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DJ's left nut 01-31-2019 11:30 AM

Man. Mizzou needs better lawyers. We just got drilled for some shit far less egregious than a ton of schools have skated on.

So I guess we're a wrestling school now?

ChiTown 01-31-2019 11:32 AM

Gawdamn, that's harsh

Rams Fan 01-31-2019 11:37 AM

Damn guys, that sucks.

It’s BS UNC got away with what they did.

DJ's left nut 01-31-2019 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 14083138)
Gawdamn, that's harsh

I'm not sure Mizzou could've shown up to the hearing and confessed to ordering a code red and been worse off.

Seriously - this is simply a wholesale repudiation of any kind of defense Mizzou put forward. Had Mizzou come out and said "yeah, Odom, Jamieson and Earleywine were all telling tutors to do the coursework at the guidance of Jim Sterk" I'm not sure the penalties would've been any more severe.

1 tutor and 12 kids over 3 sports and they drop a ****ing hammer. I really don't get it. That's remarkably draconian for what amounts to relatively minor academic eligibility crap. When you look at the shady shit all these teams do to get kids eligible to sign to begin with and the NCAA looks the other way, it blows my mind that they put Mizzou on blast for this.

I'm not even mad as much as I'm just damn puzzled.

siberian khatru 01-31-2019 11:38 AM

Un. ****ing. Believable.

All this for one rogue tutor.

Quote:

A former University of Missouri, Columbia, tutor violated NCAA ethical conduct, academic misconduct and academic extra benefits rules when she completed academic work for 12 student-athletes, according to a Division I Committee on Infractions panel.

Although the tutor said she felt pressure to ensure student-athletes passed courses, according to the committee’s report, the investigation did not support that her colleagues directed her to complete the student-athletes’ work.

In its decision, the committee stated, “Simply put, 12 student-athletes did not complete their own work.” It continued that the tutor engaged in the activity despite receiving extensive and comprehensive education on appropriate tutoring practices.
UNC had systemic FAKE COURSES, but because these FAKE COURSES were provided to non-athletes, no sanction.

Titty Meat 01-31-2019 11:40 AM

That's the difference between the 45th ranked law school and the 65th

CoMoChief 01-31-2019 11:42 AM

This has been going on for yrs. This was about 15yrs ago during Brad Smith era, but me and a football player friend of mine would use their practice facility computer lab a lot. There would be players in there taking exams and teachers used to sit down with them and would basically give them the answers and do the tests for them.

Rams Fan 01-31-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 14083159)
This has been going on for yrs. This was about 15yrs ago during Brad Smith era, but me and a football player friend of mine would use their practice facility computer lab a lot. There would be players in there taking exams and teachers used to sit down with them and would basically give them the answers and do the tests for them.

The shit at UNC happened for years yet they didn’t get punished.

CoMoChief 01-31-2019 11:49 AM

But this goes on everywhere, just depends on who gets caught and how well they cover shit up on campus. I literally watched half of Quin's bball team cheat on their final exams. And I think people are niave to think this doesnt go on...some of these players can barely read, add, or speak proper English but then they graduate with a 3.6 or 3.7GPA?

Lol c'mon man...

DJ's left nut 01-31-2019 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 14083159)
This has been going on for yrs. This was about 15yrs ago during Brad Smith era, but me and a football player friend of mine would use their practice facility computer lab a lot. There would be players in there taking exams and teachers used to sit down with them and would basically give them the answers and do the tests for them.

Jamaal Charles maintained eligibility at UT for 3 seasons and he is literally stupid enough to be declared mentally reeruned and be allowed to participate in the Special Olympics because of it. LITERALLY.

Man, they must have some ****ing fantastic tutors at UT.

Oh wait, no - that's not right. Because Jamaal still couldn't string consecutive thoughts together when he left.

Keeping athletes eligible by hook or by crook has been a time honored tradition for every Division 1 program for decades. It's the rolling a stop sign of the NCAA Guidelines. It's going 5 over in a 55. Nobody has ever given a ****.

But because UNC embarrassed the shit out of the NCAA with their "well yeah, but ALL of our students have an opportunity to get a meaningless degree" defense and Mizzou's attorneys were stupid enough to concede that she committed an honor code violation in their responses, the NCAA used them to make an example of.

Just remarkable really.

CoMoChief 01-31-2019 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 14083176)
The shit at UNC happened for years yet they didn’t get punished.

I know. Its ridiculous.

I've had friends that went to class at KU with Brandon Rush, told me the guy literally couldnt read and went to class maybe once a week if that. Not sure how the guy stays academically eligible if hes in college and cant read and doesnt go to class.

Oh wait...yeah I do!

siberian khatru 01-31-2019 12:01 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In its report, the Committee on Infractions directly addresses the difference between Mizzou and UNC&#39;s cases, which is, essentially, Mizzou admitted to there being fraud and UNC did not. <a href="https://t.co/QZfxIslGC5">pic.twitter.com/QZfxIslGC5</a></p>&mdash; Stewart Mandel (@slmandel) <a href="https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1091027405462851585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Jerm 01-31-2019 12:03 PM

So we should've just lied our asses off and got a bunch of lawyers....great message NCAA you bunch of useless ****s.

DJ's left nut 01-31-2019 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 14083212)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In its report, the Committee on Infractions directly addresses the difference between Mizzou and UNC&#39;s cases, which is, essentially, Mizzou admitted to there being fraud and UNC did not. <a href="https://t.co/QZfxIslGC5">pic.twitter.com/QZfxIslGC5</a></p>&mdash; Stewart Mandel (@slmandel) <a href="https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1091027405462851585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Again - this is so ludicrous that I can't even get mad. It is just outright hilarious.

Lie for over a decade, get caught and defend yourselves on the grounds that "We didn't violate our academic standards because we don't actually have any..." and you're golden.

****ing self report and say "yes, she violated our academic standards but against the training she was provided and without express direction from anyone associated with the University of Missouri" and you get a 3-sport post-season ban.

Even Kansas fans have to look at this one and shake their heads. I mean it truly is just unreal.

Matrix 01-31-2019 12:19 PM

I ****ing hate the NCAA as much as I do the NFL.


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