Jake Long not at top of FA LT list
 

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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...nsive-tackles/

Soooo worth it for Miami to go with the "sure thing" over the "risky QB"

**** jake long! Whoever thinks hes better than Albert is crazy

WE NEED JOEKEL

/idiots

They should have drafted DeCastro to play next to him.

they should sign Albert and move him to guard.

I was pimping hard for JL and I was still right. We were picking at 5. I was sooo shocked and disappointed that Miami took him at the top of the draft. I agree. He was overdrafted by 5 spots.

I don't understand how PFF grades Albert's run blocking so low when our OL gains a vastly better YPC behind him than it does anywhere else.

Even the Jones/Battle duo averaged 5.0 YPC behind Albert.

the media told me that there aren't any QB's worth drafting so we should go with the LT!!!!!! Look at Miami and Cleveland, a top pick at LT translates to success!

Let's add Trent Williams and Russell Okung to that! I mean the Redskins and Seahawks were in the playoffs, right? Because of the left tackle play!

Oh and we can throw the Jaguars with their genius pick of Eugene Monroe!

None of these teams needed a QB. Just plug and play the left tackle and watch the trophies pile up.

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport
Two O-linemen who will garner much attention in free agency: T Jake Long and G Andy Levitre. Long getting clean bill of health.
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Long may have a clean bill of health, but he still has a lot of explaining to do. Such as why he has regressed each year since his rookie season.

Um....how is he not at the top of the list?
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He's not the best left tackle? Just a guess.

It's hilarious how anti-LT some of you are.

Andy Levitre please.

Blaine Gabbert disagrees.

Drafting a shitty quarterback doesn't mean that you didn't need a quarterback.

Why lump Gabbert in with shitty QBs? You mad Bro at shitty QBs?

They have Vollmer ranked as #1... ????? I like Vollmer quite a bit but that is crazy talk. For me there are only two concerns regarding Long... but they are HUGE concerns.

#1 is he truly healthy and can he stay healthy
#2 has Miami ruined him mentally

I honestly think an organization as poorly run as Miami can "ruin" a player. You can only take so much futility and frustration before it effects you. If Long ends up back in Miami I have ZERO expectations that he will bounce back to form and be a top 3 tackle... but if he goes to a team that isn;t a complete joke then I expect him to be right back in the top 5 IF (huge if) he stays healthy.

I'd love to see his value plummet and us get him to play RT but that is a pipe dream... in the end I'll be plenty happy with anyone like Cherilus, Smith, Vollmer or Loadholt. :D

And yet, Jacksonville will still decide they like Gabbert better than any QB in this draft.

Vollmer had a better year than Long, who was no better than average.

Your homerism for this man is reaching extreme levels.

I only trust posted tweets if they come from ChiefsandOsfan. He is the undisputed king of the twitter sphere.

I like Vollmer and he did have a GREAT year but unless Long continues to be an injury problem, you'd be an idiot to think Vollmer is better overall. The one thing Vollmer has going for him over Long is his proven versatility.

A healthy AND motivated Long is an elite LT. Period. It remains to be seen if both those conditions will ever be met again in the future, I'm honest enough to admit that.

Offensive line is teh debil!!!!!!

This will probably describe Joke-el in 5 years.

Not sure Seattle is a great example. They've picked a QB high (Mirer) and stunk. They took a tackle high (Jones) and acquired a retread QB (hasselback) and won. Now, they've taken a mid-round QB and won.

Long sucks and has been injured the past 2 years. Albert has been better than Long and Clady whom the national media thinks is better than Albert.

Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo

Per @AdamSchefter estimate just now on SportsCenter, only Mike Wallace will cross $10m APY in FA. Jake Long could be in for rude awakening.

Hey this time it's different, we arn't drafting a LT to play LT with our first we are drafting a LT to play RT with our first. It hasn't been done so away we go...


Joekeloff may bust at LT but the easy life of playing RT may just make him hold sollid at that position.

It's hilarious how utterly myopic you are.

I'm not sure you know what myopic means.

Hello RT Jake Long, welcome to KC.

Jake Long, DRC, and Brad Jones.


Good FA haul there.

I know there has been smoke about DRC but have the other 2 been linked here as well?

When reading the OP I couldn't help but think of Roaf coming here off of injury and the results. Yeah I remember we traded for him.

we need a center .. and lots of D help ...

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How about I just cut to the chase and tell you you're a ****ing windowlicking moron then?

I think that's a better call. At least you probably know what those words mean.

LMAO

If we signed Jake Long to be our RT would there still be talk of us taking Jokel? Yes there would.

and you think Matt Ryan is gold? his leash is on and it's getting shorter every season. He's had all world Tony G for years and still hasn't done squat.

not that Long is my choice here, hell, he has major injury issues. I would not like him here.

Ryan's leash is getting so much shorter that he's thrown for more touchdowns each year of his career and more yards every year other than his second season where he missed two games.

I wish we had a QB on a leash that could throw for 4700+ yards and 32 TDs before winning a playoff game and throwing for 650 yards and six touchdowns.

The Germans love that guy!

Yeah. The reason the Falcons didn't go to the SB wasn't because of Ryan; it was because of their dogshit defense.

I'd roll the dice on Long.

From which we just signed a member. :(

Looking more and more like Clady and Brown were the best LT's from that draft.

Get off the drugs, son.

I wish we had a QB with an upcoming $100m leash!

I wish we had a QB.
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LMAO

Since 2008, Atlanta spent the #3 overall pick on Matt Ryan, traded two second round picks on Sam Baker to protect him (#34, #48 & #103), a second round pick in 2010 for Tony Gonzalez (#50), then traded for Julio Jones to help him even more and spent #27, #59 and #124 in 2011 and #22 and #120 in the 2012 draft.

That's two 1st rounders, four 2nd rounders and three fourth rounders to help out Matt Ryan.

Since acquiring Ryan with the #3 overall pick in 2008, the Atlanta Falcons have won exactly ONE playoff game.

How ANYONE could believe that the Miami Dolphins would have been better off with Matt Ryan as their QB, especially without giving up an absolutely egregious amount of picks in order to surround him with talent, is beyond me.

That's all speculation, man. Just because one team spent that much surrounding him with talent....doesn't mean that the other team would have. And that's not even to say that the Dolphins couldn't have succeeded with Ryan as their QB and not overspending to surround him with talent.

Speculation? What's the speculation?

Matt Ryan has been an underperforming NFL QB. Period. Like Matt Stafford, he hasn't been a Franchise QB. He's led them to ONE playoff game in 5 seasons, yet the GM has bent over backwards to surround him with talent.

Unless the Falcons win the Super Bowl next year (not likely), it wouldn't surprise me to see them move on to a different QB.

Why pay Matt Ryan $15 million a year when he can't win shit?

Matt Ryan is not the problem with the Falcons. The problem with the Falcons is the fact that they build a 14-21 point lead and then the OC takes his foot off of the pedal. The problem is that they put a square RB in a round hole with Turner.

They've also gone 14-2 twice IIRC and every one of their playoff losses have come to a SB participant (Cards, Packers, Giants, 49ers).

The Dolphins were in a completely different situation than the Falcons, though. The Falcons had a decent team but had no backup plan for Vick, leading to Leftwich and Harrington to start. Their coach quit on them, but they had other pieces on the team already(Abraham, White, Babineaux, etc).

Miami had some decent parts, but not to the extent of Atlanta.

You're including fourth rounders in this equation to demonstrate this egregious amount of picks over five seasons? How about the two first rounders and four third rounders they spent on defense? In theory, isn't that pretty balanced?

LMAO Falcons moving on from Matt Ryan.

That is one teams "trash" I would gladly get behind the Chiefs pursuing.

The Falcons have allowed 30, 48, 24, 28, and 28 points in the five playoff games with Ryan at the trigger. Must be Ryan's fault they give up 32 points per game on average in the postseason even though they have scored fewer than 24 points exactly once in those five games.

So now Ryan is just some above average qb? This place cracks me up.

Oh, stop being a dickhead.

The point is that Atlanta has sacrificed draft choice after draft choice in order to surround Matt Ryan with talent and they've got almost nothing to show for it in five seasons.

Pretty much the same as Miami since taking Jake Long.

But if you're going to compare the draft choices of Matt Ryan to Jake Long and state that Miami "did the safe thing", Atlanta should have something to show for it, right?

Right?

QBs who complete nearly 70% of their passes and throw for 4700 yards are yesterdays news.

Do you actually think that Matt Ryan is elite?

Drafting players on offense is sacrificing draft choices? Are they supposed to just pick 28 defensive players and no offensive players?

Without any reservation.

Four playoff appearances in five seasons...all ending with poor defensive showings

And in winning those division titles, they've gone up against such wicked teams such as the Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Bucs and the declining Saints.

The bottom line is that selecting Ryan over Jake Long wouldn't have necessarily provided different results for either team.

Playoff appearances mean jack shit if you do nothing.

Agree to disagree on that one.

I think Ryan is very similar to the QB they traded: Matt Schaub.

And I don't think Schaub is elite.

So maybe if they hadn't given up two first rounders, three second rounders and those fourth round picks, they could have filled their defensive holes?

It possibly could have. How many QBs have the Dolphins drafted/signed since they drafted Jake Long?

All of those picks/money could have been spent on other positions.

What the **** will Smyth win? Answer: jack AND ****. So there's that,yes.
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Not elite... well above average but not elite.

And people acting like the Dolphins somehow would be better off with Ryan is ludicrous. That organization is so ****ed. Yes, we all know QB is the most important position but let's not swing so far to delusional that we think a QB can fix a completely dysfunctional org.

Schaub is just a journeyman. Ryan will end up in the hof.

Well then.....the Patriots have wasted draft picks and money surrounding Tom Brady with weapons.....and won jack shit since 2005. What a ****ing waste....

They picked 2 QBs in the ****ing 2nd round 2 consecutive seasons in a row(Beck being prior to Long and White) as well as taking Tannehill in the 1st.

lol what