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I'm seeing it tomorrow. I expect that I'll like it.
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The story sucks. Abrams is a hack. I expect the new Star Wars trilogy will be about Luke turning to the dark side, forming a new Empire and in the third act, his son redeems him. |
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It's just sad that it's gone this route. Hoping for better in Star Trek 13. Like, oh I dunno, an original story. |
I'm eagerly anticipating Dane ripping this thing to shreds, because I know he disliked the first one, and this one, while different, was arguably worse IMO.
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Instead we got decades old Gene Rodenberry and Nick Meyer shit warmed up in a microwave and covered with chocolate syrup. Booooring. Predictable. Nothing we haven't seen before, apart from GREEN SCREEN CGI 3.0. **** this pile. I got more enjoyment out of reading Iron Man comics the other night. |
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BTW, the title is shit, too.
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What did you expect, though?
This was written by the guy who produced such amazing cinema as Transformers and Transformers II. Great idea, Paramount! |
Maybe you should quit watching these movies. They seem to make you very unhappy.
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It's kind of like eating frozen pizza. It's still good. It's pizza. It's always gonna taste pretty good. But it's not like the best pizza ever, and it never will be. |
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And you are missing the point. Plot holes or not, stretched logic or not, I'd like an interesting, original story. Not rehashed bullshit that insults my intelligence. I can accept plot holes. I can't accept ****ing uninspired hack work. The movie didn't engage me at any emotional level. Shit, at least the first one did that with Prime Spock and the destruction of Vulcan and new, interesting things I HADN'T SEEN BEFORE. **** this movie. All it did was rely on nostalgia and stupid callbacks to try and spit shine a turd of a story. And it went full reerun for the climax. Horrible. |
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I'm glad that you're just thrilled with bubblegum Star Trek, but let's not elevate it to the status of the originals, OK? Use your brain. Abrams insulted the intelligence of longtime Trek fans with this pap smear of a movie.
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Well, I'm going to go see it again in 3D IMAX on Sunday, again when Shatner hosts it at the local theater on the 25th, and probably again when my best friend gets back from Dubai in early June.
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Yeah, I'll probably see it again just for the visuals...and to confirm that the last third of the movie is an abortion.
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I was completely emotionally uninvolved in this crap and sitting there smirking during the pivotal moment in the movie, knowing EXACTLY how it was going to play out. Embarrassing "story." |
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I just expect something original, not a ****ing rehash. It's weak, short-cut, cop-out story telling. JJ Abrams might as well be George Lucas at this point, telling us all THEY'RE POETRY, THEY RHYME!!!! |
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91% of the audience liked the 2009 Star Trek movie, and 89% of the audience likes Star Trek Into Darkness. The movies do even better with film critics: 95% of critics liked Star Trek, and 91% of them like Star Trek Into Darkness. So you can criticize JJ Abrams and these movies all you want. But you're stating your opinions as though they are facts. They aren't facts. They are opinions that are shared by a tiny minority of people. |
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Yes, they're entertaining movies. That's why people like them.
But to compare them to Voyage Home or Undiscovered Country...get the **** out. PS - it's a fact that Abrams ripped the climax off this movie off. And it ****ing sucked. And it ruined the movie for me and a lot of other die-hard Trek fans. There better not be no Genesis Device in Star Trek: Out of Darkness, or whatever shitty title the third one has. Because, shit, they already have Carol Marcus in this one, so it's just a hop, skip and a jump to more ripoff stories! |
Really liked it.
Loved the way the events of the first movie led to the expansion of section 31 (one of my favorite aspects of DS9) and the militarization of starfleet. Loved the way it led to the discovery of the botany bay years earlier than in the original timeline. Loved the way Section 31 used Khan. Loved the way that Kirk and Spock grew in different ways, and before the 5 year mission. Did not love the deus ex machina of Khan's blood, but they established very early on (like 10 min into the movie) that that's what was going to happen, so no shock. Spock's Wilhem scream was too much fan service, but that was basically him losing control of his emotions, and having Uhura help him regain control of himself was a nice circular resolution via role-reversal. All-in-all I think I enjoyed that as much as the 2009 Trek. Maybe will end up liking it more after repeat viewings, and I'm curious to see where they go next, since the 5 year mission will free them up to basically do whatever the hell they want. |
I liked it as well, except they didn't need to kill off/resurrect Kirk. My buds thought they sold Khan short, I thought it was well done.
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This left me cold and bored at the end. The entire "homage" pulled me right out of the movie. It was like a bad parody. |
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That's what would make it so awesome. They could have really milked this Federation vs Section 31 vs Klingons idea...but they copped out and took a cheap, bullshit, easy route. But it's ****ing Damon Lindelof. So...it's to be expected. |
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Just watched it. Overall I really enjoyed it. This cast is just incredible. Say what you want, but you can't complain about the cast. They absolutely nail these characters and Pine deserves to be a star.
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A lot of people really don't like this.
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Anyway, if there's one thing this has taught me...I now know why people hate Damon Lindelof.
I didn't quite get it on Prometheus, because I'm sure his stench was somewhat covered up by Ridley Scott, and the fact that it's hard to **** up an Aliens movie (because even the shit ones are fun)....but I get it now. **** him. Hard. With spiked things. |
While I'm no hardcore Trekkie, I did enjoy the movie as a whole.
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Star Trek Into Darkness is performing very poorly at the box office. It's $20 million under estimates this weekend and the numbers will continue to slip. It'll likely hit its budget of $190 million but I think the future will is murky. It's taken in less during its opening weekend than Star Trek in 2009. That is not a good sign. Abrams has never been a Star Trek fan and he's off to the Star Wars universe, his true first love. Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof haven't shown that they can create blockbuster movies on their own and Lindelof's quickly developing a "Franchise Killer" rep around town. Paramount will likely look to a completely different team if the decide to move forward. Paramount was really upset with Abrams and the four year lag between films and the box office disappointment with the sequel will likely give them pause when considering another director, writer and most importantly, budget, if they decide to move forward in the Star Trek universe. Right now, I don't think that's a given. Studios don't usually make movies, especially big budget summer blockbusters, with the intent to "break even". |
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I will say I wouldn't mind jettisoning Abrams - this four years between films shit is ridiculous, and it will only get worse now that he's dabbling in Star Wars.
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Dane, don't you think there is sort of a cap with how much box office potential there is with Trek? I know the last film did well, but that was sort of an anomaly. Trek has sort of always been niche to an extent. I wouldn't say it holds the 4 quadrant appeal of most summer blockbusters. I don't think I saw anyone under 21 in my audience except my son and a few other families with small kids. Very limited female appeal as well. |
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I mean, it was entertaining. But after all that special effects wizardry thrown into my face..... "Meh." It just proves that Star Trek really isn't about special effects. |
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I went with my sons, 18 and 14. The older one is fairly familiar with the TOS; in fact, last night we watched three of my favorite TOS episodes, and we both agreed they were better than this high-tech movie. He had pretty much the same reaction I did. My 14-year-old, though, knows virtually nothing about TOS, and he liked the movie more than we did. And I'm sure there's lots of folks, young and old, like him out there. I agree with GoChiefs: Come up with something original. If I see there are whales in the next one, I'm checking out. |
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