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duncan_idaho 01-29-2013 09:48 AM

Baseball: PEDS in Miami
 
So, you didn't really think PEDS were dead and gone as a subject in baseball, did you?

Pretty scary and damning stuff for several players (including the Melk-man) in this article published by the Miami New Times this morning.

The writer was in my class at Mizzou.

VERY bad news for Alex Rodriguez, Gio Gonzalez, Yasmani Grandal, others.

It's my understanding MLB can suspend players without a positive test as long as sufficient evidence is available. Should be interesting...

PaulAllen 01-29-2013 09:51 AM

Very damning for Juan Pierre.

htismaqe 01-29-2013 09:52 AM

Kind of glad the Gio-to-KC thing failed to materialize.

Quote:

Then check out the main column, where their real names flash like an all-star roster of professional athletes with Miami ties: San Francisco Giants outfielder Melky Cabrera, Oakland A's hurler Bartolo Colón, pro tennis player Wayne Odesnik, budding Cuban superstar boxer Yuriorkis Gamboa, and Texas Rangers slugger Nelson Cruz. There's even the New York Yankees' $275 million man himself, Alex Rodriguez, who has sworn he stopped juicing a decade ago.
That ****ing SUCKS.

loochy 01-29-2013 09:54 AM

WHO CURR

NO 1 CURR

IM TIRED OF THIS

Skyy God 01-29-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9361210)
The writer was in my class at Mizzou.

Great story to break.... too bad sportswriters basically don't get Pulitzers.

MIAdragon 01-29-2013 09:56 AM

Heh this is no more than 3 blocks from my house.

loochy 01-29-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 9361220)
Heh this is no more than 3 blocks from my house.

I do growth hormone with A-Rod. /FloridaDane

mr. tegu 01-29-2013 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 9361220)
Heh this is no more than 3 blocks from my house.

And you never saw any of these guys? You could have broken the story!

MIAdragon 01-29-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9361288)
And you never saw any of these guys? You could have broken the story!

You see quite a few "celbs" down here, I'm not one to get excited about it at all.

MIAdragon 01-29-2013 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9361229)
I do growth hormone with A-Rod. /FloridaDane

**** off you stupid bitch. *my best Dane impression* It was funny to see something so close to home, sorry if you took it as flaunting or bragging.

Sorter 01-29-2013 11:44 AM

omg no way!!

Ceej 01-29-2013 11:47 AM

GAT DAMN FOREIGNERS!

Rasputin 01-29-2013 11:49 AM

(including the Melk-man)



NOo not the Melk-man


dumbass!

Ceej 01-29-2013 11:51 AM

BRING BACK CANSECO!!

tk13 02-05-2013 07:09 PM

@JeffPassan
BREAKING: Ryan Braun's name is in Biogenesis records and MLB will investigate his association with PED clinic. News: http://yhoo.it/VSa8bF

Jerm 02-05-2013 07:11 PM

**** Ryan Braun...what's his excuse this time....

RyFo18 02-05-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9380967)
@JeffPassan
BREAKING: Ryan Braun's name is in Biogenesis records and MLB will investigate his association with PED clinic. News: http://yhoo.it/VSa8bF

As a Brewers fan, this sucks. It's obviously this guy: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/4768/ryan-z-braun

stonedstooge 02-05-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9380967)
@JeffPassan
BREAKING: Ryan Braun's name is in Biogenesis records and MLB will investigate his association with PED clinic. News: http://yhoo.it/VSa8bF

Some dude must have broken into this place and written his name on the logs. Probably the same dude that broke into the guys place that had Braun's urine sample and injected PED's into it. Bastards! Most likely a Red Turds fan.

KC_Connection 02-05-2013 07:53 PM

Braun's going to have to come up with a new excuse to bail himself out of this one.

tk13 02-05-2013 08:14 PM

@JonHeymanCBS
Ryan Braun says he has nothing to hide & that his lawyers used tony bosch as a consultant in appeal. http://bit.ly/YBNDZ9

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-05-2013 08:23 PM

Ryan Braun is a lecherous one who sucks the penis. Any man who starts his own line of Ed Hardy-themed clothing should have his ****ing spine ripped out by a Yautja.

stonedstooge 02-05-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9381180)
Ryan Braun is a lecherous one who sucks the penis. Any man who starts his own line of Ed Hardy-themed clothing should have his ****ing spine ripped out by a Yautja.

Is that true?ROFLROFLROFL

KC_Connection 02-05-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9381147)
@JonHeymanCBS
Ryan Braun says he has nothing to hide & that his lawyers used tony bosch as a consultant in appeal. http://bit.ly/YBNDZ9

The previous BS excuse from last year was better.

chefsos 02-05-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9381187)
The previous BS excuse from last year was better.

I'm sick of Braun haters. I'll say it: I believe in Ryan Braun. I believe he'll come up with a MUCH better BS excuse given enough time.

KC_Connection 02-05-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chefsos (Post 9381265)
I'm sick of Braun haters. I'll say it: I believe in Ryan Braun. I believe he'll come up with a MUCH better BS excuse given enough time.

I'm no Braun hater, I need him to play for my dynasty league fantasy team. That's why he needs to come up with something much better. :)

JoeyChuckles 02-05-2013 09:01 PM

Braun is the Armstrong of his generation.

ShowtimeSBMVP 06-04-2013 05:49 PM

Kaitee Daley ‏@daleysports 2m

Sources tell @OTLonESPN that Biogenesis clinic founder Tony Bosch will testify against players; MLB preparing to suspend A-Rod, Braun, etc.

ShowtimeSBMVP 06-04-2013 05:49 PM

T.J. Quinn ‏@TJQuinnESPN 50s

BREAKING: MLB will seek to suspend A-Rod, Ryan Braun and about 20 players connected to Miami clinic. Founder Tony Bosch agreed to cooperate.

BlackHelicopters 06-04-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9729359)
Kaitee Daley ‏@daleysports 2m

Sources tell @OTLonESPN that Biogenesis clinic founder Tony Bosch will testify against players; MLB preparing to suspend A-Rod, Braun, etc.

Suspensions?

ShowtimeSBMVP 06-04-2013 05:52 PM

T.J. Quinn ‏@TJQuinnESPN 1m

Sources tell @OTLonESPN Bosch will swear an affidavit that he provided drugs to players. MLB may seek 100-game suspensions for Braun, A-Rod.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-04-2013 05:55 PM

Two weeks after I trade for the mother****er in FBB. Of ****ing course.

ShowtimeSBMVP 06-04-2013 05:59 PM

The players who might ultimately face discipline from MLB include: Rodriguez, Braun, Cabrera, Colon, Grandal, Nelson Cruz, Francisco Cervelli, Jesus Montero, Jhonny Peralta, CesarPuello, Fernando Martinez, Everth Cabrera, Fautini de los Santos, Jordan Norberto, and a number of players who are either identified by code names or whose names appear in other documents not obtained by "Outside the Lines." All are currently on major-league rosters but for Puello, a top outfield prospect for the New York Mets who is playing in Class AA Binghamton.

One player listed who will be scrutinized but possibly exonerated is the Nationals' Gio Gonzalez. Gonzalez was listed among Biogenesis clients, but two sources told ESPN that the only substances he received from the clinic were legal.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...-investigation

MeatRock 06-04-2013 06:05 PM

Ouch!! That's going to hurt some teams.

KCUnited 06-04-2013 06:06 PM

So glad KC is clean.

Hootie 06-04-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9729394)
So glad KC is clean.

Not me...rather have entertaining cheaters then shitty baseball players.

KCUnited 06-04-2013 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unnecessary drama (Post 9729397)
Not me...rather have entertaining cheaters then shitty baseball players.

Yeah, I was kidding. I'd give these guys traceable shit from the 90's for 30 hrs.

KCUnited 06-04-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9729400)
Yeah, I was kidding. I'd give these guys traceable shit from the 90's for 30 hrs.

10k on that one, fellas.

chefsos 06-04-2013 06:29 PM

I'm sure the MFY mgmt will be all broke up over the potential suspension of Rodriguez.

SnakeXJones 06-04-2013 06:43 PM

Didn't someone break this before the season started wasn't it the same guy that broke the Melky & Braun story? he deserves a damn medal

ChiliConCarnage 06-04-2013 06:52 PM

Wow didnt realize Jesus Montero was in on this. Montero 4 Pineda.. Crazy trade based on returns at this point. Hasn't worked out for either team yet

Bewbies 06-04-2013 06:57 PM

Suspensions are unpaid yes? Does NY get to keep the eleven billionty dollars A-Rod would give up in missing 100 games?

SnakeXJones 06-04-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9729465)
Suspensions are unpaid yes? Does NY get to keep the eleven billionty dollars A-Rod would give up in missing 100 games?

I hope he is done for good

Bewbies 06-04-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnakeXJones (Post 9729468)
I hope he is done for good

So do the Yankees. LMAO

lewdog 06-04-2013 07:05 PM

My fantasy team with Braun might be ****ed.

Just Passin' By 06-04-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9729478)
My fantasy team with Braun might be ****ed.

Make a quick trade with someone who hasn't heard the story yet. You'll make a lifelong friend by doing that. :thumb:

tk13 06-04-2013 07:13 PM

There's a fan out there about to be covered in excrement.

warpaint* 06-04-2013 07:16 PM

Most least surprising development ever?

chefsos 06-04-2013 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9729498)
There's a fan out there about to be covered in excrement.

I was just thinking along those lines. Someone, somewhere, has all those guys on his fantasy team.

Jerm 06-04-2013 07:26 PM

A-Rod should be banned for life...

Hootie 06-04-2013 07:38 PM

Seriously...

pump Moose and Hosmer full of horse roids, greenies, HGH and testosterone and see if they can get away with using a whizinator for a year or so...

they get caught, they miss 50 games...but hopefully the confidence of being super humans for a few months/years makes them good players when they come back from their suspensions

what could it hurt?

KCUnited 06-04-2013 07:40 PM

I'd hire Ben Johnson as our hitting coach.

Buck 06-04-2013 07:43 PM

Grandal is listed there and he was already suspended 50 games to start this season.

Mother****erJones 06-04-2013 07:44 PM

I don't mind these guys juicing. It makes the game fun.

Bambi 06-05-2013 12:09 AM

If they suspend enough players do you think the Royals can win a few games?

Chiefspants 06-05-2013 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 9730147)
If they suspend enough players do you think the Royals can win a few games?

None once news of Frenchy's suspension hits the airwaves. We're nothing without that juicing, club leader, bacon eater and RBI machine.

stonedstooge 06-05-2013 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9730149)
None once news of Frenchy's suspension hits the airwaves. We're nothing without that juicing, club leader, bacon eater and RBI machine.

If Frenchy was one on the list, the rest of the American League teams would petition that he NOT be suspended. He's such a good boy

BlackHelicopters 06-05-2013 05:48 AM

Francoeur is a team leader. And he swallows.

Radar Chief 06-05-2013 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9729394)
So glad KC is clean.

Just means they aren't trying hard enough.

MIAdragon 06-05-2013 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9729469)
So do the Yankees. LMAO

Still have to pay for him.

MIAdragon 06-05-2013 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 9729581)
Grandal is listed there and he was already suspended 50 games to start this season.

Tack on another 100

ShowtimeSBMVP 07-09-2013 04:06 PM

MLB To Suspend Braun, Rodriguez, Others
By Zach Links [July 9, 2013 at 5:01pm CST]
Major League Baseball is expected to suspend Ryan Braun, Alex Rodriguez, and as many as 20 players connected to the Biogenesis clinic sometime after next week's All-Star break, several sources told T.J. Quinn and Mike Fish of ESPN.com.

DaneMcCloud 07-09-2013 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9801456)
MLB To Suspend Braun, Rodriguez, Others
By Zach Links [July 9, 2013 at 5:01pm CST]
Major League Baseball is expected to suspend Ryan Braun, Alex Rodriguez, and as many as 20 players connected to the Biogenesis clinic sometime after next week's All-Star break, several sources told T.J. Quinn and Mike Fish of ESPN.com.

At least their bodies are ripped and they feel good about themselves

ShowtimeSBMVP 07-09-2013 04:12 PM

Ryan Braun didn't answer questions
Updated: July 9, 2013, 6:03 PM ET
By T.J. Quinn and Mike Fish | ESPN.com

Ryan Braun, who has repeatedly denied using performance-enhancing drugs, refused to answer questions during a recent meeting with Major League Baseball about his connection to Tony Bosch and the Biogenesis clinic in Miami, sources told "Outside the Lines."

The meeting took place June 29, a source said, and is one of several that MLB has conducted with players connected to the clinic. A source said Alex Rodriguez has not been interviewed, but a meeting is expected to take place within the week.

Commissioner Bud Selig's office is expected to suspend Braun and Rodriguez, along with as many as 20 players sometime after next week's All-Star break, several sources told "Outside the Lines." As OTL reported, MLB started building cases against the players last month after Bosch agreed to cooperate with investigators.

The question is the length of the suspensions.

Sources said the commissioner's office was considering 100-game bans for Braun and Rodriguez, the punishment for a second offense, even though neither player was previously suspended for violating MLB's drug policy.

The argument, one source said, would be that they -- and possibly other players -- committed multiple offenses by receiving performance-enhancing drugs from Bosch and by lying about it.

Bosch's attorneys have met repeatedly with MLB officials over the past month, turning over numerous documents to substantiate his connection to the players named in company documents, sources have said.

While sources would not detail what Bosch has turned over, he was expected to provide phone, text, email and other records.

Representatives of Braun could not be reached Tuesday by ESPN.

Discuss Thrower 07-09-2013 04:12 PM

Why ****ing wait?

ShowtimeSBMVP 08-05-2014 01:59 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>More Biogenesis-Related Suspensions Likely To*Occur <a href="http://t.co/k5m13fY8FG">http://t.co/k5m13fY8FG</a></p>&mdash; MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/statuses/496746678238449665">August 5, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...aled/13624217/


The federal investigation that brought about those arrests have “revealed previously unnamed MLB players,” ESPN.com’s T.J. Quinn reports on Twitter, which could well lead to another round of suspensions. (Quinn, whose Twitter timeline has quite a bit of additional coverage, says to “expect more suspensions.”) It can only be hoped that we will not see a repeat of last year’s seemingly endless saga. Nevertheless, the potential impact on baseball’s transactional side remains a realistic consideration.

WhawhaWhat 08-05-2014 02:44 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Two most common responses I&#39;ve gotten on unnamed players are &quot;please be Ortiz&quot; and &quot;please be Jeter.&quot;</p>&mdash; T.J. Quinn (@TJQuinnESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJQuinnESPN/statuses/496728935372427264">August 5, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Skyy God 08-05-2014 02:49 PM

Pujols FTMFW.

jd1020 08-05-2014 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10796078)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Two most common responses I've gotten on unnamed players are &quot;please be Ortiz&quot; and &quot;please be Jeter.&quot;</p>&mdash; T.J. Quinn (@TJQuinnESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJQuinnESPN/statuses/496728935372427264">August 5, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why would anyone want Jeter's name to be smeared?

On the other hand, I think it's just a matter of time before Papi's name comes out on a report.

BigRedChief 08-05-2014 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 10796084)
Pujols FTMFW.

Pujols has never been even accused of steroid use other than by opposing team fans. He passes the eye test. His body type never changed in his 11 years with the Cardinals. As he got older his production slowly declined as it should when you get older. There were no "bounceback" years. I'd be totally surprised if he took steriods.

Now, him being two years older than the official record, I might see that as more of a possibility. He is a USA citzen now. You can't forge those citizenship documents. So maybe thats just another BS accusation.

Skyy God 08-05-2014 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10796089)
Why would anyone want Jeter's name to be smeared?

On the other hand, I think it's just a matter of time before Papi's name comes out on a report.

To end the nightmarish, season long Jeter fellate-fest, of course.

KC native 08-05-2014 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 10796084)
Pujols FTMFW.

Pujols was huge in high school (he went to Fort Osage). I saw him with my own eyes. I didn't think he was high school age, but he was massive back then as well.

Mr. Laz 08-05-2014 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10796089)
Why would anyone want Jeter's name to be smeared?

On the other hand, I think it's just a matter of time before Papi's name comes out on a report.

why wouldn't anyone outside of New York want every Yankme to get busted?

Skyy God 08-05-2014 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10796098)
Pujols has never been even accused of steroid use other than by opposing team fans. He passes the eye test. His body type never changed in his 11 years with the Cardinals. As he got older his production slowly declined as it should when you get older. There were no "bounceback" years. I'd be totally surprised if he took steriods.

Now, him being two years older than the official record, I might see that as more of a possibility. He is a USA citzen now. You can't forge those citizenship documents. So maybe thats just another BS accusation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10796110)
Pujols was huge in high school (he went to Fort Osage). I saw him with my own eyes. I didn't think he was high school age, but he was massive back then as well.

HGH is under the PED umbrella, though.

I honestly don't personally care about PEDs. Greenies and 'roids for everybody! But Pujols can go eat a bag of d's for insulting the Cards on the way out the door.

jd1020 08-05-2014 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10796117)
why wouldn't anyone outside of New York want every Yankme to get busted?

Maybe because they are an actual fan of baseball and Jeter has been one of the few shining stars to come out of the PED era?

New World Order 08-05-2014 03:31 PM

Why does everyone say "This is very bad for so and so."

Do you honestly think Alex Rodriguez cares what joe blow says? The guy already is worth over a 100 million dollars.

**** me with a rusty fish knife for millions and expose me for the fraud I am. I couldn't care less.

As Derrick Thomas once said, "All I care about is being healthy and getting paid."

Chief Roundup 08-05-2014 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10796089)
Why would anyone want Jeter's name to be smeared?

Because he is a Yankee.
Because people want to see those stars brought down to earth, if you will, can't have someone being all perfect. The same reasons that people were happy when Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Kobe Bryant and so on all got into trouble.

hometeam 08-05-2014 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10796141)
Why does everyone say "This is very bad for so and so."

Do you honestly think Alex Rodriguez cares what joe blow says? The guy already is worth over a 100 million dollars.

**** me with a rusty fish knife for millions and expose me for the fraud I am. I couldn't care less.

As Derrick Thomas once said, "All I care about is being healthy and getting paid."

While I agree with your sentiment, AROD specifically, DOES very much care what people think, which is why he hired people to lie and say good things about him, carry signs, organize grass roots efforts to clear his name, sued people, on and on and on.

Then when people caught onto the bullshit he finally got wise and stopped.

Carry on.

Chief Roundup 08-05-2014 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10796141)
Why does everyone say "This is very bad for so and so."

Do you honestly think Alex Rodriguez cares what joe blow says? The guy already is worth over a 100 million dollars.

**** me with a rusty fish knife for millions and expose me for the fraud I am. I couldn't care less.

As Derrick Thomas once said, "All I care about is being healthy and getting paid."

He cares about how his baseball playing days are regarded by his peers. He will always be looked at as the one that could have, the one that everyone believed in, but yet he was a user. He disgraced his name and his baseball career by cheating. That is what he will always be known as, someone that didn't believe he was good enough without cheating.
That money cannot buy self worth.

Chiefspants 08-05-2014 03:46 PM

Fingers crossed for Miguel Cabrera.


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