Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12706488)

Perhaps not something that could even be rationally considered, but how about Lynn/Garcia/Adams for Moustakas?

Lynn's a workhorse starter coming off injury. Obviously TJ isn't anything to just take for granted, but it's not appreciably more likely than an ACL surgery to linger. Both Lynn and Moustakas are pending FAs and would yield draft pick compensation if they walked (presuming the deal is made now). Lynn may be slightly less likely to hit that $50 million mark but if he has a solid second half, he'll get there, IMO. He's not a big time breaking ball pitcher so he'll find his form sooner than most and since he had his TJ surgery in spring last season, I would expect he'll be at full roar by May at the worst.

Adams has been discussed.

Greg Garcia is a guy that gets ****ed over more often than Butters Stotch. All that guy has done is outplay Kolten Wong at every level and at a harder position (SS). He played alongside Wong at Hawaii but was simply never as 'pedigreed' a player. Last year he finally gets some extended run and puts up a .393 OBP and 1.8 WAR in a whopping 250 plate appearances. The guy can be a good major league starting 2b and he's entering his prime, yet all we ever do in STL is bury his ass because he wasn't a shiny first round pick like that ****ing hyperactive terrier we gave a 5 year extension to.

The Royals would get 5 years of him and I'm telling you, this guy takes nothing but quality ABs. He'd be a 3-WAR player in a full-time role with ease, IMO. He's played SS his entire minor league/college career and when asked to sub at 2b, he's done so quite well.

Mostly, I just really want to see this kid get a shot somewhere and the Royals could use a long-term 2b in the worst way. He can play there and play well. I'd much rather send you Wong but I don't think anyone's fooled by that clown anymore.

If Moore thinks he can get Moustakas extended, that's definitely the route I'd take. But if they can't come to terms, wouldn't this be worth considering?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12706488)

Perhaps not something that could even be rationally considered, but how about Lynn/Garcia/Adams for Moustakas?

Lynn's a workhorse starter coming off injury. Obviously TJ isn't anything to just take for granted, but it's not appreciably more likely than an ACL surgery to linger. Both Lynn and Moustakas are pending FAs and would yield draft pick compensation if they walked (presuming the deal is made now). Lynn may be slightly less likely to hit that $50 million mark but if he has a solid second half, he'll get there, IMO. He's not a big time breaking ball pitcher so he'll find his form sooner than most and since he had his TJ surgery in spring last season, I would expect he'll be at full roar by May at the worst.

Adams has been discussed.

Greg Garcia is a guy that gets ****ed over more often than Butters Stotch. All that guy has done is outplay Kolten Wong at every level and at a harder position (SS). He played alongside Wong at Hawaii but was simply never as 'pedigreed' a player. Last year he finally gets some extended run and puts up a .393 OBP and 1.8 WAR in a whopping 250 plate appearances. The guy can be a good major league starting 2b and he's entering his prime, yet all we ever do in STL is bury his ass because he wasn't a shiny first round pick like that ****ing hyperactive terrier we gave a 5 year extension to.

The Royals would get 5 years of him and I'm telling you, this guy takes nothing but quality ABs. He'd be a 3-WAR player in a full-time role with ease, IMO. He's played SS his entire minor league/college career and when asked to sub at 2b, he's done so quite well.

Mostly, I just really want to see this kid get a shot somewhere and the Royals could use a long-term 2b in the worst way. He can play there and play well. I'd much rather send you Wong but I don't think anyone's fooled by that clown anymore.

If Moore thinks he can get Moustakas extended, that's definitely the route I'd take. But if they can't come to terms, wouldn't this be worth considering?

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12707087)

I like the idea. Give me Trevor Rosenthal instead of that worthless turd Adams, and I think it's a deal.

Re: Ventura death benefits... I think his family is going to get them regardless, or at least some of them.

Just another reason for guys who didn't sign for much guaranteed money initially to do the club-friendly early extension.


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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12707114)

Gonna need something back if you get Rosenthal.

Rosie isn't a reliever, shouldn't have ever been a reliever and I don't care how many sparkly save stats he racked up. That guy came to the big leagues with a starters frame, a fully formed curveball with plus depth and a nice change to go with a 98 mph fastball that retained its velocity through the 7th. He was a dynamite starting pitcher in the minors.

Mike Matheny, a ****ing mouthbreathing idiot, was scared of actually having to do his job and navigate the 8th and 9th innings so he forced Rosenthal into the closers role.

He'd have done the same damn thing with Martinez had Miller not been traded.

I wouldn't be willing to include Rosenthal in that deal. The Cards can still salvage him. At 26 yrs old with only 300 IP on the odometer, he's a fantastic candidate to get stretched out and turned back into a starter. He can still become the front of the rotation horse that his build, mentality and stuff always said he could be.

And again - **** you in the face, Mike Matheny. Goddamn reerun.

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12707117)

This is all true, but...

Counterpoint: No one wants Fatt Adams.

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 12707097)

I would love for Greg Garcia to be a Royal, some way, somehow. Definitely want to keep Moose but if he must be moved GG would be a good part of a return. I agree with you and it's not just UH blinders. I think Garcia could be a baller if given a real shot

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12706488)

Perhaps not something that could even be rationally considered, but how about Lynn/Garcia/Adams for Moustakas?

Lynn's a workhorse starter coming off injury. Obviously TJ isn't anything to just take for granted, but it's not appreciably more likely than an ACL surgery to linger. Both Lynn and Moustakas are pending FAs and would yield draft pick compensation if they walked (presuming the deal is made now). Lynn may be slightly less likely to hit that $50 million mark but if he has a solid second half, he'll get there, IMO. He's not a big time breaking ball pitcher so he'll find his form sooner than most and since he had his TJ surgery in spring last season, I would expect he'll be at full roar by May at the worst.

Adams has been discussed.

Greg Garcia is a guy that gets ****ed over more often than Butters Stotch. All that guy has done is outplay Kolten Wong at every level and at a harder position (SS). He played alongside Wong at Hawaii but was simply never as 'pedigreed' a player. Last year he finally gets some extended run and puts up a .393 OBP and 1.8 WAR in a whopping 250 plate appearances. The guy can be a good major league starting 2b and he's entering his prime, yet all we ever do in STL is bury his ass because he wasn't a shiny first round pick like that ****ing hyperactive terrier we gave a 5 year extension to.

The Royals would get 5 years of him and I'm telling you, this guy takes nothing but quality ABs. He'd be a 3-WAR player in a full-time role with ease, IMO. He's played SS his entire minor league/college career and when asked to sub at 2b, he's done so quite well.

Mostly, I just really want to see this kid get a shot somewhere and the Royals could use a long-term 2b in the worst way. He can play there and play well. I'd much rather send you Wong but I don't think anyone's fooled by that clown anymore.

If Moore thinks he can get Moustakas extended, that's definitely the route I'd take. But if they can't come to terms, wouldn't this be worth considering?

Originally Posted by fahrenheit (Post 12707153)

I get it, you like him. But like I said... we have virtually the same player on the roster already. Why trade one of your team's catalysts in Moustakas for another guy you already have.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12707165)

This screams more of a July deal instead of Hot Stove time.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12706581)

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So there's a good chance that either the contract isn't paid outright or that the Royals aren't the ones paying it. Probably found money for the Royals.