2nd rd options
 

Here is a list of the newest 2nd rd mock from Matt Miller:

One minor thing here: Harrison Phillips is going in the first rd. Daniel Jeremiah already has him there based on what he’s heard.

CB seems to be the strong suit of this rd. Who else should we look at?

Obviously things will change post-FA but I'd lean toward DL or LB right now.

Davenport at 57? WTF?

We’d run to the podium.

That’s exactly where I’m at right now. I wouldn’t mind going all front 7 in the first 3 rounds.

Yeah Marcus Davenport will rise. Keep in mind this was posted before the Senior Bowl.

One guy I’m really high on is Christian Wilkins, but based on our history, we wouldn’t play him much year 1.

Corner or pass rusher, whichever is better at our spot. I don't care which (would rather have the pass rusher, honestly), but it has to be one or the other.

I really want to bolster our lines this offseason, depth wise. This is why I'm advocating for the Andrew Norwell signing to solidify the OL and I'd love to load up on DL and OLBs in the draft.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Wilkins will be returning to Clemson lol

That makes sense that this was before the Senior Bowl though.

I’d be ecstatic with Taven Bryan, Leighton Vander Esch, or Tarvarus McFadden.

I also shouldn't discount the CB possibility because 1) you can never have enough of them these days and 2) Nelson will likely need a replacement in 2019, if not sooner.

Well let’s keep something in mind here:

-DL won’t play much.
-OLB probably won’t play much due to Houston, Ford (I expect him back) and Tanoh.
-CB probably won’t play much behind Peters, Fuller and Nelson.

If we want instant impact, maybe that is an ILB or S.

We might be drafting our starting NT for 2018 in this draft.

a good CB draftee could push Nelson right to the bench.

ILB would be a good value probably; get one of the top guys there. Mostly, I want a NT.

Please Veach sign Nigel Bradham and draft a pass rusher

Philly definitely can't afford to keep him.

New mock from Matt Miller has us taking S Kyzir White from WV in rd 2. That’s Kevin White’s brother (Bears 1st rd WR). Dude is a straight up baller and would make an immediate impact here.

Love the 3rd rd pick of Jeff Holland too. I want that man in rd 2.

Both these guys are great options.

Tim Settle from VT is a name to watch. Andy loves fatties and this guy looks like he could fill that role.

He’s a ****ing Mack truck.

My opinion is that this particular list of 2nd round options looks fairly unrealistic.

I like DL Taven Bryan a lot. Team needs to get away from Allen Bailey.

I think Armani Watts is the 2nd best safety in the draft, should be available in rd 2 or 3 and would be an immediate upgrade over Parker or Sorensen.

JaxSt LB Darius Jackson and DB Siran Neal are small school sleepers available in later rds.

I like DL Andrew Brown in the mid rounds

Whats story on Antonio Callaway and can he escape jail time and would any team take a chance in 7th rd on him?

He's super athletic for his size. I feel like there's a ton of options at DL for KC in rounds 2-3.


https://www.ndtscouting.com/bischoff...mpression=true

Damn I never looked into settle. He’d be a massive get in the 2nd. Doubt he falls after the combine he’ll likely have though.

I'd shit myself if Settle made it to round 2, much less all the way to 54. He's the 3rd best DT in this class, behind Payne and Vea, in my opinion. He's got Poe movement skills and actual Power 5 production. I just don't see how he falls that far. I wouldn't get my hopes up.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...wl-predictions

Move Settle up to our 3rd round pick for the WR, and this wouldn't be bad.

Move Berry out of the box and put White there.

An edge rusher. Holland

2 d-linemen. Settle and Norton

Could maybe even sub in the edge rusher from Rutgers, Turay, in the 4th for Norton. Then pick up Senat from South Florida later for the D-line.

Good ****ing god, NO.

If the Chiefs draft a WR in the 2nd round, Veach needs to be fired immediately.

Exactly! This defense needs a face lift. They can go a variety of ways on defense. Pass rusher, NT, playmaking safety, corner, ILB.


I’m going to watch some Leighton vander esch tonight. I’ve got a list of 20 players to watch for round 2.

Prepare thy boner

Sounds like it. May not even come close to being on the board when KC picks

Holy ****. Settle is a monster. Has some of the athleticism that prime Poe had too it looks like.

I doubt that guy is there for us after the whole pre-draft process if his athletic ability shows at the combine, but if he is YES PLEASE. I suppose he could last pretty easily to our pick though because he’s a NT in a strong interior DL class.

You could put him at the 1-tech with Jones at the 3 and watch them eat MFers.

I forgot about my Wisconsin Jack Cichy. He tore his ACL prior to the season last year. ****ing dude can play. He’s a stud. I’d be all for him in round 3 or 4. Preferably 4th because of the injury.
You watch him and he’s ****ing everywhere flying around. He had like 14 tackles against Ohio St in 2016.

Yes, and for him not to be available either if he works out the way he is expected to. I've got him and Settle both being 1st round picks at this juncture. I think there are some other guys severely overrated by the talking heads at this point that are going to drop in their place.

Learn how to read. Settle instead of the WR that they had picked in the 3rd round for us. Jesus dude! Get a clue!

I see a ton of value in rounds 2-3 for KC on defense. Corner became a lesser need than others with the additions of Fuller and Amerson. I’d still take one in round 2 or 3 if the right guy fell

I think they take a corner in the 4th-5th. With Nelson and Amerson both set to be FAs next year, we may need long term insurance.

And I’d be completely fine with this. Can always take one high next draft.

There are bigger questions surrounding the safety positions and DL than corner now.
Safety/DL are likely the first two out of three picks...

ILB as well. As of this minute, only Ragland and Eligwe are under contract.

They certainly are but BPA is the best philosophy. Can’t be reaching. Adding Fuller and Amerson gives Veach flexibility now.

Former scout weighing in:

Here are his thoughts on safety:

http://amp.profootballweekly.com/201...mpression=true

Tim Settle looks like he will be a pipe dream, but Safety looks like a really good value in rd 2.

When I first watched him yesterday, I immediately thought he looked like prime Poe. So athletic for his size. There’s no way he should be available at 59.

I think that's a waste of a draft pick. The Chiefs have already tried taking CB's late and they did not work out. I'd use a 4th on an offensive or defensive lineman over a CB.

The Amerson signing is a one year stop gap and Veach knows that he'll most likely need to spend a Day 1 draft pick on a CB in 2019.

Late round corners always seem to flop. I’d target lbs and safeties late as they seem to be better ST players as well

Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia fits the athletic style of Reid's line concepts. He might be there at #54. Will Hernandez is a huge beast of a LG, at 348 pounds, but still moves well. I like that idea, but I don't know if he fits as well.

But I'd rather have DL help and sign a LG free agent.

I just don’t think this line needs any more youth infused. Morse and LDT missed time with injury along with a lost season for Ehinger. Witzmann was underwhelming, while Fulton looked competent at Center but not at Guard. The Erving acquisition was wise and he can factor in as a versatile #6 who can play anywhere along the line.

I think the Chiefs maybe add a free agent G/C, and then stand pat. Ehinger/Witzmann/Morse and potentially Fulton, if they bring him back, need to scrap it out for an interior position.

Everyone loves Norwell, but no way should KC pay $12 million per for a Guard.

Other names that should be considered and for reasonable dollars:
Justin Pugh
Weston Richburg - concussion history
Jonathan Cooper - injured MCL but back for OTAs
Josh Kline
Ryan Jensen - Solid year with Ravens
Luke Joeckel - Nice year for Joeckel apart from injury later in year

What are your thoughts on Tim Settle? He’s becoming my pick unless for some goofy reason Vander Esch is available. Other than that, I’d take Settle or a pass rusher, some DL and pass rushing in round 3 and Jack Cichy in round 4 if they can’t land Vander Esch.

Bucky Brooks seems to think we could have our eyes on Josh Jackson now that Peters is gone: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1

Brooks seems to think that Jackson can provide some of the big plays that Peters does without the attitude issues. Going to need a 1st however, obviously.

Ok so now that corner is a need these are the guys that we should target in the 2nd:

Tarvarus McFadden
Jaire Alexander
Isaiah Oliver
Carlton Davis

Noticing a lot of CBs and LBs going early in Mock drafts this year.

That’s why I’m praying it’s a 1st round this year for Peters. Gives us a shot at Rashaan Evans, Vander Esch, and DL like Payne and Vea.

I would rather fill that hole with a FA.

Agreed. Kyle Fuller, Patrick Robinson, E.J. Gaines, Trumaine Johnson (if you want to spend large, etc. This FA corner class is well stacked. Go get one

We need to get a bigger corner. Fuller is 5’11”, and Nelson is 5’10”. I don’t mind that, but we need another 6’2”+ guy to match up on big receivers imo.

I don't really like the other Fuller all that much. They need to make Trumaine Johnson a priority.

That’s true. KC does need another big corner. I just don’t see them paying Trumaine Johnson at this point. As for Fuller, I just think it’d be cool to have both brothers in the same secondary.

Having no #1 CB in a scheme very dependent on coverages is a red alert status.

If they are going to spend big money in FA at all, it'll be to fill the hole they just made.

It’s too bad Josh Jackson is more of a pipe dream than reality.

I’m just not sure they’re going to spend that much. They may look to the draft. We’ll see in a couple weeks I guess. If they sign Johnson, so be it. I’ll back it.

Ya, but I’d hate to trade Peters only to use that first round pick on a corner. In a deep corner draft. I’d much rather package picks to go up for Roquan or Edmunds. I do like Josh Jackson a lot. I like his swagger. He wants to take the ball away. A lot like Peters actually in that way.

My guess is that Veach too doesn’t want to use the high pick there at CB, which is why he signed Amerson. Now he is probably going to assume his starters are Fuller/Nelson/Amerson, and let whatever upgrades there are come to him either via FA or mid rounds.

That's going to be a swiss cheese secondary LMAO

No way Veach settles for that

The Chiefs are making rebuilding its shit tier D a priority and just traded off one of the biggest pieces on it. No way are they going to limpdick a counter to that move.

With this FA market, I think they sign the other starting corner.

Fuller, FA, Nelson and Amerson would still be good just not great like it would be with Peters

I agree. KC is adding a corner in free agency.

My biggest excitement with Veach so far, is that he’s aggressive and attacks needs. He’s also creative in his trade of getting Kendall Fuller. Most GMs just take the picks.

A big issue however is the large amount of needs with the defense. The CB position does need upgraded, but we also need a NT, a WILB, depth or upgrade at ROLB, safety depth or upgrade at S.

Veach is going to have a major challenge filling all of these needs in logical succession.

It would be so key to get the first this year. That’d allow KC to get two very impactful players on defense in the first 3 rounds.

Im dying for this trade compensation, so I can start thinking about even more prospects. KC will look vastly different on defense. I really want Tim Settle in round 2. A DL of say, Chris Jones, Tim Settle and Sheldon Richardson or Payne or Vea would be dynamic.

I’m all for using the money to load up on the front 7 and draft Settle. Relieve some pressure for the secondary, get us in more 3rd-and-longs.

I sure wouldn’t hate an all-Va Tech draft in rounds 1-2. (Trading up for Edmunds and taking Settle)

I’m not sure if trading up will be viable or not. We really need to know the Peters trade return. If Veach can trade up into R1 and wants to for a particular player, I hope that he does. But at this juncture I don’t think we have the assets to do so without ruining the rest of the draft.

I don't see how we're getting in the top 15 without holding a first round pick, so Edmunds woild be off the table.

It’s contingent upon that first round pick. It’s not possible without it.

It’s dependent on the first from the Rams obviously.

I think it is a 2 year fix. If we don't get all of the parts filled this season, so be it. Have the championship defense in place in year two of Mahomes's at the helm!

I'd be amazed if we got the 23rd pick.

I’m starting to warm up to the idea of signing Trumaine Johnson. All depends on the price obviously. I think he’d solidify our CB as one of the better units in the league again.

Yea that’s definitely what I would prefer. I’m all in on a Fuller bros team up. But until we do I’m just adding those guys to the list.

Me too. Just wishful thinking

Problem is you have to pay Fuller, Jones and Hill soon. Maybe you just front load the piss out of the deal?

Just a week ago I had it in my head that we’d soon be paying $18M per year for Peters, so I don’t mind the money aspect. If they can front load it, then yes I would.

I don’t see KC outbidding teams for him. I think they’re going to be acting crazy this FA but with smaller deals and maybe one big signing.

Going to be some good stack linebackers available. Might the best approach.

It’s going to take more than 1 offseason to do this unfortunately. That’s how ****ing bad the defense is.

Dorsey ****ed this franchise hard

Again for the people in the back: this is a deep DB class. There will be starting caliber corners in early rd 2.

A DL needs to be from FA. The odds of a 2nd rd DL being ready day 1 are not great.

I disagree. If somebody like Bryan, Phillips, or Settle falls you have to take them. Either one of those guys can have an impact and taking a different position doesn’t guarantee anything.

I have a good feeling one of those guys makes it to us with this strong DL class.

You can still find DB’s that can have a day 1 impact in the 3rd.