Not mine

I really don't give a crap about that. If I want to pack in Target I'm going to do it. The thing is, I don't shop at Target more than once every two years or so, so no big deal.

yup

Got some new glass for the AR. PBJ

Nice looking rifle.

Seconded
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Target is really working on its customer appreciation angle. First, Target allows thousands of its customer's credit card information to be stolen and now it doubles down on customer safety with this BS move.

It's super ironic that their logo is a bright reddish orange target.

Pay once, gripe once brother.


You have it figured out.

Stripped Blem Loers are back in stock at Palmetto.


I swear they just make perfect new lowers and sell them as blems.

I cant believe my Green label Colt is commanding this kinda cash, I payed 850 new in the box. I dnt think I have 500 rounds through it yet.
http://www.armslist.com/posts/293090...n-unfired-lnib

WOW....I sold mine and made a killing, but nothing close to that amount!

I figured they dropped in price like most ARs.
anyways, found this lil father son building project That looks like fun
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How does this double down on customer safety?

Do you often feel threatened when at target?

Army wants a harder-hitting pistol, this comes as know shock to me. IMO it will be the 357sig that comes out the winner, they should look hard at the 10mmACP as well

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/07/...ntcmp=features

Do you have an ffl or pay a ridiculous amount of check in fees on all these lowers?

Anybody need some cheap .22 Mag?

$9.73 per 50 round box

Limit of 40 boxes

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.co...-Max_50_Rounds

Repped

Local FFL.

Last time it cost $30 for 10. You got to love small towns. ;)

Ah not bad. My cousins about two weeks from getting his so I'm about to start adding. I just keep thinking man that notorious guy is on top of his shit.

Just lucky.

I am a friendly guy, and it's a small world out here. Good things happen.


My first FFL (May he RIP) didn't want to get paid for transfers, but I always tipped him, and the new guy is the same way.

They love guns, and enjoy people that love guns, too.

Saw this. I agree, thought the military was making a mistake when they went to the 9mm in 85, just for the sake of NATO compatibility. The round when fired from most std. pistols is not or/just barely adequate. Most 9's only have a 4 or 5 inch barrel not nearly long enough to develop full velocities. The 9mm Luger was originally invented for use in the German naval Luger pistol with an 8" barrel IRC. It does preform well in the UZI or MP40. Barrel length is the key.

JMO but I hope we (the DOD) goes back to a strictly American round like the 357 mag or an up graded 45acp. Or something like them.

30 carbine is 357mag on roids. Theirs so many calibers out there better suited for combat then the 9 parabellum

My dad would totally agree with you he carried one through the Philippines and Okinawa in WWII. Swore by that old M2. It was one of the souvenirs he brought home.

Curiously Ruger, as far as I know, is the only MFG. to build a pistol chambered for 30 carbine. I think its just too hot a round to make a pistol ,of an acceptable size, out of.

Curiously Ruger, as far as I know, is the only MFG. to build a pistol chambered for 30 carbine. I think its just too hot a round to make a pistol ,of an acceptable size, out of.[/QUOTE]

There was also the AMT AutoMag III and Thompson Center made a 14" contender barrel for it. My uncle had a contender in 30 carbine that he hand loaded rounds for prairie dogs. His T/C had very loud report!

There was also the AMT AutoMag III]and Thompson Center made a 14" contender barrel for it. My uncle had a contender in 30 carbine that he hand loaded rounds for prairie dogs. His T/C had very loud report![/QUOTE]

I don't believe either one would make an acceptable replacement for the M9 for the Army.

I don't believe either one would make an acceptable replacement for the M9 for the Army.[/QUOTE]


Nope but that T/C was a lot of fun to shoot though. :D

Newest acquisition. Garage sale find from last weekend. Older lady had 2 Nylon 66s. This one and a Mohawk. My brother-in-law bought the Mohawk.

A 9mm +P has the same energy as a .45 ACP.

JG Sales has a smoking deal on some Federal 5.56.

420-round ammo can
62 grain XM855
$124.95 per can

The only catch is that you have to buy 4 cans to get that price. But you will not find a better price anywhere. Most places have it for $180 or more.

I just bought 4 cans, and even with shipping, its under 32 cents per round.

http://www.jgsales.com/5.56mm-federa...n.-p-5876.html

That is a great deal.


What do they charge to ship?

two kinds of safety (hence double down term) have been compromised by Target: credit card safety (affecting your credit score and/or identity) and personal physical safety within the store.

true but don't you need a special type of pistol to fire the +P or the ++P, that is, you need a steel frame pistol to handle the force? Can a standard Glock handle the +P or ++P ammo?

What's wrong with just going with the .40S&W?

Nothing. .40 packs a nice punch.


Or they could beef up the FS92 and keep things familiar.

They charged $36 for 4 cans.

You can add items to your cart, enter your state and zip code, and it will estimate shipping costs for you.

That's funny when the tests were being run at APG the Beretta 92 was clearly the most durable pistol, typically they would go past 30k rounds before failure.
All the others Colt, Smith, Sig, H&K started showing wear at 10K and most failed catastrophically by 15k, IIRC.

It's not the pistol it's the caliber. Since all the NATO members used a 9mm std. we felt that we should standardize on it also. It was a mistake IMO.
By the way I'm a fan of the Beretta 92 I own a couple of them They are darn good weapons.

I love that Beretta 92 pistol also, just a solid pistol. I'm not sure if they can do what Glock does and just tweak it for a larger cartridge and bullet. However, I'm pretty sure you can run +P ammo through it as is.

I just read an article about what Target is doing with their new policy. Apparently a loaded pistol was left in the toy section of one of the Target stores and that freaked out some women/moms who put pressure on Target to ask people to not "open" carry in Target stores.

I mean, it's stupid, idiotic mistakes like this (leaving your loaded pistol behind in a the kid's section of the store) that makes all gun owners look like complete tards. Blame this on the moron gun owner... seriously, that would piss me off too.

As far as I can see, Target is saying nothing about conceal carry, just open carry.

I believe Glocks can take +P, but no higher.

To me, I don't understand the compromise of .40 over .45. If you're talking about personal defense then why wouldn't you choose the largest round you can shoot effectively? If you are more concerned about recoil and magazine capacity, why not just use 9mm with a premium load or whatever?

I would wonder if that incident really happened, or if it was a plant.

No plants were harmed in this conspiracy.

Hurry, hurry, hurry! .22 lr is available at Gander Mt website:

http://www.gandermountain.com/modper...linkconn&lct=s
http://www.gandermountain.com/modper...linkconn&lct=s

I was able to successfully order two 525 rd boxes of Federal, and ten 50 rd boxes of Thunderbolt (the max for each).

And it's gone

Wow...that was fast. There were two other links on gunbot for Gander Mt created at nearly the same time that were sold out when I first checked. Lucky timing I guess. I hope my order actually gets fulfilled.

https://www.siskguns.com/star-stocks

Got to shoot one of these over the weekend..in the 22-250 Improved..it was amazing..great gun..love that caliber too

They already have check out models 94 and 96.

On the Target controversy I agree with Cochise on this, was it an actual incident or contrived to make bad press? Have to wait and see I guess.

So, in the order confirmation email I got from Gander Mountain, it says, "All in-stock items will be shipped within 1 business day." I haven't heard anything from them yet. We'll see.

well they should be able to trace whose gun it is, right? That serial number has got to be linked to an individual, right? I mean, that's what the friggen fed gov is for, right?

Find the owner.

They should be able to trace the gun, the system is there for that reason.
But were any laws broken? Is the law involved at all? Or, is this something that's just being reported by "the Press". Like the Anti-Islamic you tube video that "caused the attack on the Benghazi embassy"! The only thing I believe anymore is something I've actually seen.

I just spent a few minutes on a live help chat with their customer service. Somehow one of the 525 round boxes got taken off my order and, even though they have them in the warehouse, I'm only going to be sent one box. The ten 50 round boxes I ordered are now on backorder and should be in within two weeks. Well, at least I got some.

I could be linked to the original owner, I think. Beyond that though, who knows.

Kansas City Area USPSA (Pistol Shooting Competitions).

Tuesday nights at the Pioneer Gun Club Brickyard Road Range (350 and Noland Rd. Knobtown). 5:30-8:30 http://www.pioneergunclub.org/

Tuesday nights in Kearney at The Armory, 701 N Country Ave. 6:30-8:30 http://thearmoryonline.com/SiteResou...me=Competition

Friday nights in Shawnee at the Bullet Hole (Robinson street right off of Shawnee Mission Pkwy) 6:30-8:30 http://www.bhpsc.us/wordpress/

Saturdays rotate between different clubs. Lafayette Gun Club (3rd Saturday) http://www.lgconline.org/index.htm, Mill Creek Practical Shooting League (2nd Saturday) http://www.mcpsl.org/, and Pioneer Gun Club (4th Sunday) http://www.pioneergunclub.org/.

www.uspsa.org is the national organization's website.

There are only a couple of states (like California, suprise) that register guns by serial. In all states you have to pass a background check, but it only records whether you are attempting to purchase a handgun or a long gun, and that information is supposedly destroyed after your request is accepted or denied.

They can trace from manufacturer to FFL. When they get to the FFL he will have the paperwork stored and they can track down the original owner from there.


All bets are off after that.

I think that it was planted. It's way too convenient.

Besides, who takes it off when they are open carrying? I could see if you were in the bathroom or something, maybe you lay it or hang it somewhere in the holster, but it would make no sense to remove it when open carrying and especially not to just walk off without it. How could you walk away without noticing the weight difference or the empty holster right on your side where your arm hangs? No reasonable person would do something like that IMO

I conceal carry probably 95% of the time, and I am ALWAYS aware of my gun, and I am sure as hell not taking it off in the store.


It was probably planted by a gun-fearing cock sucker that ended up disappointed that a kid didn't find it and shoot someone so that they could capitalize off the press.

Exactly to all of this. Not realizing you are no longer carrying a several pound gun just does not happen.

That's where I'd put my money.

Or it wasn't a real gun at all.

"That Nerf gun frightened my children! "

You gotta be one sick SOB to intentionally leave a loaded pistol in a toy section of a busy department store in order to prove a point... that being said, that type of move is right up the ally of most radical left leaning sicko's.

NVM, Bing is my friend

IIRC, None of that information is destroyed, and every time an FFL dealer goes out of business, the ATF keeps all of their 4473s. The law allows dealers to destroy 4473s over 20 years old, but even so, I believe dealers still keep this information in their books. When a dealer quits the business, the ATF keeps the books and all existing 4473s.

Maybe a licensed dealer will chime in as this is just my best understanding.

Either way, NSA probably has it all anyway.:D. Instant background check is over the phone lines, so I am sure NSA has a complete database of every gun transfer in the last 20 years.

Yeah, there's not a doubt in my mind that the gubment has all those records.

I hope anybody that wanted a Russian made AK (Saiga/VEPR) already bought one. Since Obama banned their importation a couple days ago, almost all vendors are sold out, or have raised prices quite a bit.

Makes me think that there's gonna be a run on AK's from Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Yugoslavia(Serbia), etc.

Maybe he'll ban imported ammo, too.

I'm sure he will. You know he wants to do it anyway, and now he has an excuse.

you got a link verifying that Obama has done this?

5 most dangerous guns in America according to Rolling Stone magazine. See if you can guess before looking. Hint: this list is ridiculous.

Wow. I was thinking it would list things like "pistol grips" and "semi-automatic", but it even more moranic that that.

I'm considering getting some more 556 but I'm trying to decide between m-193 55gr and m-855 62gr. Which would you guys suggest for a 1x7 barrel? (same price)

I just held my Saiga over my head and yelled 'Wolverines!' a few times. It's surprisingly invigorating, and I'm sure causes Dear Leader a ton of butt-hurt. Buy my Saiga for $2200 (silver/gold bars accepted) and try it for yourself!

You might want to stock up on some more 7.62x39 surplus though.

Ammo stockpile was taken care of before Dear Leader got elected. I just don't shoot up all I own these days. Which is kind of a bummer, but elections have consequences.

I don't have a link at the moment, since I'm posting on my cell phone.

But from my understanding, the banning of Russian AK's is part of Obama's sanctions against Putin.

I think its posted on treasury.gov. You should be able to see all the Russian companies and individuals the US can't do business with.

I read this as well. who does this guy think he is?

Elections do have consequences...

Too bad it's all covered up by the media

Anyone have any experience with tangfolio .40sw pistols? My wife didn't like the gsg 522 as much as my colt ar22 so I'm thinking of trading it to a friend for this pistol. It seems like it would be an upgrade on my part but I'm not really sure about it. http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/image-11.jpg

That sucks I wanted to get a saiga 12 ga

Your Tangfolio = a CZ clone - and when made in italy they were pretty well made, a good buy for the money. They may be made in Turkey now - and I find Turkish pistols to be a 'crap shoot' - some are great and real good buys, some - not quite right.

Turkish shotguns I'll buy without much worry, but Turkish pistols may need a shakedown cruise before you put a lot of trust in 'em. Anyhoo - CZ had a good design. If you like this one - they should make 'em in 10mm, in case you have black bear worries where you're at. I'm always looking for a way to justify big bore stuff like 10mm and 45-70's.

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=5&f=36&t=71404

http://eaacorp.com/2010/11/gunblast-...-45acp-pistol/

I'm thinking pretty seriously about making the trade. I really just need an auto to take my ccw with. It looks like they're going for 350-450. I've got about 250 in the gsg. If nothing else I can get my permit and break even.