeruned cap money to spend.

We needed to lock up our players during the year and didn't get it done this time...

Coochie liquor 03-09-2015 07:01 AM

Faiders gotta spend their cap money somewhere. May as well over pay for the few players who might actually come to Jokeland.

the Talking Can 03-09-2015 07:03 AM

$9 mill a year to split between Maclin and Houston....had to do it

mcaj22 03-09-2015 07:03 AM

9 mil for a center will surely tip the scales in Oaklands favor for first place!

milkman 03-09-2015 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 11370126)
eric fisher is now our best OL




and he sucks

I hate the Fisher pick, and unless he becomes the next Willie Roaf, there's no way that pick can be justified.

That said, we really should see a big jump in his progression this upcoming season.

BigMeatballDave 03-09-2015 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11370134)
There are teams out there like Oakland with reeruned cap money to spend.

We needed to lock up our players during the year and didn't get it done this time...

I'd much rather spend that $9m on Maclin.

the Talking Can 03-09-2015 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11370142)
I hate the Fisher pick, and unless he becomes the next Willie Roafn ther's no way that pick can be justified.

That said, we really should see a big jump in his progression this upcoming season.

hey, like i said...Dorsey has to find a way to field a league average OL...with the bodies and draft picks he has, that should be feasible

Rausch 03-09-2015 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11370144)
I'd much rather spend that $9m on Maclin.

As long as it isn't Houston money...

BigMeatballDave 03-09-2015 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11370142)
I hate the Fisher pick, and unless he becomes the next Willie Roaf, there's no way that pick can be justified.

Huge expectations, and unreasonable to expect that.

A 10-12 yr solid starter is good enough for me.

BigMeatballDave 03-09-2015 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11370147)
As long as it isn't Houston money...

That's for next year.

kcchiefsus 03-09-2015 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 11370145)
hey, like i said...Dorsey has to find a way to field a league average OL...with the bodies and draft picks he has, that should be feasible

Should have been feasible last year too. Instead he let average linemen walk away in free agency and replaced them with well below average linemen.

One of the worst lines in the league lost it's best player. If we're depending on rookies to improve the line then we're going to be disappointed IMO. Hell, look at Rodney Hudson. It took him a while to get to the point this year where he was one of the better centers. He was below average for a while before he got to this point.

We've spent countless early round picks on OL over the past several drafts and we've got shit to show for it.

Eric Fisher - 1st
Jeff Allen - 2nd
Rodney Hudson - 2nd
Jon Asamoah - 3rd

Two of them are gone now and the ones that remain either suck or simply aren't that good.

Not sure what point I'm trying to make beyond. I guess we simply suck at trying to build an offensive line.

KCUnited 03-09-2015 07:11 AM

Kush hits the FA market in 2017, anyone in this draft we can eyeball as his replacement?

redshirt32 03-09-2015 07:12 AM

paying veteran WR/CB money for a center Cobb 10mil per year/ Flowers 9 mil per

Cats good but dam you cant argue with his play he flat levels players down field, but has no Tds or Ints.

Sign Maclin trade down in the first get Erving as OT not center pick up a good center rd4 or 5.

kcchiefsus 03-09-2015 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redshirt32 (Post 11370153)
paying veteran WR/CB money for a center Cobb 10mil per year/ Flowers 9 mil per

Cats good but dam you cant argue with his play he flat levels players down field, but has no Tds or Ints.

Sign Maclin trade down in the first get Erving as OT not center pick up a good center rd4 or 5.

I guess that's the plan if you want to see Alex Smith continue to get killed.

PunkinDrublic 03-09-2015 07:14 AM

Still sucks to see him go. Remember how many centers we went through before Hudson locked it down?

kcchiefsus 03-09-2015 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 11370154)
Throwing this out there......

Promote Kush to C
Sign Orlando Franklin for LG

Anyone?

Except the Chargers already reached an agreement with Franklin.

petegz28 03-09-2015 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 11370157)
Except the Chargers already signed Franklin.

:doh!:

Guess I hadn't heard that.....well ****

stumppy 03-09-2015 07:19 AM

Did I miss something or is there a link in the OP that states specifically that Hudson has signed with chokeland ?

kcchiefsus 03-09-2015 07:19 AM

We simply can't go into the season depending on only rookies to improve the line.

And if Dorsey goes another season depending on losers like Linkenbach and McGlynn to fill holes on the lines then we are seriously ****ed and Dorsey is a bigger dumbass than anybody could have imagined. There is now not a single spot on the line that you can look at and say "That spot is locked down, we don't have to worry about it." There are question marks at all 5 spots and far too few answers.

wazu 03-09-2015 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 11370161)
Did I miss something or is there a link in the OP that states specifically that Hudson has signed with chokeland ?

All over Twitter. It's real.

Mother****erJones 03-09-2015 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11370117)
Guess he can climb on that stack of money to enhance his view from the bottom.

ROFL he'll need it because they'll be last as always

Bwana 03-09-2015 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 11370124)
Hate to see him go, but there's no way KC could (or should) pay that.

This

FringeNC 03-09-2015 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 11370121)
that's a blow, but you can't give him $9 mill

this GM should be able to figure out how to field a league average OL next year regardless

Yep. Even though I think our O-line was a bigger problem than our WRs last year, is that the best use of our cap? I think the difference in output between say Maclin and an average WR is bigger than Hudson and an average C. If I could have one at similar money, I'd take Maclin I think.

Mother****erJones 03-09-2015 07:32 AM

Sorry I'll pay playmakers (Maclin) $9 million per. Not Hudson whom isn't a hall of fame center

FloridaMan88 03-09-2015 07:36 AM

Hudson is a good, but not great center... Raiders overpaid.

The Chiefs have a guy they have been grooming in Kush or can address this in the draft.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-09-2015 07:39 AM

FRANCHISE O-LINE INCOMING!

PRAISE US WITH GREAT PRAISE!

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RunKC 03-09-2015 07:40 AM

Kush was the highest rated C in preseason last season and looked solid. I think he'll be a decent C.

Our OL isn't as terrible as last season. That was a catastrophe losing Allen and Stephenson.

Add some depth and I think we'll have a middle of the road OL

Red Dawg 03-09-2015 07:42 AM

Fugging 9 mil per year? **** him.

Sandy Vagina 03-09-2015 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11370182)
Kush was the highest rated C in preseason last season and looked solid. I think he'll be a decent C.

Our OL isn't as terrible as last season. That was a catastrophe losing Allen and Stephenson.

Add some depth and I think we'll have a middle of the road OL

Will need it to be, or it won't matter who they have at WR.

FloridaMan88 03-09-2015 07:44 AM

The Raiders and Jacksonville are God's gift to free agents looking to get overpaid.

They have to spend and no one with options wants to play on either team.

Chiefshrink 03-09-2015 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 11370121)
that's a blow,

No it's not. Hudson was never dominate. He was average most of the time and got pushed around against good D lines. Never impressed with his play. Trust me IF he was all that(essential to the OL)Reid and Dorsey would have tried to keep him.

Red Dawg 03-09-2015 07:45 AM

I'll give Dorsey a pass on this one. 9 mil is insane.

BossChief 03-09-2015 07:50 AM

3rd round comp pick next year.

kcchiefsus 03-09-2015 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11370205)
3rd round comp pick next year.

Not necessarily if we end up signing a number of free agents this year.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-09-2015 07:55 AM

Way to much money.

Amnorix 03-09-2015 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11370134)
There are teams out there like Oakland with reeruned cap money to spend and who need to overpay to get any free agent to go there.

We needed to lock up our players during the year and didn't get it done this time...


FYP. Teams like the Raiders, Jags and Titans are pretty clearly needing to overpay to get anyone to go there.

Antoher factor is state taxes. California taxes people who make more than $1MM per year 13% or something of the excess. When Florida and Texas have NO state income tax, it's a serious problem.

NFL seriously needs to think about whether a state income tax adjusted salary cap number makes sense. Teams in states with no income tax have a significant "recruiting" advantage over states that do, especially if it's higher. If the goal of the NFL is to have a level playing field for the teams to hunt talent, then they should probably consider it.

Of course, that would help teams in NY and California, so I'm not sure I'd personally support it. :D

Hoover 03-09-2015 08:06 AM

I know everyone likes to bitch about the line and Dorsey, but frankly I think he made the right calls by not over paying guys like Albert, Hudson, Asamoah, and Schwartz.

Albert: Five-year, 47 million deal with $25 million guaranteed. Started 9 games in 2014
Asamoah: Five-year, 22.5 million deal with $6 million guaranteed. Started 15 games in 2015
Schwartz: Four-year, $16.8 million deal with $6.2 million guaranteed. Started 2 games in 2014

Look at the money that's been paid to Chiefs offensive linemen, who besides Albert, don't have long distinguished track records in the NFL. Of all these guys, Asamoah is the guy me probably should have kept, but its not like he's some standout guard who would be difficult to replace.

It's going to suck to have to re-stock the oline in the upcoming draft but we don't really have a choice in the matter. This is why we must always use 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks on developmental linemen. It's a position you can't afford to ignore anymore because the big fatties are making bank.

Hoover 03-09-2015 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 11370212)
Not necessarily if we end up signing a number of free agents this year.

The Macklin signing makes it a wash.

KC_Lee 03-09-2015 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 11370219)
FYP. Teams like the Raiders, Jags and Titans are pretty clearly needing to overpay to get anyone to go there.

Antoher factor is state taxes. California taxes people who make more than $1MM per year 13% or something of the excess. When Florida and Texas have NO state income tax, it's a serious problem.

NFL seriously needs to think about whether a state income tax adjusted salary cap number makes sense. Teams in states with no income tax have a significant "recruiting" advantage over states that do, especially if it's higher. If the goal of the NFL is to have a level playing field for the teams to hunt talent, then they should probably consider it.

Of course, that would help teams in NY and California, so I'm not sure I'd personally support it. :D

You might have defeated your own point. TN has no state income tax. So if this were such a great thing the Titans would not have to overpay (other than the team sucks balls and has zero direction) given this fact.

However, your point on the taxes and the salary cap is a good one but i highly doubt that the NFL would ever open that can of worms.

Hoover 03-09-2015 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 11370230)
You might have defeated your own point. TN has no state income tax. So if this were such a great thing the Titans would not have to overpay (other than the team sucks balls and has zero direction) given this fact.

However, your point on the taxes and the salary cap is a good one but i highly doubt that the NFL would ever open that can of worms.

No way should the salary cap be indexed to account for state income tax rates. Will the cap be indexed to help KC deal with the fact that living in Kansas City is kind of boring compared to most over NFL cities? Doing something like that would only help teams like the 49ers, Seattle, NY Giants and Jets. Those teams don't have problems attracting players. The Raiders suck because their ownership is so bad they are like a third world country of the NFL.

Dave Lane 03-09-2015 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 11370155)
I guess that's the plan if you want to see Alex Smith continue to get killed.

Personally I'm not sure that is a bad thing long term.

L.A. Chieffan 03-09-2015 08:35 AM

OL all day in the draft baby

The Franchise 03-09-2015 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11370205)
3rd round comp pick next year.

After signing Maclin? Doubtful.

Imon Yourside 03-09-2015 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 11370185)
Fugging 9 mil per year? **** him.

That's about like 4.5 mil here, cuz cali

BigChiefFan 03-09-2015 08:46 AM

I'll take Maclin over Hudson.

BigMeatballDave 03-09-2015 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 11370282)
OL all day in the draft baby

LMAO

Imon Yourside 03-09-2015 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 11370302)
I'll take Maclin over Hudson.

Our GM would have to have his head examined if he paid 9 mil to Hudson.

DaWolf 03-09-2015 09:00 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Good player, upgrade at the position. But the Chiefs aren&#39;t losing sleep over losing him <a href="https://twitter.com/Big_Shirk">@Big_Shirk</a>: thoughts on Hudson signing?”</p>&mdash; John Middlekauff (@JohnMiddlekauff) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnMiddlekauff/status/574941937876099072">March 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Rudy tossed tigger's salad 03-09-2015 09:16 AM

Can't blame Dorsey for that. Ridiculous money

Frosty 03-09-2015 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 11370248)
No way should the salary cap be indexed to account for state income tax rates. Will the cap be indexed to help KC deal with the fact that living in Kansas City is kind of boring compared to most over NFL cities? Doing something like that would only help teams like the 49ers, Seattle, NY Giants and Jets. Those teams don't have problems attracting players. The Raiders suck because their ownership is so bad they are like a third world country of the NFL.

Washington doesn't have a state income tax either, so it wouldn't make any difference to Seattle.

The Franchise 03-09-2015 09:21 AM

Oakland HAD to sign someone. They lost out on Suh, J. Thomas, Cobb and Maclin.

Mr. Laz 03-09-2015 09:22 AM

Poe is going to kick his ass twice a year.

Reerun_KC 03-09-2015 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 11370282)
OL all day in the draft baby

True fan will never stop being True fan... 7-9 baby! lets get some Hope!!!!

Easy 6 03-09-2015 09:24 AM

Get bent, Rodney.

Have fun playing in the cesspool.

Mav 03-09-2015 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11370358)
Oakland HAD to sign someone. They lost out on Suh, J. Thomas, Cobb and Maclin.

Where did Julius go?


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