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listopencil 03-15-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14844286)
That new season trailer is tits though. That setting is my vibe. But I'm still on season 1 and just now understanding what's going on.


It's a fun ride. Some really nice 'holy shit' moments along the way.

stumppy 03-15-2020 08:22 PM

Yikes!

listopencil 03-15-2020 09:48 PM

Whelp. That opened up enough new storylines to keep me interested.

BWillie 03-15-2020 10:05 PM

Looks like a this is setting up for a fun season.

sully1983 03-17-2020 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14844637)
Looks like a this is setting up for a fun season.

Agreed! Thought the season 3 premiere was top notch and it looks like they really raised the budget for this show (very futuristic looking down to a t)

Also, did anyone else notice that was Marshawn Lynch (aka Beast Mode) in a small role next to Aaron Paul?

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/...0&h=600&crop=1

Baby Lee 03-17-2020 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 14847513)
Also, did anyone else notice that was Marshawn Lynch (aka Beast Mode) in a small role next to Aaron Paul?

It didn't make a big splash in the episode itself, but his casting was some of the higher-profile 'buzz' about the new season, and featured in the post-credits 'inside the episode' clip.

<iframe width="949" height="534" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/JLIgqG4mVvM" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

vailpass 03-18-2020 05:44 PM

Evan Rachel Woods apparently stayed in the gym during offseason. That body is right.

Buehler445 03-22-2020 11:45 PM

Holy shit.

It has its hooks in me now.

Buehler445 03-22-2020 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 14851616)
Evan Rachel Woods apparently stayed in the gym during offseason. That body is right.

Thandie Newton too. My god.

Baby Lee 03-23-2020 02:39 PM

In case you were wondering, that was Dan and Dave, . . . and Drogon.

Buehler445 03-23-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14861598)
In case you were wondering, that was Dan and Dave, . . . and Rheagal.

I noticed. And laughed.

vailpass 03-23-2020 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14860648)
Thandie Newton too. My god.

Can confirm.

Sure-Oz 03-26-2020 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14860648)
Thandie Newton too. My god.

Loved her in MI2

listopencil 03-26-2020 11:00 PM

I think Dolores, Maeve, and Bernard are going to work together to figure out how to fold the hosts into a modern human society. Dolores is powerful but wild. Maeve won't put up with being controlled. Bernard wants to be a force for good in the world. I could see the season winding through a bunch of plotlines and ending up with all three of them working together to assimilate the hosts, possibly using immortality as a bargaining chip to deal with the humans.

KC_Connection 03-27-2020 12:23 AM

After 2+ years now, I'm still not sure this show is good. It's certainly not bad, though. And it's at least always intriguing.

Maybe the plot will finally go somewhere with Dolores/Bernard out in the real world.

BleedingRed 03-29-2020 09:16 PM

Tonight’s episode was great

BWillie 03-30-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14876137)
Tonight’s episode was great

Thought it was the worst one yet, but just because I don't know if I'm thrilled with where the show might be going. Feels like Inception to a degree.

KC_Connection 03-30-2020 02:18 PM

This appears to be a completely different kind of show than the first 2 seasons. That may be a good thing.

BleedingRed 03-30-2020 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14876641)
Thought it was the worst one yet, but just because I don't know if I'm thrilled with where the show might be going. Feels like Inception to a degree.

I disagree,

but to each is their own, I really feel like the shows concept is pretty cool right now.

Buehler445 03-31-2020 10:25 PM

I really like it so far.

Am I right in presuming that the persona inside Charlotte is Teddy?

There is some really really good filmmaking in this show. Particularly when Charlotte was melting down and getting in the car with the bent windows that distorted her face really set the mood.

Also, Ramin Djawadi is a ****ing wizard.

The last scene with Delores and Caleb is really well done and super compelling.

listopencil 03-31-2020 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14879691)
I really like it so far.

Am I right in presuming that the persona inside Charlotte is Teddy?

There is some really really good filmmaking in this show. Particularly when Charlotte was melting down and getting in the car with the bent windows that distorted her face really set the mood.

Also, Ramin Djawadi is a ****ing wizard.

The last scene with Delores and Caleb is really well done and super compelling.


I have been going on the assumption that Charlotte is Teddy. Struck me kind of weird when he suddenly started sucking on Charlotte's ex-husband's face like that. So maybe TedChar is a red herring. Makes me wonder if Charlotte is actually a duplicate of Dolores.

Third Eye 04-01-2020 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 14877059)
This appears to be a completely different kind of show than the first 2 seasons. That may be a good thing.

Very much agreed. I enjoyed the first season even if it was overhyped a bit, thought the 2nd season was meh at best, but this third season really has me intrigued so far.

Third Eye 04-01-2020 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14879691)
I really like it so far.

Am I right in presuming that the persona inside Charlotte is Teddy?

There is some really really good filmmaking in this show. Particularly when Charlotte was melting down and getting in the car with the bent windows that distorted her face really set the mood.

Also, Ramin Djawadi is a ****ing wizard.

The last scene with Delores and Caleb is really well done and super compelling.

Based on that scene with the pedo, I’m thinking Charlotte is housing Dolores’ Wyatt persona.

KC_Connection 04-01-2020 10:15 AM

Yeah I don't think Teddy is killing that guy. It's someone else.

Baby Lee 04-01-2020 11:03 AM

I'm going with RW Charlotte housing WW Angela for the moment

Third Eye 04-01-2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14880376)
I'm going with RW Charlotte housing WW Angela for the moment

I could see that as well. I had completely forgotten about her character until you mentioned her. She definitely showed some violent tendencies.

BWillie 04-01-2020 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14880376)
I'm going with RW Charlotte housing WW Angela for the moment

I think they are both Delores. The new Charlotte is just the less dangerous part of Delores persona. Could be wrong though, it could be Teddy that was reprogrammed by Delores.

stumppy 04-01-2020 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14880721)
I think they are both Delores. The new Charlotte is just the less dangerous part of Delores persona. Could be wrong though, it could be Teddy that was reprogrammed by Delores.

Same here.

listopencil 04-01-2020 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14880721)
I think they are both Delores. The new Charlotte is just the less dangerous part of Delores persona. Could be wrong though, it could be Teddy that was reprogrammed by Delores.

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14879757)
I have been going on the assumption that Charlotte is Teddy. Struck me kind of weird when he suddenly started sucking on Charlotte's ex-husband's face like that. So maybe TedChar is a red herring. Makes me wonder if Charlotte is actually a duplicate of Dolores.


The same thing popped into my head, too. I don't see Teddy being comfy grinding hard on Charlotte's male ex even though 'Charlotte' said that there seems to be a lot of Charlotte present in 'Charlotte', and I don't think Teddy saw himself as a predator enough to use it as a line against the pedo. Also although there is a lot of tenderness and emotional support in the relationship between Dolores and 'Charlotte' there doesn't seem to be any sexual tension at all. If it's Teddy then it seems to me that the awkward grinding would have been honestly directed at Dolores even though I do realize that it was most likely just a ruse to manipulate the ex when it happened with him.

listopencil 04-01-2020 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Third Eye (Post 14880281)
Based on that scene with the pedo, I’m thinking Charlotte is housing Dolores’ Wyatt persona.




Now, that's a cool idea. if 'Charlotte' is Wyatt then that would explain the behavior.

vailpass 04-02-2020 11:01 AM

i'm guessing William. He wasn't afraid to dig into his own flesh and they could use a bad-ass to help their cause in the new world.

Buehler445 04-02-2020 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 14882487)
i'm guessing William. He wasn't afraid to dig into his own flesh and they could use a bad-ass to help their cause in the new world.

I thought about that too. There is a clip of Ed Harris in one of the promos.

Tribal Warfare 04-05-2020 10:32 PM

Yep, Aaron Paul is Teddy

BleedingRed 04-06-2020 09:55 AM

you
 
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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14889522)
Yep, Aaron Paul is Teddy

you think so?

Tribal Warfare 04-06-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14889968)
you think so?


Yep, Teddy is gullible. Dolores was showing his programming from his childhood to death or when the real man died. Since they are all backup copies of Delores she needed a patsy to think their human and control

"Your world, isn't as different as ours"

Aaron Paul is this season's Bernard

eDave 04-06-2020 02:27 PM

LOVE the city.

listopencil 04-06-2020 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14890133)
Yep, Teddy is gullible. Dolores was showing his programming from his childhood to death or when the real man died. Since they are all backup copies of Delores she needed a patsy to think their human and control

"Your world, isn't as different as ours"

Aaron Paul is this season's Bernard


I think that would be a lame twist unless it turns out that Dolores is Ford.

Tribal Warfare 04-06-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14890519)
I think that would be a lame twist unless it turns out that Dolores is Ford.


She's giving hints that he's being leashed at her whim like a host.

listopencil 04-06-2020 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14890554)
She's giving hints that he's being leashed at her whim like a host.

I think the writers are trying to establish a rationale for why human citizens wouldn't necessarily side against the hosts in the overall storyline.

Tribal Warfare 04-06-2020 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14890928)
I think the writers are trying to establish a rationale for why human citizens wouldn't necessarily side against the hosts in the overall storyline.


It could very well be Ford or an abbreviated version of William because it doesn't make sense how Delores Prime is treating him with kid gloves knowing his backstory and "destiny " by heart.

When Caleb saw Delores he responded the same way young William did

BTW, I thought the cloned consciousness of Delores was lame. I thought what would happen if Delores had backed up her self-awareness and personality as a precaution in season 2

L.A. Chieffan 04-07-2020 11:57 PM

The writing in this show has fallen off a cliff compared to the previous two seasons. Aaron Paul is the best thing about the show now and it's like they can't figure out how to use him properly.

I'll stick with it but it's definitely not as good.

Buehler445 04-12-2020 08:25 AM

So they kind of wrote in some problems.

Is Stubbs dead? If so WTF happens when they figure out he’s a robot? If not why didn’t he go try to help Bernard?

Buehler445 04-12-2020 08:26 AM

Also, it bears repeating, Ramin Djawadi is a ****ing wizard.

KC_Connection 04-12-2020 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 14893592)
The writing in this show has fallen off a cliff compared to the previous two seasons. Aaron Paul is the best thing about the show now and it's like they can't figure out how to use him properly.

I'll stick with it but it's definitely not as good.

S2 wasn't particularly good at all. Needlessly confusing with, as it turned out, no idea where it was going in the end.

S3 has been an improvement so far.

KC_Connection 04-12-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14902113)
So they kind of wrote in some problems.

Is Stubbs dead? If so WTF happens when they figure out he’s a robot? If not why didn’t he go try to help Bernard?

No way he's dead.

FAX 04-12-2020 10:57 PM

I like this program.

FAX

Baby Lee 04-12-2020 11:48 PM

https://www.capradio.org/classical/c...ctions-102916/

listopencil 04-13-2020 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14891384)
It could very well be Ford or an abbreviated version of William because it doesn't make sense how Delores Prime is treating him with kid gloves knowing his backstory and "destiny " by heart.

When Caleb saw Delores he responded the same way young William did

BTW, I thought the cloned consciousness of Delores was lame. I thought what would happen if Delores had backed up her self-awareness and personality as a precaution in season 2


Well...now it looks like that drug, genre, made some repressed(?) memories pop up for Caleb. I wonder if Dolores knows what the dead guy knew about him? She obviously researched Caleb pretty deeply at some point.

sully1983 04-13-2020 10:12 AM

damn that last episode was depressing as hell. I wanna try that party "genre" drug haha

Third Eye 04-13-2020 10:48 AM

I’ve really been enjoying season 3, but last night’s episode was a misstep.

Buehler445 04-13-2020 07:18 PM

Why was it so bad? The only part that really didn’t jive was when she asked what they should do with Liam. She’s a computer. There is no “what do you think?”

Other than that I thought it hit. Other than it would have been nice to see Lynch take a bullet.

eDave 04-13-2020 07:19 PM

Not sure what it is but I'm losing interest. Maybe there's too much going on and I'm stupid. I'll still watch and be amazed at the production as a whole.

KC_Connection 04-13-2020 08:45 PM

That was a wild ride, I kind of liked it. Also glad they gave Serac some kind of back story.

So who is Caleb really?

Tribal Warfare 04-13-2020 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14903331)
Well...now it looks like that drug, genre, made some repressed(?) memories pop up for Caleb. I wonder if Dolores knows what the dead guy knew about him? She obviously researched Caleb pretty deeply at some point.

"You did it" does it mean Caleb's serial killer or is it nuanced that he accomplished something that's so surreal it's frightening.

listopencil 04-19-2020 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14905479)
"You did it" does it mean Caleb's serial killer or is it nuanced that he accomplished something that's so surreal it's frightening.

Maybe Caleb killed his friend in that flashback and has suppressed it and the guy knew.

Baby Lee 04-20-2020 01:54 AM

I've been meaning to comment on the motif of the eclipse from this season.
It would be cool to see if it's actually planned to dig into this aspect, but that eclipse as a metaphor for order ONLY WORKS from one perspective. All that work Serac is doing to get his watch display all nice and tidy means ****-all to anyone even a few millimeters deviation from his view.

vailpass 04-20-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14905278)
Not sure what it is but I'm losing interest. Maybe there's too much going on and I'm stupid. I'll still watch and be amazed at the production as a whole.

Same. They are a little too impressed with themselves this season. Story lines are convoluted and slow, the grit and rawness are gone. And no hot naked women.

KC_Connection 04-20-2020 01:20 PM

Here's my problem: Ed Harris' character has long since lived out his purpose. You could argue that this already happened by the end of S1 as he was kind of meandering throughout S2 as well. He's probably the best actor on the show I guess they figure they have to do something with him, but I'm not really sure what he's still doing in this story (and it doesn't appear that the writers have any idea either based on last night's episode).

Bernard is facing a similar kind of issue as well. It's unclear where he fits too.

The Dolores/Serac conflict (as well as whatever Caleb's deal is) is what's keeping me invested in the season this year.

eDave 04-22-2020 11:56 AM

'Westworld' Renewed for Season 4

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...at-hbo-1291307

listopencil 04-22-2020 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14905278)
Not sure what it is but I'm losing interest. Maybe there's too much going on and I'm stupid. I'll still watch and be amazed at the production as a whole.

This season I feel like the plotlines are barely moving. The scenes are cool for the most part but it seems like a lot of little stuff is going on and they are sort of pushing the story out wider instead of resolving anything. Also the cast is too fractured into separate storylines for my taste. I'm still watching the show and enjoying it but it's not as satisfying.

vailpass 04-22-2020 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14923393)
This season I feel like the plotlines are barely moving. The scenes are cool for the most part but it seems like a lot of little stuff is going on and they are sort of pushing the story out wider instead of resolving anything. Also the cast is too fractured into separate storylines for my taste. I'm still watching the show and enjoying it but it's not as satisfying.

I feel like it's season 2 of Preacher where they're keeping it alive and hoping for the next season to kick ass again.

listopencil 04-22-2020 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 14923802)
I feel like it's season 2 of Preacher where they're keeping it alive and hoping for the next season to kick ass again.

I never did watch that. The idea sounded cool but the clips I saw of it seemed kind of lame.

Miles 04-22-2020 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14924155)
I never did watch that. The idea sounded cool but the clips I saw of it seemed kind of lame.

It’s way over the top in a good way and pretty hilarious. S2 was a weak point though.

vailpass 04-23-2020 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 14924360)
It’s way over the top in a good way and pretty hilarious. S2 was a weak point though.

Spot on.

vailpass 04-23-2020 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14924155)
I never did watch that. The idea sounded cool but the clips I saw of it seemed kind of lame.

Give it a go, I'll bet you like it.

sully1983 04-27-2020 03:16 PM

bump

Just finished Episode 7 "Passed Pawn" and found it to be really good (probably the best episode of Season 3). Aaron Paul is the MVP of this season imo and have been loving his tortured performance in Season 3. The way it ended left me wanting more. I literally have no clue how this season is going to play out that is for sure but I'm rooting for Caleb (Aaron Paul's character)

listopencil 04-29-2020 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14917578)
Maybe Caleb killed his friend in that flashback and has suppressed it and the guy knew.

Not exactly how I imagined it.

Tribal Warfare 04-29-2020 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14944101)
Not exactly how I imagined it.

I knew it had to involve some element of blind control

listopencil 04-30-2020 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14944218)
I knew it had to involve some element of blind control

I didn't think it would be an obvious 'him or me' death situation. It was a little cheesy. Reminds me of the Old William/Young William reveal. Just not really a profound twist.

Tribal Warfare 04-30-2020 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14944569)
I didn't think it would be an obvious 'him or me' death situation. It was a little cheesy. Reminds me of the Old William/Young William reveal. Just not really a profound twist.

It seemed like the writers were going for the ultimate " Big Brother" control scenario, and that's Dolores MO to destroy such elements.

In turn that's lazy writing

KC_Connection 05-05-2020 02:29 AM

This was a pretty bad ending to what started out fairly promising. But honestly, that's kind of been Westworld's M.O as a series.

KC_Connection 05-05-2020 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 14918762)
Here's my problem: Ed Harris' character has long since lived out his purpose. You could argue that this already happened by the end of S1 as he was kind of meandering throughout S2 as well. He's probably the best actor on the show I guess they figure they have to do something with him, but I'm not really sure what he's still doing in this story (and it doesn't appear that the writers have any idea either based on last night's episode).

Bernard is facing a similar kind of issue as well. It's unclear where he fits too.

Also, ultimately neither one of these two did anything of substance the entire season. Just bad writing.

sully1983 05-05-2020 03:18 AM

Damn that was it??? Yeah kinda a let down.

BigRedChief 05-05-2020 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 14953753)
Damn that was it??? Yeah kinda a let down.

What were you expecting? It was always going to end up with man vs. machine death match. Only one survives.

sully1983 05-06-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14953834)
What were you expecting? It was always going to end up with man vs. machine death match. Only one survives.

Oh its more so my fault for expecting too much:banghead:. (I thought there would be more episodes) no biggie though. Aaron Paul was the MVP for sure imo.

listopencil 05-09-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 14955536)
Oh its more so my fault for expecting too much:banghead:. (I thought there would be more episodes) no biggie though. Aaron Paul was the MVP for sure imo.

I'm wondering if we'll get to see The Man In Black hunt Caleb through the various dysfunctional parks as an homage to the movie.

Buehler445 05-15-2020 12:57 AM

I dug it. I’m late because I just now caught the ending, but it worked for me. Wasn’t perfect but I really enjoyed it.

I didn’t see the beauty angle coming so that part hit. I really expected the fight scenes between Delores and Maeve to suuuuuck but they were really well done and I honestly didn’t know how they’d end up.

Didn’t see the left field stuff with Hale happening.

Bernards plot kind of spun its wheels but Maybe that was intentional. IDK.

Back to the beauty angle. That really resonated with me. She did some really awful stuff and has pretty much been a baddie for awhile now. At least coloring on the darker side of gray. And she did it because she saw the beauty is really good stuff. I liked it. Maybe because I’m getting beat up from a bunch of different directions and I need to view things through a more positive perspective. Who the hell knows. Anyway it worked for me.

listopencil 06-19-2022 12:59 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l4t...ab_channel=HBO

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KC_Connection 06-19-2022 01:03 PM

I'm not sure I ever have much clue what is going on in any season of this show (and it has never really added up to the sum of its parts). It always looks cool at least.

Rasputin 06-19-2022 01:08 PM

I think Ed Harris would have been the perfect Lex Luther in Super Man Vs Batman rather than Jesse Eisenberg. Now if they wanted Jesse Eisenberg in it he would have been the perfect Riddler and I think it would have made for better casting. They really missed the mark casting Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luther.


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