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TambaBerry 06-22-2013 08:23 PM

St Louis is looking for a FS Let me know if interested in starting talks.

rtmike 06-22-2013 09:19 PM

Ronde Barber?

TambaBerry 06-22-2013 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtmike (Post 9769728)
Ronde Barber?

pm sent

trndobrd 06-23-2013 08:56 PM

The Round Rock Tamba Tornadoes are pleased to welcome Center Brian De La Puente, Middle Linebacker Chase Blackburn, SS Mike Adams, and RT Breno Giocomini to the Tornado family. The Tamba Tornadoes look forward to their positive contributions in the upcoming season.

The Tornadoes also signed QB Ryan Lindley in hopes that he may one day learn to throw an accurate pass.

Several bums that had managed to get on the team payroll were escorted off the team property immediately at the end of last season, so there were no cuts necessary.

Rain Man 06-24-2013 12:35 AM

Seattle signs DE Ricardo Mathews and DT Rocky Bernard, and drops OLB Arthur Moats and WR Chaz Schilens.

Rain Man 06-24-2013 09:52 AM

We're getting close to the end of free agency. At some point if it doesn't stop naturally we'll stop accepting bids on new players and play out the string.

The next step will be developing your depth charts and game plans, and seeing what your exact injury situation is. That part is not up and running yet, but will be soon.

MagicHef 06-24-2013 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9766874)
Fort Collins Horseteeth:

QB- Tom Brady, Brady Quinn
HB- Willis McGahee, Joique Bell, Montell Owens, Peyton Hillis
FB- Darrel Young
WR- Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, Brandon Lloyd, Denarius Moore, Doug Baldwin, Dwayne Harris
TE- Dwayne Allen, Matthew Mulligan, Garrett Graham, Virgil Green
LT- Jordan Gross, Tyron Smith
LG- Donald Thomas, Ben Jones
C- Matt Birk
RG- Zane Beadles, Vladimir Ducasse
RT- Austin Howard, Jason Smith

DT- Desmond Bryant, Mike Martin, Brandon Mebane, Broderick Bunkley, Kevin Vickerson, Greg Scruggs
DE- John Abraham, Jason Hatcher, Elvis Dumervil, Osi Umenyiora, Junior Galette, Juqua Parker
SLB- Philip Wheeler, D.J. Williams
MLB- Brad Jones, DeMeco Ryans
WLB- Wesley Woodyard, Danny Trevathan
CB- Casey Hayward, Chris Harris, jr, Champ Bailey, Tony Carter, Bradley Fletcher
S- Earl Thomas, Rahim Moore, Jamarca Sanford

Updated. That secondary is ridiculous.

Super Bowl or bust.

TambaBerry 06-24-2013 01:43 PM

Pretty salty cornerbacks you have there

cdcox 06-24-2013 02:06 PM

Now that it appears that I am done in FA, here was my strategy in bidding 300 clams for Bowener. I looked at the total money available to all the teams in FA and the current bids on all players at that time. Even assuming that only 70% would be spent, the market was still under financed by a factor of 3. In other words there was a lot of cash out there chasing limited talent. I also projected that prices on players would go way up once people started realizing that the talent pool was shrinking. That situation is now manifest in league 1 where my $72 won't buy a 2nd tier starting guard.

I was also facing a situation where I really wanted one of the top 3 CBs, and there were more than 3 teams chasing those three players. Patty had just out bid me on Chris Harris Jr. and I could see a situation where those corners would slowly be bid up in value until I could no longer afford one of them. Therefore I vowed to get my corner in the next 3 day bidding period thereby avoiding bidding wars. It appeared that Bowener had dropped to the third most desirable CB. I liked him over Harris, since the Broncos might play him at nickle all year. Bidding up Sherman was likely draw counter bids. So Bowener became my guy. I doubled his bid value making him the highest bid CB on the board. Now, people bidding for a CB would be targeting Sherman and Harris instead of my guy. I felt pretty good that the three day clock would expire before the market caught up with him again.

It turns out that the league 2 market didn't get that aggressive during my 3 day window, and as a result I overbid him a bit -- it looks like a bid of 250 or even less would have been enough. But if you look at the late market in league 2, people are bidding at or near 200 for mediocre FS, LT, and RT. So relative to the late market, I think I got value. I got my man and was able to still address most of the other key needs I had going into FA. I would have liked to get a value player at guard, and I think Phillip Wheeler is an interesting luxury player due to his ability to brink heat from the OLB position. A more accurate bid on Bowener would have allowed me to get my guard, but Wheeler was out of my reach regardless. So overall I'm very pleased with my FA acquisitions in league 2. I have a dynasty roster that should allow me to compete for a number of years.

patteeu 06-24-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9772847)
Now that it appears that I am done in FA, here was my strategy in bidding 300 clams for Bowener. I looked at the total money available to all the teams in FA and the current bids on all players at that time. Even assuming that only 70% would be spent, the market was still under financed by a factor of 3. In other words there was a lot of cash out there chasing limited talent. I also projected that prices on players would go way up once people started realizing that the talent pool was shrinking. That situation is now manifest in league 1 where my $72 won't buy a 2nd tier starting guard.

I was also facing a situation where I really wanted one of the top 3 CBs, and there were more than 3 teams chasing those three players. Patty had just out bid me on Chris Harris Jr. and I could see a situation where those corners would slowly be bid up in value until I could no longer afford one of them. Therefore I vowed to get my corner in the next 3 day bidding period thereby avoiding bidding wars. It appeared that Bowener had dropped to the third most desirable CB. I liked him over Harris, since the Broncos might play him at nickle all year. Bidding up Sherman was likely draw counter bids. So Bowener became my guy. I doubled his bid value making him the highest bid CB on the board. Now, people bidding for a CB would be targeting Sherman and Harris instead of my guy. I felt pretty good that the three day clock would expire before the market caught up with him again.

It turns out that the league 2 market didn't get that aggressive during my 3 day window, and as a result I overbid him a bit -- it looks like a bid of 250 or even less would have been enough. But if you look at the late market in league 2, people are bidding at or near 200 for mediocre FS, LT, and RT. So relative to the late market, I think I got value. I got my man and was able to still address most of the other key needs I had going into FA. I would have liked to get a value player at guard, and I think Phillip Wheeler is an interesting luxury player due to his ability to brink heat from the OLB position. A more accurate bid on Bowener would have allowed me to get my guard, but Wheeler was out of my reach regardless. So overall I'm very pleased with my FA acquisitions in league 2. I have a dynasty roster that should allow me to compete for a number of years.

Good strategy.

DJ's left nut 06-24-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9772863)
Good strategy.

I tried it in league 1....didn't work.

I jumped Sherman from 190 to 250 hoping to scare off bidders in the early process. Nope - he ended up going for over $400.

I tried over-bidding Desmond Bryant up to the 90's and beyond from the 60s (I finally bailed at around $125). He went for 170 or some other such insanity.

Like CD, I was worried about scarce talent towards the end really inflating the pricetags of guys. I finally got his strategy to work when I was able to get Tarrel Brown for $115 when Chris Harris went for over 200, but for the most part, the market was in full-blitz mode from the very start. There's just very little inflation left to be had when tags started out so high.

We have 3 teams that had a full-on FA frenzy strategy and it just turned the FA process into a bloodbath. Rob Jackson, who I was able to get in a late bid for $13 in league 2 went for something like $140 in league 1.

It's been crazy.

MagicHef 06-24-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9772847)
Now that it appears that I am done in FA, here was my strategy in bidding 300 clams for Bowener. I looked at the total money available to all the teams in FA and the current bids on all players at that time. Even assuming that only 70% would be spent, the market was still under financed by a factor of 3. In other words there was a lot of cash out there chasing limited talent. I also projected that prices on players would go way up once people started realizing that the talent pool was shrinking. That situation is now manifest in league 1 where my $72 won't buy a 2nd tier starting guard.

I was also facing a situation where I really wanted one of the top 3 CBs, and there were more than 3 teams chasing those three players. Patty had just out bid me on Chris Harris Jr. and I could see a situation where those corners would slowly be bid up in value until I could no longer afford one of them. Therefore I vowed to get my corner in the next 3 day bidding period thereby avoiding bidding wars. It appeared that Bowener had dropped to the third most desirable CB. I liked him over Harris, since the Broncos might play him at nickle all year. Bidding up Sherman was likely draw counter bids. So Bowener became my guy. I doubled his bid value making him the highest bid CB on the board. Now, people bidding for a CB would be targeting Sherman and Harris instead of my guy. I felt pretty good that the three day clock would expire before the market caught up with him again.

It turns out that the league 2 market didn't get that aggressive during my 3 day window, and as a result I overbid him a bit -- it looks like a bid of 250 or even less would have been enough. But if you look at the late market in league 2, people are bidding at or near 200 for mediocre FS, LT, and RT. So relative to the late market, I think I got value. I got my man and was able to still address most of the other key needs I had going into FA. I would have liked to get a value player at guard, and I think Phillip Wheeler is an interesting luxury player due to his ability to brink heat from the OLB position. A more accurate bid on Bowener would have allowed me to get my guard, but Wheeler was out of my reach regardless. So overall I'm very pleased with my FA acquisitions in league 2. I have a dynasty roster that should allow me to compete for a number of years.

If Harris is playing nickle, then he's moving there while playing on the outside in base. He played almost twice as many snaps as the 3rd CB in Denver in 2012. He played more snaps than Browner did, in fact. Add to that the fact that he's better than Browner and 5 years younger.

I like your idea of a sudden large bid to avoid the narrowing market, I just question the target.

MagicHef 06-24-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9772880)
I tried it in league 1....didn't work.

I jumped Sherman from 190 to 250 hoping to scare off bidders in the early process. Nope - he ended up going for over $400.

I tried over-bidding Desmond Bryant up to the 90's and beyond from the 60s (I finally bailed at around $125). He went for 170 or some other such insanity.

Like CD, I was worried about scarce talent towards the end really inflating the pricetags of guys. I finally got his strategy to work when I was able to get Tarrel Brown for $115 when Chris Harris went for over 200, but for the most part, the market was in full-blitz mode from the very start. There's just very little inflation left to be had when tags started out so high.

We have 3 teams that had a full-on FA frenzy strategy and it just turned the FA process into a bloodbath. Rob Jackson, who I was able to get in a late bid for $13 in league 2 went for something like $140 in league 1.

It's been crazy.

I got Desmond Bryant in both leagues. $165 in league 1 and $8 in league 2.

DJ's left nut 06-24-2013 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9772888)
I got Desmond Bryant in both leagues. $165 in league 1 and $8 in league 2.

You you've paid 50+ for him had I jumped over here a little sooner.

Bryant's among the better interior pass-rushers in the league; I can't believe nobody felt he was worth $9 over here.

cdcox 06-24-2013 02:42 PM

Black = Holdover from last year
Red = Rookie
Green = Free Agent
Orange = Trade


QB-- Eli Manning, Dennis Dixon
HB-- Alfred Morris, DeAngelo Williams, Jahvid Best, Darius Reynaud
FB--none
WR-- Victor Cruz, Emmanual Sanders, Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown, David Nelon, Arrelious Benn
TE-- Jermaine Gresham, Matt Spaeth
C--Alex Mack, Fernando Velasco
G-- Uche Nwaneri, Ryan Miller
RT-- Orlando Franklin
LT-- Michael Oher, Jason Peters

DT-- Geno Atkins, Jurrell Casey, Sen'Derrick Marks, Akiem Hicks
DE-- Jason Pierre-Paul, Michael D. Johnson, Kroy Biermann, Jarvis Jenkins
ILB-- James Laurinaitis, Kelvin Sheppard, Demorrio Williams
OLB-- Kaluka Maiava, K.J. Wright, Mychal Kendricks, David Hawthorne, James Anderson, Everette Brown
CB -- Brandon Flowers, Brandon Browner, Cortez Allen, Trumaine Johnson, Joselio Hanson, Ron Brooks, Ras-I Dowling, Richard Marshall, Stanford Routt
FS -- Harrison Smith
SS-- Kam Chancellor, Louis Delmas, Donte Whitner

K-- Conner Barth
P-- Mike Scifres
KR/PR-- Darius Reynaud

cdcox 06-24-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9772883)
If Harris is playing nickle, then he's moving there while playing on the outside in base. He played almost twice as many snaps as the 3rd CB in Denver in 2012. He played more snaps than Browner did, in fact. Add to that the fact that he's better than Browner and 5 years younger.

I like your idea of a sudden large bid to avoid the narrowing market, I just question the target.

I was scratching my head over the acquisition of Rodgers-Cromartie by the Broncos. Makes me think they aren't that high on Harris.

Bowener missed 4 games due to suspension. He was back for the playoffs so that seemed like minimal damage. Bowener was a 2nd year player last year, I didn't realize that he was 27 when he entered the league. That probably would have tipped my hand back to Harris.

cdcox 06-24-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9772880)
I tried it in league 1....didn't work.

I jumped Sherman from 190 to 250 hoping to scare off bidders in the early process. Nope - he ended up going for over $400.

I tried over-bidding Desmond Bryant up to the 90's and beyond from the 60s (I finally bailed at around $125). He went for 170 or some other such insanity.

Like CD, I was worried about scarce talent towards the end really inflating the pricetags of guys. I finally got his strategy to work when I was able to get Tarrel Brown for $115 when Chris Harris went for over 200, but for the most part, the market was in full-blitz mode from the very start. There's just very little inflation left to be had when tags started out so high.

We have 3 teams that had a full-on FA frenzy strategy and it just turned the FA process into a bloodbath. Rob Jackson, who I was able to get in a late bid for $13 in league 2 went for something like $140 in league 1.

It's been crazy.

If the market is under bid by a factor of 2 or 3, you need to make your jump bids at least a double bid over current value to beat the inflationary curve. A 50% up bid won't do it. But League 1 was super aggressive so it may not have worked even then.

In league 1 I ended up just investing in contracts. I was hoping to land 2 or 3 value free agents, but came in late and only got one. I played in the Sandbox Bowl last year, but with my lack of playmakers at RB and WR, I'll feel lucky to make the playoffs.

DJ's left nut 06-24-2013 02:56 PM

BROWNER!!!!

Say it with me, CD - Brandon Browner.

cdcox 06-24-2013 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9772950)
BROWNER!!!!

Say it with me, CD - Brandon Browner.

LMAO I paid $300 for him, I'll call him whatever I damn well please.

Hammock Parties 06-24-2013 05:27 PM

I don't understand the FA market in league 2. It's like people don't care. I just scored this guy for 10 bucks.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...F/FootLa20.htm

DJ's left nut 06-24-2013 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9773189)
I don't understand the FA market in league 2. It's like people don't care. I just scored this guy for 10 bucks.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...F/FootLa20.htm

I ran out of money because Roberto Garza was evidently worth 1/3 of Little Rock's free-agent budget.

Rainman, I appreciate your efforts good sir, but that is not a move I'd have made.

I'm not sure I'd have gone over 10; the market for mediocre Cs is pretty soft.

But after witnessing the carnage of the Battle of Jeff Saturday, I probably shouldn't be too surprised that Rainman lost his mind chasing a C.

I'm with you, I can't believe how soft the FA market in League 2 is.

TambaBerry 06-24-2013 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9773189)
I don't understand the FA market in league 2. It's like people don't care. I just scored this guy for 10 bucks.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...F/FootLa20.htm

Larry Foote is a good player, didn't need him cause I picked up Freeman. I would have loved to of had him though.

Rain Man 06-24-2013 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9773201)
I ran out of money because Roberto Garza was evidently worth 1/3 of Little Rock's free-agent budget.

Rainman, I appreciate your efforts good sir, but that is not a move I'd have made.

I'm not sure I'd have gone over 10; the market for mediocre Cs is pretty soft.

But after witnessing the carnage of the Battle of Jeff Saturday, I probably shouldn't be too surprised that Rainman lost his mind chasing a C.

I'm with you, I can't believe how soft the FA market in League 2 is.


You'll thank me when he anchors your line for the next decade.

And Saturday is the final piece to our Sandbox Bowl puzzle over in League 1. Look at my team over there. It's a team of jedis.

TambaBerry 06-25-2013 10:36 AM

I think this team has a chance at the title. I can't remember who I had and who I didn't when I got this team because there was a ton of turnover.

QB- Matthew Stafford
HB- Adrian Peterson, Reggie Bush
FB- none
WR- Steve Smith, Andrew Hawkins, Michael Jenkins Tiguan Underwood
TE- Martellus Bennett, Randy McMichael, Taylor Thompson
LT- Jeff Backus
LG- Shawn Lauvao
C Todd McClure
RG- Ted Larsen
RT- Byron Bell

DE- Greg Hardy, Corey Wootton, Red Bryant, Frank Alexander
DT- Nick Fairley, Chris Canty, Brandon Deaderick
MLB- Jerrell Freeman
OLB- Lavonte David, Kevin Burnett, Zach Brown, James Harrison
CB- Tarell Brown, Asante Samuel, Keenan Lewis, Jimmy Smith, Jonte Green
SS- Eric Berry
FS- Usama Young, Kendrick Lewis

Rain Man 06-25-2013 09:54 PM

Rancho Cucamonga signs TE Weslye Saunders and cuts HB LeGarrette Blount.

Rain Man 06-25-2013 09:56 PM

Provo signs TE Tom Crabtree and cuts FS Cody Grimm.

rtmike 06-26-2013 11:26 AM

So, tambaberry, you said I gave up too much when I traded A. Hernandez & Greg Little for Kalil, Z. Miller some draft picks & a 3rd? Gronk's rumored to be ready by preseason games but he can't stay on the field so who's gonna take those 2's place? Oh yeah, I picked up Kellen Winslow for a $1.

You kiddin' me? I knew zackly what I was doing. ROFL

What a dough head...(Hernandez). :shake:

TambaBerry 06-26-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtmike (Post 9776851)
So, tambaberry, you said I gave up too much when I traded A. Hernandez & Greg Little for Kalil, Z. Miller some draft picks & a 3rd? Gronk's rumored to be ready by preseason games but he can't stay on the field so who's gonna take those 2's place? Oh yeah, I picked up Kellen Winslow for a $1.

You kiddin' me? I knew zackly what I was doing. ROFL

What a dough head...(Hernandez). :shake:

Lol I never said who got the bad end but ya he's an idiot.

rtmike 06-26-2013 01:24 PM

It's alright if other people want to ridicule me & how I strategize. You're leaving other people alone, lol.

I've also been known to give up more than necessary to get someone I want. That's always been one of my problems'. LMAO

TambaBerry 06-26-2013 01:35 PM

Ya for sure now that he probably won't play you got by far the best deal

DJ's left nut 06-26-2013 01:40 PM

I'd take Hernandez for the year if he's available. Obviously his trade value has...uh...declined, but I have next to nothing at TE and Hernandez is a fine stop-gap for me.

Hammock Parties 06-26-2013 01:42 PM

Pretty pleased with the upgrades I've been able to make to the Sioux Falls Swagger.

I think they'll be a strong playoff team.

rtmike 06-26-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9777211)
Ya for sure now that he probably won't play you got by far the best deal


probably?

Somebody will claim him, prolly Snyder. :spock:

TambaBerry 06-26-2013 04:03 PM

I am still looking for a FS if anyone has one available

Rain Man 06-26-2013 06:13 PM

News Update:

We will be turning on the depth charts, updating player availability by week, and turning on the game planning elements early next week, perhaps as early as Sunday. You can use this to get your team up and running.

Kickoff for Week 1 is currently planned for July 1st. We will play the season relatively quickly because we want to get the 2013 offseason completed (2013 draft) prior to the NFL kickoff.

Good luck, everybody! And remember, you're undefeated right now.

cdcox 06-26-2013 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9777918)
News Update:

We will be turning on the depth charts, updating player availability by week, and turning on the game planning elements early next week, perhaps as early as Sunday. You can use this to get your team up and running.

Kickoff for Week 1 is currently planned for July 1st. We will play the season relatively quickly because we want to get the 2013 offseason completed (2013 draft) prior to the NFL kickoff.

Good luck, everybody! And remember, you're undefeated right now.

Slight correction:

Kickoff for Week 1 is currently planned for July 8th.

Also all settings in the game planning will go to default values, so if you have any schemes you're fond of you may want to write them down.

Rain Man 06-26-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9778009)
Slight correction:

Kickoff for Week 1 is currently planned for July 8th.

Also all settings in the game planning will go to default values, so if you have any schemes you're fond of you may want to write them down.

[Chris Farley voice] GOD! I'm so dumb! Can't even read a calendar! Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! [/Chris Farley voice]

trndobrd 06-27-2013 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9778009)
Slight correction:

Kickoff for Week 1 is currently planned for July 8th.

Also all settings in the game planning will go to default values, so if you have any schemes you're fond of you may want to write them down.

"Colonel Stevens? Good morning, it's Trndobrd. GM with the Round Rock Tamaba Tornado. Yeah, things are great. Thanks. Umm...Remember how I asked you to send those F-16s for a flyover of Tamba Stadium on July first?...."

TambaBerry 06-28-2013 04:43 PM

still looking for a FS if anyone has one

TambaBerry 06-28-2013 08:21 PM

anyone want brad meester?
Toby Gerhart?
Phillip Dillard?

Rain Man 06-30-2013 08:27 AM

Anchorages announces a big trade with the Kansas City Fubar. Anchorage receivers DE Charles Johnson and KC's 5th round pick next year, while KC receives Anchorage's 1st round pick next year.

To make room for him, Anchorage cuts rookie DE Jonathan Massaquoi.

Rain Man 06-30-2013 08:28 AM

Anchorage now has DE Israel Idonije on the block. 7.5 sacks last year and was available for all 16 games. Good player.

Rain Man 06-30-2013 09:26 AM

So who has the most pro bowlers on their roster: http://www.nfl.com/probowl/story/0ap...osters-afc-nfc

Rancho Cucamonga has:

OLB Demarcus Ware
QB Drew Brees

Provo has:

OLB Aldon Smith


Anchorage has:

DT Vince Wilfork
G Chris Snee
LT Russell Okung
QB Peyton Manning

Seattle has:

CB Charles Tillman
DE Cameron Wake
HB Arian Foster
HB Doug Martin
ILB NoVorro Bowman
LB Andrew Whitworth
P Dustin Colquitt
TE Jason Witten
WR Vincent Jackson

cdcox 06-30-2013 09:45 AM

Los Angeles Knights pro bowlers:

QB Eli Manning
WR Victor Cruz
TE Jermaine Gresham
DE Jason Pierre-Paul
DT Geno Atkiins
SS Donte Whitner

I think this is my stronger team, even though the number of pro bowlers are the same.

Rain Man 06-30-2013 09:55 AM

If Chiefsplanet could elect one person to be the Chiefs' GM, it might be Andchiefs. He built the Seattle team, and they're stacked everywhere. In addition to his 9 pro bowlers, he had Darrelle Revis, Reshad Jones, Flacco at QB, and Randall Cobb. Jeepers. How did this team go 7-9 last year?

TambaBerry 06-30-2013 10:04 AM

Blair Walsh
Adrian Peterson
Eric Berry

My only three on St Louis. How did someone like Fitzgerald who had 798 yards and 4 touchdowns get the pro bowl over someone like Steve Smith who 1174 yards and 4 touchdowns?

Rain Man 06-30-2013 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9784603)
Blair Walsh
Adrian Peterson
Eric Berry

My only three on St Louis. How did someone like Fitzgerald who had 798 yards and 4 touchdowns get the pro bowl over someone like Steve Smith who 1174 yards and 4 touchdowns?

It's interesting to see who isn't in the pro bowl. My various teams had guys like Randall Cobb, Percy Harvin, Charles Johnson, Lesean McCoy, Vernon Davis, Nick Mangold, Darren Sproles, Ben Roethlisberger, Desean Jackson, Hakeem Nicks, and Brian Orakpo, where I would have guessed that they were in the pro bowl, but they weren't. It shows how competitive that process really is.

TambaBerry 06-30-2013 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9784625)
It's interesting to see who isn't in the pro bowl. My various teams had guys like Randall Cobb, Percy Harvin, Charles Johnson, Lesean McCoy, Vernon Davis, Nick Mangold, Darren Sprole, Ben Roethlisberger, Desean Jackson, Hakeem Nicks, and Brian Orakpo, where I would have guessed that they were in the pro bowl, but they weren't. It shows how competitive that process really is.

Popularity contest.

cdcox 06-30-2013 04:29 PM

OKAY, everything is set for you to build your lineups and to do your game planning for week 1, which will be simulated on July 8 if I am able to get everything ready by then. We will simulate a new week of games every 2 days or so. You can also see the league schedule for this season. We need to solidify rosters by then, so I am going to shut down new bids in FA and shorten the time clock to 24 hours later today. Once the season starts, there will be no trades and your roster will be frozen. If you haven't trimmed your roster to 53 players yet, now is the time to do it. You can see your week by week player availability in your roster page. I will describe how player availability for the playoffs was determined in a future post.

Rain Man 06-30-2013 05:36 PM

Time out for a bit, folks. There's a minor database problem that is affecting player availability. Sandbox Simulations has our finest minds working on the problem.

We'll let you know once we launch again.

Hammock Parties 06-30-2013 05:54 PM

The Sioux Falls Swagger need a backup running back, so we're looking to make a trade.

Anyone considering dealing one?

Would also consider a starter. Have a lot of trade ammo at WR.

TambaBerry 06-30-2013 05:56 PM

reggie bush for aj green?

Hammock Parties 06-30-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9785384)
reggie bush for aj green?

You have to be joking.

Hammock Parties 06-30-2013 06:01 PM

Here's some players I can afford to trade for a backup HB.

Yeremiah Bell
Brian Hartline
John Greco
Chris Crocker

Would also trade a pick.

Would consider moving Mike A. Williams or Andre Johnson in a trade for a starter.

Rain Man 06-30-2013 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9785393)
Here's some players I can afford to trade for a backup HB.

Yeremiah Bell
Brian Hartline
John Greco
Chris Crocker

Would also trade a pick.

Would consider moving Mike A. Williams or Andre Johnson in a trade for a starter.

Mikel Leshore for Brian Hartline. Win-win.

Hammock Parties 06-30-2013 07:26 PM

Trading a 1,000-yard WR for a RB who averaged 3.7 YPC probably isn't happening.

If I can't get a better offer I'll consider it though.

Rain Man 06-30-2013 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9785487)
Trading a 1,000-yard WR for a RB who averaged 3.7 YPC probably isn't happening.

If I can't get a better offer I'll consider it though.

I can take Andre Johnson instead if you prefer.

TambaBerry 06-30-2013 07:45 PM

looking to move James Harrison if anyone is interested?

Rain Man 06-30-2013 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9785502)
looking to move James Harrison if anyone is interested?

Anchorage is interested. What do you need?

Hammock Parties 06-30-2013 08:01 PM

The Sioux Falls Swagger and the St. Louis Spiders complete a deal, sending Mike A. Williams for Reggie Bush.

In other news, Brian Hartline states he loves Sioux Falls like family, and will never leave for any reason, and definitely not for a nasty place like Anchorage.

Hammock Parties 06-30-2013 08:03 PM

I am now looking to trade for a 4th WR. Will trade a pick or:

Yeremiah Bell
John Greco
Chris Crocker

Rain Man 06-30-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9785520)
The Sioux Falls Swagger and the St. Louis Spiders complete a deal, sending Mike A. Williams for Reggie Bush.

In other news, Brian Hartline states he loves Sioux Falls like family, and will never leave for any reason, and definitely not for a nasty place like Anchorage.

We were never interested in a slug like Hartline. It was all a negotiating leverage ploy with LeShoure's agent.

TambaBerry 06-30-2013 08:23 PM

Have an abundance of lower WR make an offer on any but Steve Smith, Mike Williams, and Josh Morgan

cdcox 06-30-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9785231)
OKAY, everything is set for you to build your lineups and to do your game planning for week 1, which will be simulated on July 8 if I am able to get everything ready by then. We will simulate a new week of games every 2 days or so. You can also see the league schedule for this season. We need to solidify rosters by then, so I am going to shut down new bids in FA and shorten the time clock to 24 hours later today. Once the season starts, there will be no trades and your roster will be frozen. If you haven't trimmed your roster to 53 players yet, now is the time to do it. You can see your week by week player availability in your roster page. I will describe how player availability for the playoffs was determined in a future post.

Try this again. Let me know if there are still players with the wrong availability. We'll fix those manually.

TambaBerry 06-30-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9785553)
Try this again. Let me know if there are still players with the wrong availability. We'll fix those manually.

Quick glance you fixed Peterson

Rain Man 06-30-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9785553)
Try this again. Let me know if there are still players with the wrong availability. We'll fix those manually.

Ray Lewis is showing up available for the whole season, and I don't think that was the case. It may be an NFL thing where the Ravens kept showing him as active.

In a minor note, Colts DT Josh Chapman shows up for a couple of games midseason, and he was on IR all season.

Rain Man 06-30-2013 08:50 PM

Maurice Jones-Drew shows up available again in Week 10 and I think he was out all year after his injury early in the season.

Rain Man 06-30-2013 08:55 PM

Jovan Belcher lost his starting job after Week 12. Obviously a special case.

MagicHef 06-30-2013 08:58 PM

I keep getting "front not specified" errors, even though I already set my front. It won't let me set it again, either.

Rain Man 06-30-2013 09:02 PM

My suspicion is that Kyle Williams the Bills DT has the availability of Kyle Williams the 49ers WR. The Bills DT shows up for all 16 games according to PFR.

cdcox 06-30-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9785585)
Ray Lewis is showing up available for the whole season, and I don't think that was the case. It may be an NFL thing where the Ravens kept showing him as active.

In a minor note, Colts DT Josh Chapman shows up for a couple of games midseason, and he was on IR all season.

There were no transactions involving Ray Lewis and he only showed up on one injury report as probable. Seems like some kind of rules violation. Ravens get the asterisk.

Chapman was a non-football injury and he was activate from Reserve on Novemeber 11, then went back on IR a couple weeks later. It could be that he never played, but he was at least eligible a couple of games.

Jones-Drew is another guy that didn't appear on injury reports for several weeks, but those weeks he may have been deactivated. Hmm. May need a code fix eventually, since I didn't use the activated-deactivated stuff. Players are deactivated for a lot of reasons.

cdcox 06-30-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9785595)
I keep getting "front not specified" errors, even though I already set my front. It won't let me set it again, either.

Okay, you should be able to set it again now.

Rain Man 06-30-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9785605)

Jones-Drew is another guy that didn't appear on injury reports for several weeks, but those weeks he may have been deactivated. Hmm. May need a code fix eventually, since I didn't use the activated-deactivated stuff. Players are deactivated for a lot of reasons.

That could become a big rat hole to try to do accurately.

Ebolapox 06-30-2013 10:10 PM

any way I could get position changes for Dont'a Hightower and Vontaze Burfict? they're listed at SLB and WLB but both played MLB (which is where they'll play in my 3-4)

Rain Man 06-30-2013 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 9785694)
any way I could get position changes for Dont'a Hightower and Vontaze Burfict? they're listed at SLB and WLB but both played MLB (which is where they'll play in my 3-4)

They're both listed in the current depth charts as OLBs.

I'm not sure we would want to get into position changes in ambiguous situations. If there's a blatant error, e.g., Peyton Manning as a running back, we'll change it.

It looks like they could move Burfict to the middle this year: http://www.cincyjungle.com/2013/2/16...fict-to-middle

Hightower was an MLB in college, I guess, but has played outside mostly in the pros: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...triots-defense

In the 3-4 I wouldn't worry a whole lot about it if they're good players. There'll be a little degradation to move an OLB inside, but it's not deadly.

cdcox 06-30-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 9785694)
any way I could get position changes for Dont'a Hightower and Vontaze Burfict? they're listed at SLB and WLB but both played MLB (which is where they'll play in my 3-4)

I'm pretty sure their listed positions are correct for what they played in 2012. You're not going to be subjected to a huge penalty by playing them inside though.

Ebolapox 06-30-2013 10:27 PM

burfict was also a MLB in college IIRC. maybe that was what was confusing me.

TambaBerry 06-30-2013 10:29 PM

What about Ted Larsen played both center and guard. Listed as a center any problem playing him as a guard?

cdcox 06-30-2013 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9785671)
That could become a big rat hole to try to do accurately.

Player availability is already a giant rathole. I hate it with the intensity of 1000 suns. The official and non-official records are crap and there are so many place where it can go wrong.

Rain Man 06-30-2013 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9785718)
What about Ted Larsen played both center and guard. Listed as a center any problem playing him as a guard?

Shouldn't be a huge issue. You'll always have some degradation when playing a guy out of position, but center and guard are pretty similar positions, so the degradation should be relatively small compared to other types of position changes.


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