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Mark Hamill voicing Han Solo

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Done! Concept of Benicio del Toro's "man in black" character in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheLastJedi?src=hash">#TheLastJedi</a> for <a href="https://twitter.com/MSW_France">@MSW_France</a>! <a href="https://t.co/ti5qY2nio3">pic.twitter.com/ti5qY2nio3</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/850811351639478272">April 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's a concept I did of Kylo Ren in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EpisodeVIII?src=hash">#EpisodeVIII</a>, based on <a href="https://twitter.com/MakingStarWars">@MakingStarWars</a> description! <a href="https://t.co/QMmr83dzZS">https://t.co/QMmr83dzZS</a> <a href="https://t.co/MbiOc6fNNc">pic.twitter.com/MbiOc6fNNc</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/795112313024086016">November 6, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Finished these Episode 8 costume designs for Kylo and Luke, based on <a href="https://twitter.com/MakingStarWars">@MakingStarWars</a>'s description! <a href="https://twitter.com/MSW_France">@MSW_France</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/roguewonpod">@roguewonpod</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/SW_ArtGallery">@SW_ArtGallery</a> <a href="https://t.co/lHWrT3adn3">pic.twitter.com/lHWrT3adn3</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/808873551046578176">December 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's a Puffin-Gremlin-Furby creature concept! Lots of ways it could turn out, so I just had fun. ��Based on <a href="https://twitter.com/MakingStarWars">@MakingStarWars</a>'s description! <a href="https://t.co/7eCqdE9oCd">pic.twitter.com/7eCqdE9oCd</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/812241966469705728">December 23, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My concept of Poe's clothes in Episode VIII! Based on <a href="https://twitter.com/MakingStarWars">@MakingStarWars</a> description. <a href="https://twitter.com/MSW_France">@MSW_France</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/SW_ArtGallery">@SW_ArtGallery</a> <a href="https://t.co/R2yakib7d2">https://t.co/R2yakib7d2</a> <a href="https://t.co/5DWB7dmCLb">pic.twitter.com/5DWB7dmCLb</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/812545776408809472">December 24, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Done! My Rey concept for Episode VIII, based on <a href="https://t.co/xOfJ4cEnCB">https://t.co/xOfJ4cEnCB</a>'s description! <a href="https://twitter.com/MSW_France">@MSW_France</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TheSWLegacy">@TheSWLegacy</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/SW_ArtGallery">@SW_ArtGallery</a> <a href="https://t.co/Wfolf7gljk">pic.twitter.com/Wfolf7gljk</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/814263051557990402">December 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My concepts for one of Luke's costumes in Episode VIII, based on <a href="https://t.co/xOfJ4cEnCB">https://t.co/xOfJ4cEnCB</a>'s description! <a href="https://twitter.com/MSW_France">@MSW_France</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TheSWLegacy">@TheSWLegacy</a> <a href="https://t.co/3BHwK9JgMp">pic.twitter.com/3BHwK9JgMp</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/814611859554889729">December 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My concept for the confrontation on Ahch-To, based on <a href="https://twitter.com/MakingStarWars">@MakingStarWars</a>/<a href="https://twitter.com/MSW_France">@MSW_France</a> description!<br><br>Except Kylo's wearing his helmet, whoops. ☹️ <a href="https://t.co/g4FvfxOmhc">pic.twitter.com/g4FvfxOmhc</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/820518185069899776">January 15, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">rough concept for a stealthy Star Destroyer. �� <a href="https://t.co/fCLCH0wG1P">pic.twitter.com/fCLCH0wG1P</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/823376131109875713">January 23, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's my concept for the TLJ's Executioner Stormtrooper, based on <a href="https://twitter.com/MakingStarWars">@MakingStarWars</a>/<a href="https://twitter.com/MSW_France">@MSW_France</a>'s description! <a href="https://t.co/KPz2MXSN49">https://t.co/KPz2MXSN49</a> <a href="https://t.co/AHLHn1mHCG">pic.twitter.com/AHLHn1mHCG</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/824449337770053632">January 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's my latest Last Jedi concept, based on <a href="https://twitter.com/MakingStarWars">@MakingStarWars</a>/<a href="https://twitter.com/MSW_France">@MSW_France</a>'s article! Wondering if this'll be Kylo's entrance? �� <a href="https://t.co/rhf3Nbk4LE">pic.twitter.com/rhf3Nbk4LE</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/825612027750146048">January 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Might have more work to do on this, but here's a concept I did of The Last Jedi's bomb sequence for <a href="https://twitter.com/MSW_France">@MSW_France</a>! <a href="https://t.co/mBaOyfdcYa">https://t.co/mBaOyfdcYa</a> <a href="https://t.co/MtnH839Jdw">pic.twitter.com/MtnH839Jdw</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/829940618071785472">February 10, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Finished this concept of Finn's bacta suit for <a href="https://twitter.com/MSW_France">@MSW_France</a>, based on <a href="https://twitter.com/MakingStarWars">@MakingStarWars</a> article! <a href="https://t.co/FwtZaMyrIS">https://t.co/FwtZaMyrIS</a> <a href="https://t.co/E1JfyvJFRk">pic.twitter.com/E1JfyvJFRk</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/831454132787617797">February 14, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Finished! My concept of the First Order TIE Bomber for <a href="https://twitter.com/MSW_France">@MSW_France</a>! <a href="https://twitter.com/SW_ArtGallery">@SW_ArtGallery</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/conceptart?src=hash">#conceptart</a><a href="https://t.co/Qxqttcba9T">https://t.co/Qxqttcba9T</a> <a href="https://t.co/E39ekrtpoO">pic.twitter.com/E39ekrtpoO</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/832010255819276288">February 15, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My concept of Kylo Ren's TIE fighter for <a href="https://twitter.com/MSW_France">@MSW_France</a>! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheLastJedi?src=hash">#TheLastJedi</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/conceptart?src=hash">#conceptart</a> <br>Cc. <a href="https://twitter.com/SW_ArtGallery">@SW_ArtGallery</a> <a href="https://t.co/SZCk5kX6cH">pic.twitter.com/SZCk5kX6cH</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/832458812304994304">February 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Finished this concept for <a href="https://twitter.com/MSW_France">@MSW_France</a>, based on the shareholder meeting! <br><br>Cc: <a href="https://twitter.com/SW_ArtGallery">@SW_ArtGallery</a> <a href="https://t.co/CZYJjyB9lX">pic.twitter.com/CZYJjyB9lX</a></p>— John Burns (@realJBurns) <a href="https://twitter.com/realJBurns/status/842205449994801153">March 16, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 12062194)

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awesome.

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 12184340)

Good. Fisher was a waste in TFA beyond pure nostalgia. She should have died instead of/with Ford.

yikes. A bit of unintended foreshadowing here.

Oh, um, this is awesome. And funny. Unfortunately, I'm guessing someone who entered 500,000 times by giving them 50 grand will win.

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12819597)

Mark's aging better than Daisy. She looks pretty bloated, (maybe she's on her period).

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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 12818458)

yikes. A bit of unintended foreshadowing here.

eeek

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 12820671)

Mark's aging better than Daisy. She looks pretty bloated, (maybe she's on her period).

What? She's cute as hell...

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 12820790)

What? She's cute as hell...

He's right, though, but it's just the right side of her face. Looks like it's swollen or something.

:(

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The Celebration Panel is awesome.

Lucas to Warwick: "I hired you when you were 11 years old...and now you have gray hair." LMAO

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That tribute is both difficult and easy to watch at the same time.

Leia was my first love. I never found a second.

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12823320)

http://i.imgur.com/XUaidN7.jpg

Awesome. I'm thrilled Hayden is being so well received and that he's having a great time. He wasn't the issue with Anakin. I doubt even Dicaprio could have saved that god-awful writing and direction.

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12823336)

Awesome. I'm thrilled Hayden is being so well received and that he's having a great time. He wasn't the issue with Anakin. I doubt even Dicaprio could have saved that god-awful writing and direction.

**** that guy and Jar Jar.

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 12823552)

**** that guy and Jar Jar.

From my point of view Lucas was to blame.

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 12820971)

He's right, though, but it's just the right side of her face. Looks like it's swollen or something.

/CP

ROFL

You ****ing slob.

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12823569)

From my point of view Lucas was to blame.

Agreed. 2 of hundreds of poor decisions by Lucas in that era of Star Wars. The biggest mistake was to make the prequels to begin with.

They just released the new trailer from the event in Orlando. Saw it on the Star Wars YouTube channel.

INCREDIBLE

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">'Star Wars: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheLastJedi?src=hash">#TheLastJedi</a>' trailer is a force to be reckoned with <a href="https://t.co/0IbmeNDJQZ">https://t.co/0IbmeNDJQZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/sqW3Y8WK9G">pic.twitter.com/sqW3Y8WK9G</a></p>— Hollywood Reporter (@THR) <a href="https://twitter.com/THR/status/852915331303579649">April 14, 2017</a></blockquote>
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oh my god

luke's depressed

Luke's learned some new shit on this island and he's gonna show us some new badass ways of the force

Hell, they ALL look depressed

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12824105)

Luke's learned some new shit on this island and he's gonna show us some new badass ways of the force

That's what I was thinking.

Being introduced to the Bendu on Rebels last season was no mistake. Luke feels like he needs to be in the middle of the force like the Bendu is, protecting it - balancing it. Rey even said she could see the balance....

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12824105)

Luke's learned some new shit on this island and he's gonna show us some new badass ways of the force

Act 1 - luke mopes around while daisy whines, refuses to do anything for anyone
Act 2 - bad shit happens, daisy pleads with luke to at least train her so she can save her friends
Act 3 - daisy runs off to save her friends, luke shows up at the end to kick everyone's ass

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12824113)

SPOILER THAT SHIT!!1

What was that planet with the busted up B-Wings flying out to take on the Walkers? Why do we always need desert planets in the Skywalker saga (needs more vacation sites like Sarif!)

It looked like Finn was in an escape pod traveling at light speed??

Was the Falcon trying to escape from Ahch-To after the First Order finds Luke's whereabouts, or was the Falcon entering the fight somewhere else?

Poe just can't catch a break with his X-Wings on the ground....

That's just speculation, dumbass.

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12824131)

That's just speculation, dumbass.

https://imgflip.com/readImage?iid=7881016

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12824113)

FYP right. I mean, not likely Luke goes much farther in this movie. For the youngling to succeed and win in the final act (third movie) the mentor typically needs to die.

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12824136)

FYP right. I mean, not likely Luke goes much farther in this movie. For the youngling to succeed and win in the final act (third movie) the mentor typically needs to die.

I thought that as well, but didn't Hamill let it slip he would be in IX (maybe as a Force Ghost, but still)?

Does anybody else feel....underwhelmed a touch by the teaser? Not sure what I expected, and I'm not looking for them to ruin the movie in April, just seems like it didn't knock me to the floor or anything.

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12824141)

less is more

don't want another "darth maul's lightsaber has two blades" shot

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12824151)

less is more

don't want another "darth maul's lightsaber has two blades" shot

Yeah, agreed. I might just be to greedy....

Daisy line from the panel "it's difficult when you meet your heroes, because it might not be what you expect"

I'm actually more interested in the poster than the teaser.

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I'm trying to unpack the size imbalance between Luke and Kylo's faces, but it sure means something that Kylo looks rather sympathetic here. It's even hiding the scar, and his eye and brow are matching Luke's instead of looking angry or snarling. This comes down to how you read expressions, but to me Kylo looks more worried where Luke looks sad but more determined.

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Reys Lightsaber color is changing to Red at the top. Maybe she falls to to the dark side or we finally get a proper introduction of force neutral users in the movies. They've been building those up since rebels and even mentioned them in Rogue One.

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Luke's head being the larger, it may symbolize he is going end up as the next big threat. While Ben is sinking back and lower which may show he's falling back from the dark side which are both supported by the teaser. It will end with Rey will be the final light in the galaxy.

It would be interesting if Luke came to the conclusion that the Jedi were an all powerful tyrannical force during the old republic and the fight between force users ultimately brings more collateral damage than benefits to the galaxy.

I also love the Trekkie vibes in the poster.

Gives me chills. Christmas cannot get here fast enough.

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12824141)

It certainly didn't pack the punch of the trailer for the previous one. Needs more Luke.

Only 300 bucks for a poster guys. LMAO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Last-Jed...QAAOSwdI9Y8P6W

Well, if 30 of us threw in 10 bucks, we could do it. We could keep the poster 10 days at a time, then mail it off to the next person.

:D

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12824301)

Well, if 30 of us threw in 10 bucks, we could do it. We could keep the poster 10 days at a time, then mail it off to the next person.

:D

I would prefer we cut it into 30 equal pieces. I'm not big on timeshares.

Man, that music. It just moves you. Just perfect.

Ok, is that Luke's voice at the end, or Benicio Del Toro's character speaking? I can't tell.

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12824613)

Man, that music. It just moves you. Just perfect.

Ok, is that Luke's voice at the end, or Benicio Del Toro's character speaking? I can't tell.

Me either, and I've really been wondering...

It's obviously Luke.

IT'S OVER REY! I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND!

http://i.imgur.com/iXQ6I3m.png

Well, one thing is for certain - Disney has had themselves one hell of a week with first the Thor teaser and then the Star Wars teaser. They're going to be swimming in money by the end of the year.

clue me in, why is the star wars logo red this time around?

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 12824917)

clue me in, why is the star wars logo red this time around?

Sith

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12824744)

IT'S OVER REY! I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND!

http://i.imgur.com/iXQ6I3m.png

YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER!

God the line is bad enough but that raised eyebrow look he gives... Ok I'm done.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's a <a href="https://twitter.com/starwars">@starwars</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheLastJedi?src=hash">#TheLastJedi</a> animated poster that nobody asked for. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/excited?src=hash">#excited</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZDB2hKzSV8">pic.twitter.com/ZDB2hKzSV8</a></p>— Eric Stafford (@Eric_himself) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eric_himself/status/852934819801473024">April 14, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12824634)

It's obviously Luke.

If you look closely, Luke's lips are moving, so it has to be Luke. I had to watch the trailer 5-6 times on my big tv to notice it.

At the very least, it does NOT look like a "reboot" of Empire. Everyone should be excited about that...I can't wait to see where they are taking this.

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12824874)

Well, one thing is for certain - Disney has had themselves one hell of a week with first the Thor teaser and then the Star Wars teaser. They're going to be swimming in money by the end of the year.

Star Wars
Gaurdians
Thor (a Thor movie people actually want to watch)
+Animated releases
+ Other stuff we can't think of at the moment.

If word of mouth is good on most of these movies they might hit close to 5 bil.

Star Wars could come close to $2b if it doesn't suck out loud.

GOTG will probably get 3/4 a bil.

Thor could get anywhere from 1/2 to 3/4 a bil.

And we haven't even mentioned the animated films or family fluff they'll put out yet...

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 12825398)

At the very least, it does NOT look like a "reboot" of Empire. Everyone should be excited about that...I can't wait to see where they are taking this.

The first original/diverging take on SW's after Lucas.

I would love a story where Luke brings balance to the force by asking her to be balanced (light and dark) in the force.

Not ignoring any aspect and trusting her to take advantage of her full potential...

@GMA
EXCLUSIVE: @StarWars: #TheLastJedi director @rianjohnson says "last Jedi" is SINGULAR in his mind.

Can Ford pull off the mother-daughter combo?

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...df&oe=5955050B

LUCASFILM PRESIDENT KATHLEEN KENNEDY SAYS CARRIE FISHER WILL NOT APPEAR IN STAR WARS: EPISODE IX

http://makingstarwars.net/2017/04/lu...rs-episode-ix/

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In a new clip shared by Good Morning America, President of Lucasfilm, Kathleen Kennedy, clarifies that although Carrie Fisher plays a prominent role in Star Wars: The Last Jedi, she unfortunately will not appear in Episode IX. Kennedy explains that by the time of Fisher’s passing, although the story for Episode IX was far along in their heads, the script had not yet been written. After Fisher’s passing, Kennedy says that they “started over.”

huh, so that shot of Rey on the cliffside is clearly reversed in the trailer....

https://gfycat.com/InsistentFewGoitered

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12825433)

That's exactly what they're doing. They've spent an entire season of Rebels (which is canon) introducing the concept of...something...existing between the dark and the light.

I think what they're going to do is introduce the original teachings of the Whills, allowing them to go into how corrupted the Jedi Order had become over the milennia, like it's a cult, and that cutting themselves off from all emotion (including positive emotion like love and family) was a mistake that fed directly into the rise of the dark side.

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 12825936)

Makes sense.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fans at <a href="https://twitter.com/SW_Celebration">@SW_Celebration</a> do a most impressive recreation of THAT scene from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RogueOne?src=hash">#RogueOne</a>... <a href="https://t.co/HiZpsK9igg">pic.twitter.com/HiZpsK9igg</a></p>— Star Wars UK (@StarWarsUK) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarWarsUK/status/853309173215318016">April 15, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Uh, wow. So Mark Hamill wasn't happy with his role in Episode 8 at first.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BS4Vyj4jFJu/

He's going to test Rey's midichlorians and she's going to fall short of his requirements for training.

I know only one truth...it's time for the Star Wars to end

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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 12826016)

The hell?

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12826019)

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/103tlxy1.gif

ROFL how the hell did I miss that.

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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 12826027)

ROFL how the hell did I miss that.

Ice cream guy is a legend dude....

http://www.starwars-universe.com/ima...nagasminer.gif

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Willrow_Hood

Is he running with an ice cream churn?

Compelling theory.

Luke Skywalker killed Rey’s father.

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Rewind to a Post-Jedi world. Topple one dictator and the whole thing goes right to your head, so it’s easy to imagine Luke becoming just a mite sanctimonious.

But that self-righteous attitude blows up in his face when, at some point, he kills an Imperial. The Imperial himself doesn’t really matter. All that matters is that he has a baby, and that baby is now an orphan.

Rather than leave this child to a life of poverty and sunset-staring, Luke does what any reasonable, guilt-stricken person would do: he adopts this baby as his own, names it Rey, and says, “You will be better than me.” And together with Rey, Luke Skywalker retires from war and starts a brand-new Jedi academy.

As he watches the child grow, he realizes that every Imperial he’s ever killed was a person. People with homes, histories, families. This forces him to question the binary ideals of good and evil as taught by the Jedi. For the first time, Luke Skywalker starts to wonder if he is, in fact, the asshole.

But this soul-searching comes too late, and the rigid code of the Jedi good-and-evil binary bites him in the ass when his nephew, Ben, hits puberty. Rather than dealing with his darker instincts like a mentally healthy person would do, he decides to go all-in and embrace them. Here, we have another Anakin: someone so fed up with the restrictive dogma of the Jedi that he embraces their ideological opposite in the worst possible way.

So Kylo slaughters his Jedi classmates, as one does. But then Kylo happens upon Rey – a child, a friend, his cousin in all but name. And rather than kill her, Kylo holds his nose and does the unthinkable: he compromises. He wipes her mind and drops her off on Jakku.

And so Rey, blind to her abilities, spends ten years screwing around on Jakku as her Jedi powers lie dormant, waiting to be unleashed. By chance, she happens upon a BB-8 unit carrying vital information, and the subsequent events made $2 billion at the box office.

Luke, meanwhile, realizes that adhering to the dogmatic principles of the Jedi has created catastrophe yet again. Worst of all, he was in the perfect position to stop it, and failed. So he retreats, in exile and in shame, to die alone as the last of the Jedi.

Imagine Luke’s surprise when his long-dead-not-daughter shows up and hands him his father’s lightsaber.

Luke has a miracle on hands: one last chance to get it right. So what’s the first lesson for Rey? “It is time for the Jedi to end” – and, by extension, their archaic conception of good and evil.

Luke is one-hundred percent done with this shit, and his design for Rey is imperative: in order to amend the mistakes of the past, he must teach her to look beyond the Jedi code and carve out a new path for future generations. To do that, he has to tell her the truth about her past – he must dash her hopes against the rocks and make her hate him.

The revelation in The Empire Strikes Back turned the Original Trilogy on its head – it flipped the narrative from “Darth Vader must be destroyed” to “Darth Vader must be saved.” It opened doors previously unthinkable, and The Last Jedi might just pull off the same trick.

Here, the revelation is infinitely more complicated – we learn that Luke’s relationship with Rey is not one of love and fatherhood, but of murder and guilt. Rey will have to wrestle with the complexity of that relationship and the complexity within herself if she is to become the first in a new generation of Force-wielders: a generation that is not beholden to the rage of the Sith or the staunchness of the Jedi, but rather to a serenity that arises only from embracing the intricacy of human emotion and acknowledging the fundamental truth that we are all composed of instincts both dark and benevolent.

It is time for the Jedi to end – and something new, led by Rey, to begin.

If by compelling you mean stupid, then I agree completely.