*****Trade analysis superthread 2013*****
I figured we may as well have a big thread for trade advice as it will likely get lost in the repository thread.
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I just got offered a trade which I'm not a huge fan of but was intrigued enough to ask around. I won't tell you which side is mine to keep you impartial.
Team 1: Montee Ball, Torrey Smith Team 2: Eddie Lacy, Cecil Shorts What do you guys think? |
Ball and Torrey easy for me.
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Lacy is coming on strong as a 2nd round pick. Shorts, while not having name recognition, should put together a solid year. I would rather have those two, honestly.
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Ball is going to start for Denver
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It is a PPR league btw. |
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I think Lacy has a better chance of getting more touches. Ball is gonna lose some carries to Hillman and Manning audibles.
But I don't care for Cecil Shorts much. Guys like him will be on the waiver wire all year. |
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Giving up possible RB production is a much bigger deal than gaining some WR production. |
It is a close one but with Lacy as my #17 RB and Shorts as the #25 WR I would take that tandem over Ball (#30 RB) and T. Smith (#18 WR)
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Need to see the rest of your team before I can decide.
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QB: Matt Ryan, Eli Manning WR: Danny Amendola, Marques Colston, Michael Floyd, Chris Givens, Cecil Shorts RB: Jamaal Charles, DeMarco Murray, Eddie Lacy, David Wilson TE: Jason Witten, Rob Housler K: Alex Henery DEF: Patriots, Giants Team 2: QB: Aaron Rodgers WR: Victor Cruz, Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin, T.Y. Hilton, Kenbrell Thompkins RB: Steven Jackson, Doug Martin, Montee Ball, Ben Tate, Shane Vereen TE: Jared Cook, Rob Gronkowski K: Caleb Sturgis, Rob Bironas DEF: Cardinals |
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Standard league, I was offered Bowe for Reggie Wayne. Leaning toward taking it...
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I'm Team 1, btw. |
I have an embarrassment of riches at the RB position (Charles, Spiller, Bush, and Miller in a 1/2 ppr) and only Greg Olsen as TE.
Would you consider this a good trade: Greg Olsen + Lamar Miller for Witten (+ Fasano)? I already offered to someone else: Greg Olsen + Lamar Miller for Gronkowski (+ some scrub), which I don't expect to happen in preseason. Maybe once Lamar proves some people wrong and if Olsen has a good start to the season. I'm really set at QB, WR, and RB, but want to improve my TE. Or is the non-sexy Greg Olsen better than any of those offers? (Oh, we only start 2 RB's with an open-flex position which will be occupied by my 2nd QB) |
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Olsen is going to be Newton's #2 target in the passing game. I'd stick with him and keep your awesome RB depth.
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Any other votes? |
So, I was just proposed a straight-up trade: <b>Gronkowski for my backup Reggie Bush</b>.
I think Bush is up for a monster year (at least pass-catching), but he is my backup for Spiller and Charles and I still have Lamar Miller in the wings. It lets me keep Greg Olsen though, which really should be a very good 1-2 TE combination, and should make me stronger in the playoffs. Assuming Gronk is taken off the PUP list tomorrow, what do you think? ----- I lean toward doing it since it gives me a large upgrade on the TE position, even if most lists have Bush about 5-10 ranks ahead of Gronk on the list of all ranked projected fantasy players. |
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Assuming its non-ppr I'd rather have Gronk than Bush, and I like Bush a lot.
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I can suffer through with Olsen (as was my previous plan anyway) until Gronk can come back and hopefully dominate like he has historically. I like Bush alot as well.. but the chance to improve my starters was too great to pass up. |
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Trying to figure out a trade to land my handcuff Ben Tate. I need some help. 12 team PPR.
My team: SLOT PLAYER, TEAM POS ACQ QB Andrew Luck, Ind*QB Draft RB Arian Foster, Hou*RB**P Draft WR Randall Cobb, GB*WR**P Draft TE Jordan Cameron, Cle*TE**P Draft FLEX Reggie Bush, Det*RB Draft FLEX Victor Cruz, NYG*WR**P Draft D/ST Ravens D/ST*D/ST Draft K Randy Bullock, Hou*K Free Agency Bench Giovani Bernard, Cin*RB Draft Bench Vincent Brown, SD*WR Draft Bench Greg Jennings, Min*WR Draft Bench Ryan Mathews, SD*RB Draft Bench Denarius Moore, Oak*WR Draft Bench Emmanuel Sanders, Pit*WR Draft IR Percy Harvin*, Sea*WR**O Draft His team: QB Peyton Manning, Den*QB Draft RB Chris Johnson, Ten*RB Draft WR Dwayne Bowe, KC*WR Draft TE Jermichael Finley, GB*TE Draft FLEX DeSean Jackson, Phi*WR Draft FLEX Trent Richardson, Cle*RB Draft D/ST Rams D/ST*D/ST Draft K David Akers, Det*K Draft Bench Dwayne Allen, Ind*TE**P Draft Bench Santonio Holmes, NYJ*WR**Q Draft Bench Daryl Richardson, StL*RB Draft Bench Alex Smith, KC*QB Draft Bench Torrey Smith, Bal*WR**P Draft Bench Ben Tate, Hou*RB Draft IR * |
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I think you are looking pretty good on RB's though. Other than maybe the start of the season, I think the fear for Foster this year is that he will have a nagging injury and may be run down a bit. (His ypc have consistently fallen.) The end result of that is instead of Foster dominating the carries, he may end up with a 60% - 40% time share with Tate. In that scenario, having Tate doesn't really help you that much. |
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Ball isn't a 'take it to the house guy' and hasn't shown anything special so far and Denver's O-line is suspect like ours in the run game. |
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Witten is Romo's BINKY at all times and rarely gets hurt. Hell he came back last year before he was actually ready and still produced. Tough as hell. |
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1. Our interior O-line better get better quickly IF Charles is to have a good to great year. Initially he will only be good out of the backfield and at the WR/Slot positions IMHO and then once opposing D's realize our interior O-line sucks they will start to game for Charles out of the backfield/slot positions and take that away as well. 2. Spiller - injury risk, inconsistent and he plays for the Bills who have QB drama going on which means teams will stack the box until their QB play gets better. 3. Bush - HIGH injury risk and plays behind an O-line that is just about as bad as our interior O-line which means teams will do the same to the Dolphins as they do to the Chiefs. See point 1. 4. Miller - see point 1 without the injury risk. |
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Offer him Jennings and either Bush/Mathews for Smith/Tate and see if he will bite on the big name factor !! |
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But on a more serious note. PPR rankings ? Seriously ?? You are going by somebody's so-called projected analysis numbers and where they are supposedly suppose to rank this year and not their real past history ? Here is just small micro-example of how wrong and inaccurate a lot of these so-called projected analysis/value rankings(magazines/so-called expersts) can be. Remember the big Darren McFadden craze just recently when everyone and their brother said THIS was his breakout year and he would just absolutely TEAR IT UP ?? Almost every ranking had him top 5 RB if not higher that year. What happened ? McFadden got injured. They are to some degree doing this to Bush this year and they(so-called experts) have always had a 'woody' for Mathews as well waiting for his so called break out year. Won't happen for either one of these guys because their 'real history' say's INJURY PRONE to the point of not drafting from my perspective. Jennings has been VERY injury prone in the last 3yrs and is in the latter stages of his career while Ponder is throwing to him. The so-called experts do this every year by PIMPING UP a select few so-called BIG NAMES that have NEVER produced big fantasy numbers 'consistently' in their careers due to their 'consistent injuries' every year. Jennings,Mathews and Bush are walking injuries !!! Honestly DO YOUR OWN RANKINGS/RESEARCH based on REAL HISTORICAL EVIDENCE FIRST and then your fantasy draft and play will improve. Here's a tip. Never fall in love with the BIG NAME alone. The consistent production and very little injury history MUST BE PRESENT to warrant a draft pick IMO. If you do risk it better be in the very late rounds. A lot of the times the BIG NAME does match up with the consistent BIG PLAY and a lot of the times the BIG NAME is just that and no more. The wise analyst can see the difference. Nothing personal here just trying to help BUT I think you are 'that guy' that automatically loves the BIG NAME without looking at the 'real evidence'. |
Got offered Doug Martin, Nicks, Steve Smith and Britt for Ridley, Steven Jax, Pierre Garçon and Josh Gordon. I have Trent Richardson and Ahmad Bradshaw as backups but I think I'm declining this. I love my RB depth and Garçon.
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Here is my pro/con analysis of your situation FWIW: Doug Martin=Good-will get a lot of carries because Schiano like to run and that is Schiano's boy he picked and that division is weak against the run IMO. Nicks=Fair-only because he is getting injured more often and Manning and his offense have a bad tendency these past few years to go in 'FUNKS" for weeks at a time which YOU cannot afford BUT when their O is on Nicks and Cruz really cruise! I wish you had Cruz instead of Nicks here if you are dealing with Manning because he targets Cruz more. Steve Smith=Fair-I'm not a Newton fan and since Newton has become the Panthers QB, Smith's production is not what it used to be. Yes he is the only NO.1 target BUT defenses know this and double him now thus the reason for less production. If Cam were more mature and had a legit No.2 I would say Smith goes from 'fair' to 'good' !! Britt=Good-flat out playmaker regardless of his 5 cent head off the field. When he is on the field he balls !! Locker has finally realized how good Britt is and will target him even more. Having CJ as his teammate only helps his production. Ridley=Fair-Ridley is tearing it up in pre-season and looks to be 'the guy'. But when since Corey Dillion has Bellichek every gone with 'the one guy' at RB ??? There you go. Don't get me wrong I like how Ridley runs be he does not get enough touches for me because of Bellichek. Steven Jackson=Fair-he will not get enough touches as well in this RBBC approach either. The only thing you can hope for is that since he is in a weak Run D division as well that he gets all the goal line touches. Rogers is on the rise and will get more touches and this Vaughn kid is a young Michael Turner. Of those 3 backs I would want Rogers for now. Pierre Garcon=Good- Both RGIII and Cousins trust this guy and he should produce and Shanahan loves this guy. And if Shanny loves you, you will get targeted. Josh Gordon=Good- I want to give this player an 'excellent' rating but I don't quite trust Weeden just yet. I love this kid's balling ability. He is like watching a man among boys competing for the ball and making big plays. Trent Richardson=tentative Good- I think Jim Brown was right saying that TR is soft and so far it is proving true. Yes he can be a playmaker and he will get the touches but can he stay healthy ? Ahmad Bradshaw=Fair-yes he is a playmaker but hell he has missed all of the pre-season because of injuries and he has consistently shown since day one of his career that he is highly injury prone. I like the way that he runs but I'm not falling for the big name either. There you have it !! You decide ! |
Pretty solid analysis, but I think Steven Jackson is going to have a monster year. Terrible defensive division, playing with a ton of playmakers, gets all the goal line carries. I don't think he's going to be part of any committee in Atlanta.
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Last trade offer I received was DeMariyus Thomas/Tyler Eifert for Brent Celek/Stevan Ridley.
I have Richardson, Ridley and Jackson as my starting 3 (2 RBs/Flex) and Colston/Garcon as my starting WRs. |
Stick with Ridley.
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URGENT QUESTION!
I traded Gore for Charles. Should I try and unload Bowe??? |
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I guess the question is, is it a bad idea to have Charles AND Bowe? Or should I look to diversify? |
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Well I take the trade at 7:11 and the next night, the trade is removed. The owner, after proposing this deal to me and having it accepted, is now telling me he's going to hang on to Thomas. I told him good, he can rot with Robert Turbin as his #2. Yes, Robert Turbin is his 2nd back. It just pisses me off that he agreed to the deal and should be forced to uphold that unless Ridley gets hurt or something. |
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I could see if it was verbally agreed to and not posted. But it was offered to me, and accepted. I took Ridley over Thomas in this draft, so I obviously value Ridley but did not think I'd be able to build the RB depth I did. He has no other trade partners. The best offer he said he got for Thomas was Chris Ivory. But now he can screw himself. Unless Ridley got hurt, he should be obligated to complete the trade by the neutral commish who just manages the league and does not participate. But since that won't happen, I'm not doing business with a ****ing weasel. I hope Ridley goes off tomorrow so I can laugh. |
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Should i use my waiver claim on Terrel Pryor as my backup QB?
I start Newton and have Sam Bradford as my backup. |
Should I trade Welker straight up for L. McCoy? Its a 3wr, 2rb, 1flx PPR league and I'm stacked at WR (Wayne, Bowe, Nelson, D. Jackson, Sanders, Thompkins) but weak at RB (Bush, Sproles, Bernard, and Miller).
I hate to lose Welker's upside, but I can match his point totals from one of the back ups. McCoy would start at Flex, pushing Bowe to the bench. Not a bad back up. The other guy has P. Manning, which is why the trade is being discussed. |
Just got offered Luck and Lamar Miller for either Jamaal Charles or Doug Martin. That would give me RBs of Charles/Martin, Lacy and Miller. My QBs would be Romo and Luck.
What do you think? Stick with Romo, Charles, Martin and Lacy? |
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Didnt see this thread earlier.........
Got offered Calvin Johnson and Hakeem Nicks for Dez Bryant and Cobb...... Thoughts? |
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Do it. |
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Give up Chris Johnson and receive Alfred Morris. Yes or no?
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Miller has a sucky O-line and something tells me that Luck won't be as effective stat wise this year as he was last meaning he does have good WRs and himself but that's it ! He has a suck O-line as well which means he will be rushing passes. When Oakland can damn near beat you at home on opening day that is NOT a good sign. |
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I get your point, but he won't do this year what he did last year IMO. I see him between 1400-1600 at best this year which is still very good. |
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Stay with Welker I say until you see Shady continue his success then do the deal. Also see if you can pick up J Bell the handcuff RB to Bush. Bush is already hurting even after a good game and it's just a matter of time IMO until Bush pusses out with injuries. |
My starting QB is Romo. I've been trying to get Kaepernick off this owner for a week now. Guy has Peyton Manning too so he has to move Kaep.
He offered me Kaep for Vernon Davis today. My backup TE is Brent Celek. I'm debating taking it and then flipping Romo for a WR. Thoughts? |
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I would probably do that Kaep for Davis deal, but Davis is likely going to be pretty legit this year. Like top 5 legit. |
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I just got offered Tavon Austin and Cecil Shorts for my Wes Welker. Don't think Ill go ahead with this one.
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Would u give up Ryan Mathews to get roddy white, even with the high ankle sprain?
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