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Frazod 12-03-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9175679)
Yost leaving Mizzou

Thank God. Hopefully he won't be the only one. 4321

kepp 12-03-2012 10:45 AM

How about Tony Franklin, Louisiana Tech OC, to replace Yost?

duncan_idaho 12-03-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9175846)
Really?

I saw our corners being asked to do way too much (and often unable to do it) because they weren't getting adequate support from the safeties. EJ Gaines and Kip Edwards are athletic, experience starting corners that were just getting abandoned out there and often getting picked apart because they were being left on islands.

I don't think the CBs got worse, I think they were being asked to do more than they were capable of because the safety support wasn't there.

On occasion Walker would make a nice play, but apart from those, the Mizzou safeties seemed a step behind in coverage all season long.

Fair enough. Fewer blown coverage on the back end (like the one that popped up again against Syracuse) was a big part of it, I think.

I think the scheme is a big part of the problem, too. Covering up a slot WR with Andrew Wilson, with safety support over the top, just makes it too easy for opposing offenses.

DJ's left nut 12-03-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 9175856)
How about Tony Franklin, Louisiana Tech OC, to replace Yost?

Not a bad idea, though I wonder if he has the recruiting ties.

We need a new recruiter something fierce. This class, by the time we start putting pen to paper, is going to be Hosik and tripe (and having spoken to a couple friends of mine that are coaches in the KC area and have played against Hosik, he's pretty much garbage at QB himself).

We're fast approaching a world of shit if we can't get this think kicked into gear in a hurry. It doesn't take much more than a season or two to be relegated to back-burner status.

In 2 weeks we managed to extinguish every single drop of momentum created over the last 12 months. We have to do something to get it going again.

Saulbadguy 12-03-2012 11:07 AM

/wanders aimlessly in to this thread, much like Pitt Gorilla

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Dennis Dodd ‏@dennisdoddcbs
Huge hit for Missouri recruiting. Dave Yost landed James Franklin and DGB.
/wanders out

duncan_idaho 12-03-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 9175941)
/wanders aimlessly in to this thread, much like Pitt Gorilla



/wanders out

Yost is a well-regarded recruiter, there's no doubt. But he did very little one-on-one recruiting since becoming the OC. He's used more as a closer sort (and missed on several big targets in that role, too - notably, Durron Neal, Ronnie Wingo, among others).

Missouri recruiters (personal rankings):

1) Andy Hill
2) Josh Henson
3) Craig Kuligiowski
decent gap
4) Cornell Ford
sizable gap
5) Stec
sizable gap
6) Grinch
7) Walker
8) Jones

kepp 12-03-2012 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 9175941)
/wanders aimlessly in to this thread, much like Pitt Gorilla

/wanders out

I guess it depends on whether or not recruits watched our offense this season.

DJ's left nut 12-03-2012 11:36 AM

I'd have probably put the gap between Henson and Kuligiowski (as I think Ford does a little more than that and Henson should get a little more credit as well), but yeah that seems like a pretty good breakdown.

Like I was telling a buddy of mine, the worst thing we ever did with Yost was promote him. It would've been great to keep him on board as the QB coach, where he could turn up the charm and recruit his ass off. But he was the QB coach during the best QB era in Mizzou history, so you owe him the chance to fail, I suppose.

Oh well. This has surely been a lousy month for Mizzou. Here's hoping they're able to get the bleeding stopped, bring in a premier OC and get the thing heading in the right direction again.

duncan_idaho 12-03-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9176060)
I'd have probably put the gap between Henson and Kuligiowski (as I think Ford does a little more than that and Henson should get a little more credit as well), but yeah that seems like a pretty good breakdown.

Like I was telling a buddy of mine, the worst thing we ever did with Yost was promote him. It would've been great to keep him on board as the QB coach, where he could turn up the charm and recruit his ass off. But he was the QB coach during the best QB era in Mizzou history, so you owe him the chance to fail, I suppose.

Oh well. This has surely been a lousy month for Mizzou. Here's hoping they're able to get the bleeding stopped, bring in a premier OC and get the thing heading in the right direction again.

I'm a big coach Kul fan, and that probably colors my opinions a little bit.

He's the primary decision maker on whether they offer a DLman or not, and I think his track record is pretty peerless. He's found a TON of high-end guys that were not rated as high-end guys. And he has had nice success in Texas in the past.

I think Ford's a good recruiter, but the separation for me comes from a few areas:

1) Mizzou is TRYING in St. Louis now
2) Mizzou is much better
3) Ford is black

I think those factors - outside of Ford's control -have a lot to do with his success in St. Louis.

Sully 12-03-2012 11:46 AM

I'm far more excited that we'll have a new QB coach, than an OC.
While his play calling maddened me, I've got a laundry list of problems I've had with his development if QBs (and I don't know a ton about coaching QBs, but there were some consistent problems with Mizzou QBs ever since Smith).

ChiefsCountry 12-03-2012 11:49 AM

Having met Yost ten years ago, I thought he was an aggorant ****ing ass. Couldn't stand the mother ****er. And my good friend wouldn't take their walk-on offer because of Yost.

BourbonMan 12-03-2012 01:44 PM

Mauk's father says QB will likely remain at MU

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/03...#storylink=cpy

eazyb81 12-03-2012 01:50 PM

Since Yost was also the QB coach, do we have to focus on O-coordinators that can also coach QBs?

If not, do we let a lower-level assistant go to bring in a pure QB coach?

Mosbonian 12-03-2012 02:17 PM

duncan:

Do you think that Mauk will get serious consideration for the QB position next year?

duncan_idaho 12-03-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 9176737)
duncan:

Do you think that Mauk will get serious consideration for the QB position next year?

Yes, especially if the OC brought in is more passing minded.

I'm a huge fan of Mauk (have been hearing about him for years thanks to a contact in Ohio who works in the industry) and think he has a chance to be a very special player.

I like what a healthy Franklin brings to the table, but at this point, Mauk will get a chance to compete for the job.

If the new scheme is pass-heavy, it will be Mauk, IMO.


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