No one's blocking is even close.

http://i.imgur.com/7ZjD0DJ.jpg

Do these stats include the Browns game?

Dude didn't even make the practice squad. It's obviously not as bad as the Fisher pick, but it was still pissed away.

Yes.

How many teams cut a 2013 draft pick before the season? I have no idea, just wondering. How many teams cut two?

The posts by "SHOX" itt are hilarious.

Who cares? How many 6th rounders are their in the NFL and how many initially made a roster?

Many will cut a pick or two, but they are almost always signed back to the practice squad unless some time steals them away like we did Cooper. To just flat out cut a player is admitting a **** up, but to their credit at least they admitted it and cut bait.

Man, I forgot about that idiocy. What a ****ing half-wit that guy is.

Hoover probably gets to claim the 'best post' award for this thread, but I'm pretty happy with where I end up as well. Sherman has been an outstanding STs player for us. What I didn't realize was that Andy was going to feature the FB position like he has.

I guess I should have - he was pretty keyed up on getting some of them in here.

Fuggit - I liked the trade then and like it even more now. I'll take it.

He was number 204, dipshit. The second of the Chiefs sixth round picks.

Your posts just prove that you love to bitch.

Oh, and that you don't know dick about the NFL, but that's common knowledge by now.

The Braden Wilson pick was a wtf moment.

The post where I said they ****ed up the pick, but at least were able to admit it?

Before training camp even starts to find out if he sucks?

Good call, Saul.

Look pal, Dane is going to call someone a dumb**** and there's not a god damn thing you can do it about it.

LMAO

It is what it is.

Collin Mooney has a significantly better per snap blocking rating, but otherwise Sherman stands alone.

Nobody bitched about the AJ Jenkins trade when it happened even though AJ Jenkins had yet to log a single catch in his NFL career.

In my opinion, this is way more important.

I'd have to agree. The ability to cut bait on any player that you drafted/signed trumps the ability to hit on 6th round picks. Pioli taught us all that to well.

And honestly, Cooper has a much bigger upside as a 3rd CB than any b/u FB would have...

This was my argument - Arenas was actually a detriment to this team. Just like Kendrick Lewis is now.

Any player who has peaked and is a weak link is worth less than nothing. Trading Arenas, who was never going to be good, in favor of a player who even MIGHT be good, was an improvement.

Without this trade, marcus Cooper probably never sees the field. That's why you get rid of guys who you know don't make you better. You have to continually upgrade the roster. If Cooper had sucked, we would have cut him and done it all over.

Constantly, constantly looking for better players.

I was always a Lewis backer but I'm pretty convinced at this point he's hit his ceiling. He's got pro bowl talent but he'll never be a pro bowl player...

trade turn out great since Cooper showed up


might have been a different story if we had to start Dunta Robinson while Flowers was hurt


Arenas > Dunta

3rd CB? He's already a better starting CB than Arenas could ever dream of becoming.

Cooper's going to push Flowers and Smith for years to come and will probably take over the starting job by 2015.

I believe that Parker is also better than Arenas

Indeed. This place has a weird obsession with CB's though. Arenas sucked and 330 certainly hasn't improved the Dallas defense.

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Has Silent J done anything this season on the Cards...?

All's well that ends well.

For good reason. You can never have too many corner backs. Fullbacks are a luxury. In either event, we ended up in a good spot.

Even if they suck? Arenas was hot garbage. Thankfully we didn't pay Carr 10 mil per.

This might serve as a testament to the superior coaching of Emmit Thomas.

Brandon Carr steadily improved with each season as a Chief, and has clearly declined since signing with the Boys.

On the other hand, the 9ers waived Cooper, who it can be argued, has been the best corner on this team.

If he was this good for the 9ers, there's no way in hell they let him get away.

If 2013 has proven anything, it's that good coaching does matter.

Its possible.

I have a friend who covers the niners. He told me when we claimed Cooper that he was a good player but they elected to keep Nnamdi because of experience and Tremaine Brock was a stud.

Nailed it!

I think the 9ers recognized Cooper's potential, since it was pretty clear he was headed fot their practice squad before he was claimed.

ET untapped that potential about as fast as possible.

Reaction Planet.

I was not happy with this trade.

I should go look and see if I said anything about it..

Boy im glad I was wrong, though, I ate my crow several years ago~

worth, he chugged a straight td from jesus mahomes

Once again - nailed it

Scanned the first few pages and couldn’t find any dumb takes by me. This thread may proceed.

Well, would you look at that. The same reeruns who bitch about everything, bitched about this too. Of course, they were wrong as usual.

Who?

Are we gloating because a FB caught like his first TD pass from QB Jesus? I would say one nice play doesn't really offset a talented ST/Returner, but whatever.

Sherman is the best FB in the league Arenas sucks dick for money. Per usual Chiefs won.

Jesus Christ you're stupid.

Oh, whew....I didn't have anything to say about this trade.

LMAO


Well, when you put it that way...


Is he the greatest blocker evah? Does he create 2 lane roads for Hunt?


Or is this just some kind of Midwest sausage-thing? Enlighten me, Billay.

Ignored.

5 year bump. Someone has way too much time on their hands. That said, I like it.:)

This was an interesting thread.

I'd say we went glass-half-full-back on that deal. In fact, our fullback runneth over.

FAX

ROFL at some of y'all dying on the hill for Javier Arenas. Wow

Oh yeah. ****ing nailed it. :facepalm:

Javier Arenas was gawdawful in hindsight, obviously. Compare what Sherman has brought against what Javier brought, and there is no comparison.

I think Arenas was part of Pioli's draft where he only brought in college team captains, right? His version of Vermeil's "profile guys" moment? Yeah, don't ever do that.

Hey, don't feel bad. At least you didn't go full Hamas :D

Bootlegged won this thread, I believe

This thread has been fun. I wonder what the "We traded for Matt Cassel" thread looks like and the Scott Pioli thread.

Fixed

if this thread hits 2000 posts the Chiefs will sign Javier Arenas!!!

The short of it? Me owning the entire ****ing universe from day one while the guy below this post looks like a ****ing clown for pages and months.



That's what.

And now look at us. We barely use the fullback anymore and our secondary is in disarray. :)

Lol. Just from the front page. Thanks for bumping this thread. It certainly delivered.

Go back and look at the circumstances of the trade before you start calling people a bunch of ****ing idiots.

1. We traded Tony Gonzales for a 2nd round pick.
2. We then used that 2nd round pick on Javier Arenas.
3. We traded Arenas for a FB.....when WE ALREADY HAD ****ING FOUR FULLBACKS ON THE ROSTER.

Gee....I wonder why people were pissed and wondering what Dorsey was doing.

I don't think that anyone is calling people idiot. I think that we all can agree that using the Tony G pick on Arenas was a horrible pick. We all hated that pick from the second it was made. Arenas lasted what? 1-2 years in the league after that trade? But it was a pick made by Pioli. Pioli was gone and Reid/Dorsey were having to totally rebuild the roster. They knew that Arenas was trash, so they got what they could for him. A fullback was a very unpopular trade around here with good reason. You can pick up a good fullback in rounds 6, 7, it even undrafted. So we were all unhappy about that. But fact is that the 2nd round pick was gone. Arenas was trash, and we were not getting anywhere near that value back out of him. Obviously, the 4 fullbacks on the roster didn't fit what Reid wanted. Turns out, it was a good trade. Sherman has been one our best guys on special teams, arguably the best fullback in the NFL, and he's still in the league and on the Chiefs long after Tony G and Javier Arenas have retired. I guess that maybe Reid and Dorsey might know what they're doing more than a bunch of guys on an internet forum. Imagine that.

Anthony sherman one of our best pickup.

Exactly. My only fault in not liking this trade was thinking that Javier Arenas could be an okay dimeback considering how he performed as a starter for half of 2012 and also considering our insane lack of CB depth that was currently on the team.

And even if you say, "Arenas was always garbage, what's one fewer piece of garbage in a big pile of garbage?" then that doesn't explain why Dorsey and Reid went all out in free agency trying to get the team to win immediately. We want to win now, but we're taking a dude from a very weak position (whether he's JAG or not) and trading him for a guy who plays an antiquated offensive position of which we've already spent 2 6th rounders in the past two drafts and two other guys who could also do the job. By the way, one of those 6th rounders was just used by the man who made the trade like A ****ING WEEK before the trade.

Hell, and you should also consider that one of the guys who was already on the roster, Patrick DiMarco, has made the Pro Bowl as a FB a few times since then.

I'm not saying I'm not wrong. I'm definitely wrong on the trade. But at the time, yes, the trade was pretty ****ing wasteful.

Fact is, those "guys who get paid to do this", get way more ****ing wrong than they do right. So until they start hitting 51% on a regular basis across the league, every armchair GM in the house can keep trucking right the **** on and over the condescending bodies of their snot-nosed, "professional"-defending counterpart fans.

Who digs these threads up? Very relevant and cool to read, vaguely remember it the first time around. But jeez, some of y'all have too much time to dig

Please remember that we traded for Sherman after we drafted a FB in the 6th.

Sherman has panned out and we won the trade but what the hell?

Javier Arenas was trash and Sherman had the ability to be a plus ST player. This was am easily defensible trade at the time it was made. Now I can understand an argument against it as well, but the justification was clear at the outset.

And man, that Shox guy was a goddamn reerun. A few others acquitted themselves poorly as well...

Did Dorsey just discover who Anthony Sherman was in the week after the draft or something?

"It's only a 6th round pick" is like saying "It's only a $20 bill." Why the hell would you flush it down the toilet like that?

I'm talking about spending the pick on Braden Wilson in the first place, not trading for Anthony Sherman to basically oust Braden Wilson.

C'mon now, who doesn't love sausage?

So...does anyone think Arenas has any tread left to kick the tires, bring in for a look, show ropes, et al?

A 6th round pick is more like a dime stuck to some old chewing gum. I mean if I really need the dime I'd grab it but it wouldn't take a lot to convince me that I don't need it that badly afterall...

6th round picks are glorified UDFAs.