Worst possible thing ever would be for us to pass on Geno, take Luke ****ing Joeckel and then watch the Raiders take Geno at #3...

Enduring a painful 2-14 season and finally getting the #1 pick and then passing on Geno and then seeing him go to our hated rival would be just gut wrenching.

I would hate life.

God, can we just fast forward to April? This is going to be the longest 3 months we'll ever endure.

Know where I can get a deal on an AK-47.

I want to proactively prepare for my reaction should that happen.

I've been making this prediction for months: we pass on Smith, draft Joeckel (despite all logic), the Raiders draft Smith, and they own the division for a decade with their new franchise quarterback while we continue to be what we've been for 40 years.

It's a cover.

He can say the same stupid shit he's been saying all along and then whip out the über-passive aggressive card - "I don't care what the Chiefs do, I'm a Jags fan."

I mean ask yourself this: we have another Jags fan on this board who doesn't go on and on about what the Chiefs should do. If he's really a Jags fan, why is he so passionate about what the CHIEFS do?

Obviously a mult. There's at least 4 or 5 of them on this thread that are the same guy.

I still have no idea why you are being such a douchenozzle. As I stated below;

Your shit got tangled somewhere back because I have never at any point argued against Geno.

Right. And Obama wants to take your guns and 9/11 was planned by the CIA. And the other "jags fan" is actually just some crazy delusional Tyler Bray fan who thinks the Jaguars might take him but now hopes the Chiefs will.

I'll need a tank:thumb:

Too impersonal.

You might want to start varying your avatars, your handles and your posting style.

Is it supposed to be something else?

When I read it, it looks like shorthand for B14 cock man (in a Jamaican accent).

What other Jags fan do I post like? Or has a similar avatar? You are just making shit up now.


Try harder.

its going to be hilarious to see everyone who has loved him instantly flip on him and hate him/bash him cause he was picked by a team they hate lol

Eh... he backed it up with his conversations with Setsuna about how Setsuna got kicked out of the Jags message board. If that's part of his cover then the guy is really going all out.

Like I said in the Wilson thread. I am splitting my time between this forum and the forums of the other teams ahead of the Jaguars in the draft. I did the same thing with Minnesota and Cleveland boards last year to gauge what their fans thought they would do.

This is by far the biggest psychosis cocktail of a forum I have seen yet though. All I did was tell a guy it is stupid to have wanted every other QB coming out to fail just because he liked Geno. Apparently that triggered the Geno Defense Squad alarm.

I never said anything about other Jags fans.

We have a couple of posters who have a history of entertaining themselves and/or sidestepping bans by creating multiple accounts, and you're doing an amazing job of emulating them.

Then use the report function and let a mod figure it out. The whining cries of "mult" make this seem like some forum 4chan took over like that bodybuilding one.

Which would be interesting because both Dorsey and McKenzie come from the same Packer tree. For us to not draft Geno if he's good enough to go at three would mean that there would have to be a HUGE gap between the 1 and 2 players and Geno (because frankly, if Geno is good enough to go at 3, how can JVille pass on him at 2?)

I would have to care much, much more than I do for that.

Oh, I agree completely with your logic.

I think 14 years here has conditioned me to expect the worst possible outcome....

I don't think any of the mocks picking Joeckel at one have anything to do with him being that much better than Smith, I think it's just prognoticators who are still in the "a qb bust kills a franchise for a decade, take a tackle it's less risky" mindset of a few years ago. I think Smith should be at the top of our board, I don't think there's any reason he shouldn't be looking at the rest of the class (as a whole, not just at QB), but I just have a hard time convincing myself we won't do the same crap that we always do.

Stockholm Syndrome is inadvertent. Victims aren't brainwashed into loving their captors.

****ing moron.

At the end of the day, he's a Jags fan. So who the **** cares about him? People on this forum have a bad habit of having arguments with trolls and people whose opinions shouldn't matter.

Oh, agree totally. In fact, I expect us to lose Albert, pass on Joekel, and watch us draft a DT.

I won't believe otherwise until I see the ineptitude end.

If Clark Hunt wants to make real change, he needs to pull an Arthur Blank and tell them to draft a QB...

Of course you didn't.

You never actually came right out and said it.

Same passive-aggressive BS that people like BlackBob use.

NONE.

That's the point.

ROFL

How about you just **** off?

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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

What a steal he would be at 3! I wish we were drafting there so we could take him. :(

If only it wasn't such a reach at 1.

One has to think about why they would leak something like that...

QB is much too high at #1. Trade with Oakland then pick a QB at #3.

They wouldn't.

The Jags would, though.

Aids, get it.

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

This is how pathetic I've become with this...I just spent $30 to make this shirt.

Lol ;)

Well that'll be a cool shirt for 3 months.

ROFLWorked out fine for the 1998 Colts.

I got the G. Smith 12 put on the back, I'll be sure to burn it once he goes to the raiders at 3....:mad:

Wow you got ripped off.

:clap:

I wanted a nicer shirt than the one I made myself for the Blackout

No shit sherlock. I never said you were born with his nuts in your mouth. He probably had his boys snatch you up from Cassel's Hacienda.

Are you reeruned? I asked if you knew what Stockholm Syndrome was. You said:

I pointed out how that's a terrible example, and then you started eating your own diarrhea and throwing it up on the computer screen.

Negged

B14ckmon, I've really liked some of your posts. Please don't go crazy here.

Do not ****ing mess with me B14ckmon. I'm a member of all the ****ing MOBs on this forum.

Listen to this man when he speaks, lest he **** ye shite up righteously.

Maybe Q, but I've been busy the last couple of days:

The Geno and RG3 comparison's are horrible and really need to stop. It's not helping the Geno case because of how crazy they are.

Lol. Just stop.

Try this link instead.

http://www.610sports.com/pages/10086021.php?

Nobody's making those comparisons. Geno isn't a ****ing moron who's going to get himself killed.

I'm ready to start taking all bets on the draft. Geno WILL go number 1 to the Chiefs. All bets welcome

Well, since it was Weinke who made the comparison and he's the guy who worked with Griffin last year and who is working with Geno now...

Too much is being made of this comparison.

Is Geno capable of extending plays with his legs?

Has he shown an ability to make reads?

Does he have the arm to make all the throws?

Yea, he's doing his job. He is supposed to pump up the players he is working with.

Wilson is good at extending plays in the NFL because if the pocket collapses he is off to the races. Geno will not be doing that in the NFL because NFL ends are much better. I see Geno being more like Aaron Rodgers than Griffin in that regard.

I think the Rodgers comparison athletically is a good one, and ftr, one a lot of people on this site have made.

If the Chiefs take Geno, I will wear Terrance Copper stuff in my avatar until he's no longer on the team

Everybody should listen to this Chris Weinke interview :thumb:

Thanks, Sac!

And nearly everyone around here, including me, has said as much.

I think he compares very favorably to Rogers at the same stage, with Geno having better accuracy and pocket presence. Rogers was a bit more of a gun slinger, but their games, size, athletic ability, arm, etc. are all very similar.

I believe what Weinke was stating was that Geno has that ability to extend a play with his athleticism while still being able to read the defense and take the ball downfield as Griffin did.

However, like Rogers, Geno is a pocket passer that is looking to get the ball downfield with his arm and using his legs only as a last resort when the pocket collapses. If you've watched Rogers at Green Bay at all over the past couple of years and have also watched Geno at WVU, the similarities in their games are amazingly close.

Bold LMAO

My pants are messy now, thanks Sac

If we don't pick Geno.......F the new regime.....period.

Agree on all points. And I think if you are looking for a franchise QB, you are better off with a Aaron Rodgers type player over a high risk player like Wilson. Running QBs are great at confusing the defense, but if you can read defenses well, you don't need to confuse them.

I hate to see what will happen to Johnny Manziel. That kid if going to get Suh'd into oblivion.

I think one of the cool things about RG3/Wilson/Kapernick is that they have shown an ability to throw the ball. Especially with RG3, he just needs to wake up and also have his coach not build in so many runs for him. These types of QBs are changing in the respect that they are QB's that are athletic instead of past QB's that were more athletes playing QB. I do agree however, that having a QB with Rodgers style is probably the ideal blend, especially from an anxiety perspective.

I wish manziel would never be talked about again. **** that douche
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The last guy to do it effectively was Fran Tarkenton. Manziel looks just like Frantic Fran on the field. It's a hoot to watch, but defenses are just so fast at the next level. Go ask Griffin and Vick for confirmation on that. Though, Fran Jr. has some crazy instincts.

If you want to see a guy who I think is even better than Manziel in the same type of role, go look at Utah State's Chuckie Keeton. He put up numbers that were almost identical to Manziel (with Manziel getting more on the ground) and his Aggie team went 11-2 - and that's after losing two legit studs in Robert Turbin and Bobby Wagner (both of whom had very good rookie seasons for Seattle in 2012). Keeton is the real deal.

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However, I still am firmly believing that Geno's game/style/fee/size/everything is perfectly suited for the NFL game.

I think people making the RG3 comparison are only doing so in terms of what he (Geno) does in the pocket and how he throws the football. Nobody is saying he can run like Griffin. And, frankly, RG3 won't be running like that, either, as he grows at the NFL level.

Griffin's polish as a passer coming out was woefully underappreciated by the general public, and his ability to pass has been similarly overshadowed by his running at the pro level. He is *not* a 'running quarterback'. He's not just a great athlete behind center. He's a very good passer and he's a very good decision maker. And that's how Geno is similar.

The comparison of Geno to Rodgers is an apt one, but I would also compare Griffin to Rodgers as well. That's the kind of quarterback he'll be down the road. He's not going to be Michael Vick, he's a pocket passer who happens to have the ability to run.

This is why I really like Tajh Boyd. The kid put up 500 yard and 10 rushing TDs, but also threw 36/13 at 67%. He was just insane against LSU.

Yea I have been watching him since he came out of highschool. He is still a bit raw and I haven't seen him do much against a good defense yet.

This. And the only reason he could was because the guys chasing him all smoked and ate gravy all day. Todays hyperbaric chamber sleeping, 100% nutrition planning, perfect weight regimen, groomed from birth players aint playin that shit no more~

Bump

Seems Mort said he thinks we are taking a QB. Hopefully the tides starts to turn. This is usually the time it starts to happen.

Its obvious to me that its either Joeckel or Geno at this point...only options...

No other QB is even worth discussing at #1...

i love this shit


we've never been in a position to even have rumors like this..

if we lock into Smith a couple weeks before the draft, it will be like one long mardi gras until the draft...article after article about the Chiefs and a QB

And boy oh boy will the true fan tears flow.

"If he's a bust it's the worst pick ever!"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBuonxKCcAECMKT.jpg:large


Looks like he's been working pretty hard.

I will swing the largest vorpal blade in ****ing history...

no one is going to harsh that buzz...I double dog dare you...i will hunt them down

It's got to be this guy. It just does
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