Nolan's Batman 3 Title
 

Batman sequel 'Rises' again

LOS ANGELES - THE next Batman sequel has a title: The Dark Knight Rises. Distributor Warner Bros. confirmed the name for director Christopher Nolan's third adventure about the DC Comics vigilante hero, which follows Batman Begins in 2005 and The Dark Knight in 2008.

The Dark Knight Rises is due in theaters July 20, 2012. Bucking Hollywood's current wave of 3-D movies, Nolan is not planning to shoot the film in 3-D.

Warner Bros had agreed with Nolan's argument that the sequel should resist the 3-D craze, the director told the Los Angeles Times' Hero Complex blog, which first reported the title.

Nolan would not reveal what villain might appear in The Dark Knight Rises, but he said it would not be the Riddler, one of the key bad guys in the comics and past film and TV Batman tales.

Earlier this year, Nolan said he would not resurrect the Joker, the cackling villain played by Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight. Ledger won the supporting-actor Academy Award for the role, a year after he died of an accidental overdose of prescription drugs. -- AP

:clap:

"accidental overdose"

my ass......


I've heard Phillip Seymour Hoffman as the Penguin.....but that rumor was a LONG time ago.

I like the speculation that since the title from The Dark Knight was as much a reference to two-face as it was to Batman, that perhaps we'll again see him.

Well it will be a villain that can be humanized without superpowers or crazy origins.. That is why I do not think it will be penguin..

Harley Quinn - Make it as Jokers lover or some hostage that went crazy and took over the role..

Bane - Just make him a roided out freak..

or Deathstroke

yes.. good choice..

Didn't they have a funeral for Dent at the end of TDK?

Two Face/Harvey Dent needed his own movie IMO.

I really don't like the title at all. Batman Begins. The Dark Knight

The Dark Knight Rises? WTF?

Oh, and thank you Mr. Nolan for NOT getting on the 3D bus.

Could be Black Mask or possibly Killer Croc.
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Killer Croc, not happening but Black Mask could since the Joker killed off the criminal underworld thus leaving that option ready to be exploited.

How do I feel about that one. Allow me a moment to ponder.

The second one was suppose to be about him.. But Ledger died and they reworked from what I read when it was coming out..

So you're claiming it was suicide?

What?

Sorry Dude, but this is categorically untrue.

The villain and focus of the film was always The Joker. They spent years prepping, shooting, editing and composing the score for this film (TWO composers shared credit although as many as twelve worked on the score).

Christopher Nolan didn't just change the "focus" of the film 5 months before the release date because Ledger tragically passed away.

Yeah, I'm not in love with the title either. It might grow on me, but I'm hoping it goes away.

Anyway, the word on the street (or Ain't it cool news talkback section) is that they're looking for a female lead for the new movie. It could be a romantic interest, but I'm betting it's Catwoman.

I like Penquin for this one. Doesn't have to be muntant like Batman Returns. Could just have a some weird birth defect, but is from a rich family. An Aristocratic gangster, with a lot of cool toys just like Bruce Wayne...that sounds like it would fit pretty well in the Nolan films to me.

I like the Killer Croc idea too. It could be an odd disease or deformity... I think one comic had it as a weird type of cancer...can't remember it's been awhile since I read Batman. It could work.

Wait, so you're saying that TDK was originally supposed to be about Two-Face but they reworked it after Ledger died? Seems like that wouldn't be easy to do without Ledger...

Anyway, I feel like they could have at least let Dent live & then they could either (a) lessened his role in TDK & make him the main bad guy in the 3rd movie, which would have been badass or (b) let him make a cameo like Scarecrow did in TDK. Either one would have been better than killing him off IMO. Sorry, I just love Two-Face & that whole story/dynamic.

It's funny how the Burton and Schumacher movies still have an effect on people's perception of the characters. In the comics, the Penguin was never a mutant (though he was sometimes drawn that way after Batman Returns came out) and Bane was a genius.

THIS

Bane might be hard to do in this world, but Penguin would be an easy fit.

Even though I'm a super geek, I was always a Marvel man, not DC. So pardon my ignorance of all the ins and outs of the Batman world.

Is there anyone who is a parallel for Batman? Someone who is like a super vigilante who thinks they're doing good, but is still a foe of Batman? That seems the most appropriate "villain" considering the end of the last one. I can see this one opening with Batman as a villain of Gotham. There's a new "hero" who has arisen to fight both Batman and the criminal underground and who is loved by the public. This hero eventually becomes corrupted and Batman has to take him out.

Or maybe the "hero" is actually bad the whole time, but he's somehow won the public's love by appearing to be good. I could see Nolan sinking his teeth into that: the bad guy seems to be good, and the good guy seems to be bad within the eyes of the public.

Sounds like a porn film.

Not thrilled about the title, and I don't imagine that I will be until I see the film. I'm guessing the tone and theme(s) of the picture will ultimately support the title. But, to be fair, I didn't like Batman Begins as a title either. And it's probably the second best comic-book, superhero movie ever made.

Nolan's version of Gotham along with the casting of Tom Hardy strongly suggests someone like Black Mask. And I'm really kind of hoping that's who it is. Black Mask makes way too much sense in Nolan's Gotham. And it would be nice for Wayne to have a foe as big as Batman's.

I don't recall a recurring villain like this. But I'm no expert either.

Honestly, Catwoman kind of fits this role. In the comics she comes from troubled beginnings, much like Wayne. She's a cat-burgler, not some crazy cat lady who meows and bathes herself with her tongue (hot as that might be).

With a couple of creative tweaks, she could easily fill the role you're describing. She would also make a nice love interest for Black Mask, should they choose to go that route. It might be nice to see a love triangle between Roman Sionis (Black Mask), Wayne and whichever Catwoman they choose to use. Could be fun to see Wayne sort of "steal" her away from Roman since Roman believes Wayne also stole his parents, his legacy, and their company/fortune.

I thought that one of the "next" villians was going to be Catwoman just because of what Morgan Freeman says in the last movie.

They're talking about keeping dogbites and Bruce Wayne says "will it stop a dog?" And Freeman responds "it'll stop a cat".

I thought that was foreshadowing, but I really hope they don't recycle all the same villians.

It could be really cool if they can pull it off; if they can keep it grounded in the mostly realistic world that Nolan has created. I'd love to see them give it a shot.

And I think I'd love to see Bane as well. Especially if they keep it closer to the origin story from the comics. And maybe ditch the weird super-strength venum, nonsense. Just make him a super intellectual killer. A Hannibal Lecter/Dexter Morgan type of guy who's built like a brick house. Could really work, and stretch the limits of Batman's physical ability.

I could live with Catwoman if they keep it simple and psychologial; more faithful to her origins from the book.

But, yeah, ultimately, I'd like to see something new/different/unexpected. One of the things made Batman Begins so great was the use of fantastic villains we hadn't seen on screen before. I'd love to see them come full circle and give us a couple more we've never seen fully realized on film.

Also, if you're looking for forshadowing... Victor Zsasz is seen briefly in Batman Begins, during the break-out at Arkham. Maybe they'll bring him back. Last we saw, he was still on the loose.

If it is Penguin, I say they bring Danny Devito back.

There's nothing at all cartoony about the first two movies, which makes a rotund midget with a fetish for umbrellas seem like a pretty poor fit (much in the same way that the riddler was). Catwoman's been overdone, and I don't think Bane is enough to carry a movie on his own. Not sure how well Black Mask would work.

Who's your dog in this fight, then?

Killer Croc would certainly be a fan favorite, but might stretch the limits of Nolan's "nothing at all cartoony" Gotham. Freeze and Poison Ivy are out, and already done besides. We know there's no Joker. No Riddler. Al Ghul is dead. They could concievably bring back Dent, but it seems unlikely. Scarecrow is still out there... but who else is there?

It's kind of a shame that Al Ghul really is dead, and I don't see any way they could integrate Lazarus pits.

Although...Rising....?

Maybe they could make it a Lazarus project, and have Al Ghul cloned or something. Either way, I've always loved that character, and I was mightily unhappy to see him die at the end of BB.

And since his squeeze is dead, it would be a great time to introduce Talia, who could be a really complex character...

Damnt......The Riddler would have been an awesome villian in Nolan's Gotham.

I grew a Marvel guy and didn't really follow DC and have been out of the loop completely for awhile, so I have had to look up some of these villains.

Killer Croc looks like a rip-off of Marvel's The Lizard, except for the part of turning into a friend of Batman's so that he has to be careful when fighting him (apparently, that part goes to Man-Bat).

****! I completely forgot about Talia!

Yes. That. They should do that. I love it. Especially if this is a three movie arc with a beginning, middle and end. It makes too much sense.

Excellent call, Keg.

Though, I'd still love to see Black Mask and I think he could work as well. If they plan on doing a "two villain" sort of thing, I'd really love to see Talia and Black Mask.

Yeah, similar I guess. But it's comics. They seem to do like that from time to time. They're different enough.

Though, since Spider-Man has confirmed that the Lizard is the villain in the new movie, it feels like it would be folly for TDKR to use such a similiar character.

The Black Mask plz.

Each of the Nolan films has had 3 Super Villains

Batman Begins:
-Ra's Al Ghul
-Scarecrow
-Zsasz

The Dark Knight:
-Joker
-Two-Face
-Scarecrow

That leads me to believe that there will be 3 in the new film as well.

Also, IIRC, the Gotham City Mob was pretty much disassembled in TDK. That means Black Mask would be PERFECT for the new movie.

Yeah, I'm getting myself way too excited and worked up about Black Mask. I need to settle down, or I'll end up disappointing myself. Which is stupid.

So if there are three..
- Black Mask
- Talia al Ghul
- ???

Who's your pick for number three?

I never even heard of Zsasz until Arkham Asylum came out. They had that character in Batman Begins? I don't even remember it.

I really want to see Bane, but I doubt it will ever happen. I really hope that Talia is not one of the 3.

Why's that?

She's an integral part of the Batman universe, but to be honest with you, I am a huge sexist when it comes to actors and I'd rather see all men super villains. I always feel like a man can perform better than a woman. Thats pretty much it.

He's only in it for a second. It's really brief, and if you've never heard of him or you don't know what you're looking for, you'll miss it.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images...20zsasz3kf.jpg

:)

Talia could be a really great way to bookend Ra's story, as well as fun way to get in a different kind of love interest for Wayne.

Deathstroke or Hush

Oooooh! Very nice. Hush could be wonderful, a genuine surprise. Well done, Tribal.

Hush would be a cool one if he could manipulate other villains like he did in "Hush."

ahhh, I remember that scene now. I would have never caught that.

And he was also friends with Wayne in his childhood, like Black Mask. That could weave a fun little backstory.

Yeah, it was so fast. Just a little easter egg for the hardcore fans who were really paying attention.

I didn't see it until the second or third time that I watched BB.

No, Joker was still a HUGE influence but from what i read the movie was suppose to be more about TwoFace like 60/40 if you will, but Ledger died after the fact so they reworked some of the film to make it more centric on him.. The third one was also going to be about the Joker..

The Dark Knight vs Dent's White Knight.. But Ledger literally stole the show..

I can't imagine how that could be possible. The movie is about Batman and Harvey Dent, but the Joker is basically the engine that makes the plot go, and almost every scene he's in is necessary.

Whatever you read couldn't be more false

I seem to recall hearing that they did cut a lot of Harvey Dent/Twoface scenes. Don't know how true that is but I remember something about that. A lot of people complained about that fact.

If Christopher Nolan felt those edited scenes were important, I guarantee they'd have been in the film.

I was told directly that the scenes were cut because they dragged down the narrative. Personally, I think that Aaron has the appeal of an old, worn out shoe (although I admit, there is a personal issue that sways that opinion), just above Bill Pullman on the scale of uninteresting.

But with that being said, there are always tons of scenes left on the cutting room floor, the most egregious, IMO, are scenes of James Caan in the original Godfather movie.

But that's a different discussion altogether.

I've never been a fan of Eckhart myself but I did like what he did with the character. It really fit him well.

Because he's a two-faced dick?

Yep, that's him in a nutshell.

Sounds like there is a story there. Do tell. :D

Not here, my friend.

Well, you know how to find me. Don't leave me hanging man.

:)

That's sad to hear. But not all together surprising. But yeah, I thought he did a great job as Harvey Two-Face. One of the best things I've seen him do.

So Perez Hilton (uggh) is "reporting" that Tom Hardy is playing Hugo Strange. Haven't seen an official announcement yet, but there ya go. For what it's worth.

Not bad at all.

It's great news (I think), if it's true. Still haven't seen anything offcial. But I love it.

Though there is this:


Michael Caine on The Dark Knight Rises Schedule
Source: Empire November 19, 2010


Michael Caine, who plays Alfred in Christopher Nolan's Batman movies, previously said that he thought The Dark Knight Rises would "probably start in May next year."

He's now given Empire magazine a little clearer picture of the film's shooting schedule: "Emma [Thomas], the producer, said we'd get the script in January. Christopher said: 'Script in January, shoot in May, finish in November.'"

Warner Bros. Pictures has set a July 20, 2012 release date for The Dark Knight Rises.



Read more: Michael Caine on The Dark Knight Rises Schedule - ComingSoon.net http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movie...#ixzz15l6RZ3EV

I kind of hope it is Hush.

http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00036870.html

If that is the case, it sounds too much like the Joker from the previous Batman series. The modern Hugo Strange is a psychiatrist that has a machine that basically tells him all the rich gothamites secrets, which he uses to blackmail them with... and Bruce Wayne, for some reason, uses it, and Strange finds out he is Batman.

Gee, sounds like Batman Forever.

Obviously, it depends on what direction Nolan & Co take the character. But some variation on the "Prey" and/or "Terror" storylines seems to work all too well in the Gotham that Nolan has already established. From wikipedia:

Partly due to Hugo Strange's appearance on TV as a psychological expert, Captain Gordon is ordered to put together a Task Force to capture Batman, with Strange working as a consultant to try to discover Batman's identity. As the investigation continues, however, Strange grows increasingly monomaniacal in his obsession with Batman. His greatest desire is to become Batman. To that end, he has attempts to kill the Caped Crusader, and then take his place. Strange eventually concludes that Bruce Wayne is most likely Batman, brainwashes the head of the police Task Force into becoming a lethal vigilante to turn public sentiment against Batman, and kidnaps the mayor's daughter. He is ultimately caught, shot twice and dumped into a river; it was then assumed he had died.

However, in Doug Moench's "Terror" storyline, Strange mysteriously comes back. He decides to work with another of Batman's enemies, the Scarecrow, and use him as a tool to help him capture Batman. Scarecrow turns on Strange, however, impaling him on a weather vane and throwing him in the cellar of his own mansion. The Scarecrow then uses Strange's mansion as a trap for Batman.

Some of that (with just minor tweeks) makes way too much sense.

Talk about not giving Nolan credit. ;) :)

He won't deserve credit if he uses that storyline. With the exception of the villian being different it is the exact same story as Forever.

News!

Tom Hardy to play Bane is intriging! He was excellent in Inception.

Lets just say I'll be glad that I'm watching Anne Hathaway in something other than another stupid chick flick picked out by the wife.

Nice! Think they'll bring back that form fitting leather outfit for Hathaway?

And just to think out loud - I think outside of being a Lear Jet pilot, my next choice for a job would be movie producer. How exactly does one break into that field? Dane?

No Robin?
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Bane.... interesting... Can honestly say I didn't see that coming. Very excited to see what they do with this.

Bane kills Batman does he not? (in the comics)

Nolan said this would be the last Batman flick he does (or so I heard)....wonder if Bale dies in this one?

I think he breaks his back.

Yeah, Bane breaks Batman's back. He does not kill him. I can't imagine they'd wrap the whole series with Batman broken... but you never know. I'd guess that if they're going in that direction it would happen closer to the front of the film.

Whatever happens, I'm in.