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mrroandrro 06-26-2013 07:45 AM

I have Danny Woodhead available for trade. I am looking for an offensive tackle, safety or draft pick. Holler at me if u need a RB.

allen_kcCard 06-26-2013 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by allen_kcCard (Post 9776267)

And now...

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I'll wait for Adam Schefter to break more details, my sources don't have him available for details.

rageeumr 06-26-2013 08:11 AM

In a blockbuster move, Provo sends Muhammad Wilkerson and Darnell Dockett to Topeka for Nick Fairley and Kamerion Wimbley. As compensation for the wildly different contract lengths, Topeka also receives a 3rd and a 5th.

Okay guys, I know I am on the short end of this trade, but I want some opinions about how bad I got fleeced. My take is that the talent is about a wash. (Essentially Wilkerson for Fairley and Dockett for Wimbley)

The big roadblock in negotiations was that Fairley was on a 7 year contract and Wilkerson was on a 4. There was also a 1 year difference in Dockett and Wimbley's contracts. Topeka wanted compensation for that difference. That would never happen in the NFL, but it's a little different in Sandbox, where a player is essentially "free" once they sign on the dotted line. So there's a lot of value in picking up a 7 year contract on a younger player.

Basically in the end, I traded a 3rd round pick for 3 years of Fairley and a 5th round pick for 1 year of Wimbley. Fairley has a chance to make that pay off. Wimbley almost certainly won't, but I ended up just agreeing to get the guys I wanted.

Thoughts?

allen_kcCard 06-26-2013 08:26 AM

I'm curious too on others' thoughts. The contracts were a pain in the ass because although the players were even, the $80+ difference in those even players was painful and there wasn't any way to compensate for it directly without options to trade for cash considerations. I looked at the cost of signing at those rounds and even then it doesn't come up to $80, and I also have the risk of signing players at those spots that are busts.

TambaBerry 06-26-2013 09:09 AM

Idk to me there was no need in draft picks, I think the draft picks are more valuable then cash. Either way though if it helps your team out then thats ok right?

TambaBerry 06-26-2013 02:37 PM

Really glad I took the chance on Ballard now. Should be the number 2 tightend unless Gronk can't go.

rageeumr 06-26-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9776491)
Either way though if it helps your team out then thats ok right?

In the end, that's what pushed me over the edge. I feel like my team will be better this season. Now maybe come draft time I'll kick myself, but for the short term I improved.

Rain Man 06-26-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rageeumr (Post 9776340)
In a blockbuster move, Provo sends Muhammad Wilkerson and Darnell Dockett to Topeka for Nick Fairley and Kamerion Wimbley. As compensation for the wildly different contract lengths, Topeka also receives a 3rd and a 5th.

Okay guys, I know I am on the short end of this trade, but I want some opinions about how bad I got fleeced. My take is that the talent is about a wash. (Essentially Wilkerson for Fairley and Dockett for Wimbley)

The big roadblock in negotiations was that Fairley was on a 7 year contract and Wilkerson was on a 4. There was also a 1 year difference in Dockett and Wimbley's contracts. Topeka wanted compensation for that difference. That would never happen in the NFL, but it's a little different in Sandbox, where a player is essentially "free" once they sign on the dotted line. So there's a lot of value in picking up a 7 year contract on a younger player.

Basically in the end, I traded a 3rd round pick for 3 years of Fairley and a 5th round pick for 1 year of Wimbley. Fairley has a chance to make that pay off. Wimbley almost certainly won't, but I ended up just agreeing to get the guys I wanted.

Thoughts?

The contracts complicate things a bit, but I think I like Wilkerson and Dockett more than I like Fairley and Wimbley. Probably a lot more. But I guess it depends on your system.

rageeumr 06-26-2013 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9777733)
The contracts complicate things a bit, but I think I like Wilkerson and Dockett more than I like Fairley and Wimbley. Probably a lot more. But I guess it depends on your system.

It's one of those situations where it really all depends on the simulation. Both those guys are playing out of position in my 4-3. If there's negligible downgrade to play a 3-4 DE as a 4-3 DT, then it was probably a bad move for me. If it's considerable, then I feel like I'm better off.

Fansy the Famous Bard 06-26-2013 05:45 PM

Dallas looking for a wide receiver, Tight End, or Running Back.

Positions willing to deal - OLB, DT, MLB

Please PM me.

Rain Man 06-26-2013 06:12 PM

News Update:

We will be turning on the depth charts, updating player availability by week, and turning on the game planning elements early next week, perhaps as early as Sunday. You can use this to get your team up and running.

Kickoff for Week 1 is currently planned for July 1st. We will play the season relatively quickly because we want to get the 2013 offseason completed (2013 draft) prior to the NFL kickoff.

Good luck, everybody! And remember, you're undefeated right now.

cdcox 06-26-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9777917)
News Update:

We will be turning on the depth charts, updating player availability by week, and turning on the game planning elements early next week, perhaps as early as Sunday. You can use this to get your team up and running.

Kickoff for Week 1 is currently planned for July 1st. We will play the season relatively quickly because we want to get the 2013 offseason completed (2013 draft) prior to the NFL kickoff.

Good luck, everybody! And remember, you're undefeated right now.

Slight correction:

Kickoff for Week 1 is currently planned for July 8th.

Also all settings in the game planning will go to default values, so if you have any schemes you're fond of you may want to write them down.

Rain Man 06-26-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9778007)
Slight correction:

Kickoff for Week 1 is currently planned for July 8th.

Also all settings in the game planning will go to default values, so if you have any schemes you're fond of you may want to write them down.


Oh, yeah. That's what I meant to say. I blame this on society's obsession with immediate gratification.

mrroandrro 06-26-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9777871)
Dallas looking for a wide receiver, Tight End, or Running Back.

Positions willing to deal - OLB, DT, MLB

Please PM me.

Messaged you on the site

Fansy the Famous Bard 06-27-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mrroandrro (Post 9778461)
Messaged you on the site

I see no message. :shake:


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