I'm not white knighting him you prick. See this is they kind of thought that creates mob mentality. Belcher didn't randomly just becomes some insane lunatic. Something drove him and it's important to figure out what that was rather then just label him as a murdering asshole- which is what most of society prefers to do.

Looks like it was Pioli, Crennel and Gibbs outside with Belcher.

you're probably right

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...elf/?pageNum=2

This news link mentions SOC.

What history of violence against women are you ****ing talking about?

I knew Jovan. I knew nothing of this. The punching incident? Seems like that was a history of violence against glass! Not women. Anyone that hasn't punched something because a woman pissed them off probably hasn't dated many women.

I won't speculate as to why this happened with shit like "head trauma" or other such factors. Sometimes arguments, yes regular arguments, escalate into crimes of passion and people die. Happens everyday. I'm not defending Jovie in any way, just saying that Occam's razor probably applies here pretty well. They got into a heated argument and it escalated. People trying to sensationalize this need to find something better to do with their day.

Belcher obviously called Romeo or Pioli after he killed her and was on the way to Arrowhead.

yall think the way our seasons going was a factor in this tragedy?

Not really that far fetched. We don't know anything about the man and his background. Having great work ethic and being determined doesn't necessarily reflect one's psychological development. Where do young men go when they get in big trouble? They go to daddy or that figure in their life hoping they can make everything better. Cops show up and reality sets in and you do your thing. Then again he may have just been saying goodbye. All the speculation is just a big waste of time though. I am sure we will find out more about what led up to this in the not too distant future. I tend to believe like many that this one is most likely a crime of passion by a young man who most likely had a very underdeveloped psychology or was mentally ill on some level.

There are no excuses for murdering someone or suicide. Both are choices.

Thanks they changed it today I see.
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No man is born a murderer. You guys act like it's a ****ing personality trait.

Yep, I do. This season has been a disaster and clearly he lost his mind. Honestly, why is this franchise so cursed?

I don't care if he was born a murderer or made a murderer.

He IS a murderer and that's all that matters.

i doubt that had anything to do with improving his state of mind before he died this morning, but i also don't think it had anything to do with why he shot his girlfriend. this sounds like an ongoing domestic situation that just got way out of hand. the facts are so bizarre to the rest of us because the man behind them had simply lost his mind.

Sorry but this is the biggest horseshit ****ing line of BS I've ever seen.

He's DEAD.

She's DEAD.

There's no reason AT ALL to figure out why he did what he did and try to "understand" it.

Because in the end, he's gone and can't kill anybody else. The ONLY reason to do what you're suggesting is so that we can posthumously paint him as a victim, as this society always wants to do.