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ADD / ADHD.. do you have it? (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=294190)

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11689593)

It exists elsewhere in the world, but the circumstances leading to the diagnosis are often mishandled. I already stated that I think it's way overdiagnosed especially among children.

American parents typically aren't around as much to structure the lives of their kids. This has a significant effect when kids are spending their unstructured time doing whatever they want at home and then getting to school where they have to sit in a desk and get test standards shoved in their ears.

There are differences to explain why America has a problem with the increase, but to say outright that ADD and ADHD don't exist because some hippie says so shows a gap in your logic.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1525089/

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2014/04/adhd.aspx

First off, I don't think Dr. Eisenberg was a hippie - most hippies aren't into speed :D

No, seriously - I agree with most all of what you say, but I've studied this stuff in college (sociology, psychology) and I'm convinced it doesn't really exist.

Even though the diagnosis is used to describe a certain set of vaugue "symptoms" that people do exhibit and that the "treatment" works for, there is not a single shred of forensic or psychological evidence that it actually exists. If someone has a chemical imbalance, it shows up in the blood work, then they get Depakote or Lithium/Librium.

And whereas the "symptoms" may be real, Dr. Eisenberg, the man who invented ADHD, did on his death bed come clean that he fabricated said disease. There have been recent documentaries on BBC about ADD. I think the symptoms are very real but if the inventor admits that it was a hoax and he invented it then it seems that maybe something is being misdiagnosed here or misunderstood.*

I thought this was interesting. You can have the symptoms of a fictitious disease but you can't have a fictitious disease.*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K62Te9xbUmQ
I think she raises a few great points that could be considered in an intelligent conversation.

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 11689631)

Don't blame you. It's pretty much human experimentation with no studies on long term effects. Short term benefits have been pretty impressive for me though, so I'll keep on for a while and see what happens.

Yeah, I'm interested on a psychological and sociological level, so keep checking in (this thread is as good as any), but I think I'm at the point in my life personally where weed and coffee are about as experimental as I wanna get.

I am glad all these drugs weren't available when I was a child, because I am sure I would have been diagnosed with something needing drugs.

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A major investigation into scores of claims made in psychology research journals has delivered a bleak verdict on the state of the science.

An international team of experts repeated 100 experiments published in top psychology journals and found that they could reproduce only 36% of original findings.

The study, which saw 270 scientists repeat experiments on five continents, was launched by psychologists in the US in response to rising concerns over the reliability of psychology research.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...riment-results

There was my life before adderall and my extremely productive and satisfying life after taking it. I'm sure there are alternatives to it, but it works quite well for me and doesn't cost me anything.

It's a helluva drug.

I've heard great things about adderall and coke.

I'm not a drug type of guy, though. I don't get flu shots, I don't take ibuprofen when I get a headache, etc. I prefer to let my body sort shit out.

At the same time, I don't think I have any major psychological afflictions that warrant a prescription.

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 11689580)

In the college scene around here it can go for as much as 1 dollar per mg. So a 10 is $10. Which is insane.

I'd have a ****ing doctorate in something by now if I had discovered adderall when I was 18