I thought it was a good show but I was really hoping the Rock would come back just one more time

I don't think the Rock is ever coming back.

I know and it kind of pisses me off. If it wasn't for the WWF and wrestling no one would know who Dwayne Johnson is.

Can't really say I blame the guy, he's shooting movies he can't just leave on a whim....

He makes more money to do less, and if the WWE hadn't pushed him to do movies it wouldn't have happened. It's partially their fault...

I don't either except that I think he could show up for events like this. It is a one time event and he was really the only superstar besides Cena not to be there.

Well, Cena, dead folks, and the world's biggest Bret Hart mark.

Oh yeah I forgot about Bret Hart. Thanks.

I could name tons of guys who weren't there....

If they had been doing the show in Miami or LA the Rock may have done it.

At least Anvil was there.






















I guess.

Major superstars like who? I am not talking about jobbers.

Let's see......

Randy Savage, Goldberg, Lesnar........the WWE doesn't want those guys there...anyone who works for TNA.

Was Savage ever on Raw? Hell I don't know. I don't think Goldberg wants anything to do with the WWE and I don't know about Lesnar.

Of course the TNA guys don't count

Dave Meltzer says Rock turned down the invite because he's not currently making any public appearances before he starts work on his next movie.

Hey, Rock: nlm

He also said they tried everything possible to get Bret Hart there, but he had conflicts with his the publicity tour for his book. The ending they wanted was for Bret to be the final guy to beat up Vince.

And re: the earlier talk of Wrestlemania, Cena's opponent was supposed to be Batista.

The various boards are blowing up over Punk "drinking a beer" when it HAD to have been a Pepsi, right? Screenshots are in high demand right now.

The WWE didn't even contact Goldberg or Lesnar....

Savage was on Raw...Raw started in 92 he wasn't gone till like 95 or 96....the WWE seems to have a serious issue with ever doing anything that involves him.

wow, Sunny looks old...I'd still hit it though

That bit with Edge and Christian with Christian on the party horn and Edge rappin "You think you know me, You think you know me." LMAO Classic.

Savage was a commentator on Raw for a while, wasn't he?

He seems Ultimate Warrior type weird. The rap album, there's other examples, but I'm too stoned to think of them currently. Vince has always stayed away from those guys. You don't see X-Pac, Chyna, none of the nutbags. Randy would hurt their image at this stage, plus I'd bet he'd be difficult to work with now as much as then.

I personally don't think they touch him cause he and Hogan hate each other and they work with Hogan for the most part...

Chyna's a drug head.........they actually offered Xpac a contract to come back and 1 point, he could if he wanted. He said he doesn't think he can do that schedule anymore.

I had no idea Waltman had been invited back. I figured we'd see him when they brought back Degen X. I figured Road Dogg would be back too. Didn't he get fired for smoking pot? That was what I heard. I'm pretty sure he's in TNA now? I haven't watched for a while, just kind of getting back into it since Y2J came back. It's just not as good as it used to be. As far as Randy goes, he was a star in his own right, but he could never touch Hulk, you can't blame Vince for making that pick if it's what it came down too.

Road Dogg and Billy Gunn are in TNA...they weren't and likely will never be invited back because of comments they made in a shoot after leaving.

Saying things like "HHH is a no good mother****er" "If I ever saw him again I'd kick his ****in ass" "I'd like to splatter his big nose across his face"

They basically ruined any chance of ever coming back, it was discussed then they found out about that and the idea was dropped.

I'm just gonna post this here because I've seen it a few times now, and every single time I lose my shit because it's so absurd.

GOD DAMNIT TNA

I HATE YOU I HATE YOU

Notorious 187 needs to go back to ROH.

Homicide, Christopher Daniels, and Low-Ki were THE three guys who would have made perfect sense coming out after Joe's great promo.

So of course, they go a completely different, completely reeruned direction instead.

None of those guys are going back to ROH unless they have no choice, they make more money in TNA.

Ok.


List who you would like to see in the main events of WM XXIV and why. Try and keep it realistic--active stars and face/heel alignments taken into perspective.

is Lesnar considered active? heel Lesnar vs Y2J

Lesnar is never coming back...

Brock Lesnar is with UFC now. His first fight is in February.

Undertaker vs. Edge for the strap. I think mecca knows the inside dope on the WM main events.

Dope being the operative word.

Main Main Event: CM Punk vs. Elijah Burke vs. John Morrison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Main Event #2: Taker-Edge, streaks and WHC on the line because the whole "Taker winning and then laying the belt in the ring" thing would be amazing

Main Event #3: WWE title match, Heel Jericho vs. Heel HBK vs. Youmanga with Mike Tyson and Dennis Rodman as special guest referees

Har har.......

That would be great. Taker just leaving the belt in the ring would be the best retirement in history.

My unrealistic desires:

Punk v Burke 2/3 Falls

Jericho v MVP

Morrison v Jeff Hardy Ladder Match

Taker vs Edge is the plan for the Smackdown mainevent....

Of all the stars from the past who made cameo appearances on Monday night's 15th Eaw Anniversary show, Tammy 'Sunny' Sytch looks to have the best chance of landing a job in World Wrestling Entertainment (besides the likes of Trish Stratus and Rob Van Dam obviously)

Backstage at the show, Johnny Ace asked Sytch for her contact information. They talked with her about doing some segments with WWE 24/7. However it is not known at this time if they'd like her back as a member of the roster.

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Maybe this is assumed, but it's gotta have Taker vanshing, IMO. Like he wins the belt, does that thing where he drops to one knee and holds it up, then the lights go out. And when they come back up, Taker's gone and the belt is laying there.

And I know it doesn't really count, but I can't imagine anything ever beating Macho Man's retirement at WM7 where he reunited with Elizabeth. This would be close, though.

Usually when a wrestler retires, they have their ass handed to them in their last match. I was at Wrestlemania when Rock demolished Stone Cold. Why would Undertaker be any different? I know he's different, the question is, why would they change this for him? Everything I've ever read, is it's better for the wrestler, and the business for him to get beat down like a donkey in his last match.

**** this Taker talk. FUNAKI IS BACK!

I honestly think that's bullshit, because it totally devalues the belt. The next guy to win it will be seen as a paper champion because he didn't go over UT.

Of course, I can't really stand the Undertaker because he's put over fewer people than Hogan, and fancies himself as some kind of lockerroom Rommel, but that's probably another argument for another time.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

DAMN YOU FRAN FRASCHILLA IT'S NOT FAKE BLOOD IT'S REAL BLOOD DO YOUR DAMN RESEARCH

Sorry dude, but perception is all you have in pro wrestling. It's hard to get anyone over as champ if the fans don't buy him as a legit threat, and how would he do that if he didn't win the title?

A tournament.

King of the Ring 2k8, baby!

Ah, WWE. Taking a page from TNA. That's smart.

Elaborate since I'm not watching it...I don't pay for wrestling.

From what I gather, they did something like the HBK "chin music to the timekeeper" spot in having Jericho go after Orton but hit JBL. This apparently pissed off JBL, so JBL kicked Jericho in the head while he had the Walls on and Orton ready to tap.

I tried to say, "Hey, there's no conspiracy to bury Jericho," but having him put on a great match with Orton for the title only for an announcer to interfere to SET UP A FEUD WITH SAID ANNOUNCER, well... what the hell else could that be? Who gave that stupid shit the green light?

From "I'm here to save us!" to an angle featuring a guy from another ****ing show in the span of a month.

Not to mention that JBL's incredibly entertaining on the mic, but he looked like shit two weeks ago for the APA reunion. And now Tazz is calling the main event with Cole. ****.

Oh I knew that Jericho/JBL thing was coming.....JBL attacked Jericho at the tribute to the troops show which hasn't aired yet.

I knew that, too, but it was still a completely reeruned way to handle it.

Perfect "everybody loses" booking.

They're more worried about getting HHH into the Mania mainevent since he missed last years.

Yeah that is pretty stupid. They pretty much ruined Jericho's save us campaign after 1 match. How can they be this stupid.

Oh well at least Hardy won so I guess he will win at the next PPV.

Because Jericho has and has always had people in the office that don't think he's anything more than a nice upper card player and not a maineventer.....

One of them has 3 H's in his name...H is purposely going out of his way to put Hardy over because he thinks Jeff Hardy is more deserving of that spot than Jericho is.......

HAHAHAHA, Edge just rang the bell while Taker had Batista in the triangle choke.

Then why have this whole save us campaign? It makes no sense.

Three Edges. Holy ****ing shit, this is the greatest.

The Raw planned mainevent is HHH vs Batista for Mania so expect something to happen to get it to that..

Which this big return was a perfect opportunity to disprove.

Instead:

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9...onster1ai4.jpg

Like it or not, Jericho hasn't been over, his return speech the obvious exception. I didn't think he was going to win today, and it played out the way pretty much everyone expected. He's back in the midcard now, hopefully with a slower build rather than a burial. And he did have a virtual pin (or tapout) tonight, rather than straight up losing to Orton, so he's shown to the unwashed masses that he's capable of beating the champion, so he's still theoretically in the title picture.

He and JBL could be entertaining, too. At least on the mic.

I'm wondering if they won't take Jericho heel eventually.

You were already wrong about Armageddon. Hardy went over HHH, albeit in as unimpressive of fashion as possible. (You can't truly say HHH gave him *any* rub in that match...he even acted like it was a joke afterwards).

Again, I told you that you can't trust those dirt sheets all the time.

It may be HHH vs. Batista, but as of now, it sure as shit looks like HHH v. Orton.

Hardy gets a token shot at the rumble, loses, HHH wins the rumble, and beats Orton at WM 24

No way Hardy goes over Orton at RR. That would lead to too many title switches prior to WM.

Actually, Orton chucked Jericho into JBL, and then as he was going after Orton, he shoved JBL out of the way. As soon as you saw the look on JBL's face, you knew it was going to happen.

I'm just pissed because sans run-ins or DQs, that was going to be a ****+ match. I know a lot of people don't like Orton, but he can really bring it as a heel. He did some great psychology last night, and the look and shimmy he did after he RKO'd Jericho is definitely Ultra Peanut .gif quality material.

The word of the day is: Temerity.

Ah, the JBL angle was a ploy to get Y2J on Smackdown.

Or maybe not.

JBL is treated as if he was Steve Austin by this company...

Kyle Orton isn't doing too bad....

Oh wait.... a different Orton eh?

Never mind.

has the

belt EVER changed hands at the Rumble?

Cena over Edge in '06.

Okay, screw it. The JerichoBL feud is going to be great.

And holy shit, Punk vs. MVP!

Also, "An Italian, and a Colombian! And you love to, how you say, swap spit with men who don't want to be cool!"

Temerity.

( i am so am excited :-) )

oh wow like me too :-D

KICKING OFF THE NEW YEAR GAUNTLET STYLE:

I was going to post that, but then I decided not to inflict anyone else with brain damage.

I hate TNA.

Shelton squashed one of the Olsen Twins from CHIKARA. Wow.

He got the tunnel. ECW is straight-up BALLLLLLLINNNNN'!

Both of these guys are better than you.

That opening match between Miz and Morrison and Wang and Moore was a damn good TV match.

UP, what did you think of the HHH-Hardy match? I saw one guy give it ****; Quite frankly, I thought that match was horrendous.

Almost saw some C.M. Penis.