ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Food and Drink Big Green Egg (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=289826)

Stewie 05-03-2016 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 12214039)
I've actually read that a water pan in a komodo actually makes it noticeably TOO moist.

There's another problem with the Komodo. Juicy brisket is horrible.

tooge 05-03-2016 03:15 PM

Oh, and one other thing. I hear BGE folks talk about how it's not just a smoker like the WSM, but it can grill, bake, etc. Ummmm, so can any vertical cooking vessel. If you pull out the middle section of the WSM, you essentially have a kettle with a lid. Don't use the water pan, and you are grilling. Use the water pan, and you are baking. Same thing.

Fire Me Boy! 05-03-2016 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 12214241)
Not really. They are both vertical style smokers/cookers in essence. Both are charcoal fueled. Both have a lid that opens at the top with the food above the heat/smoke source. Really, the only difference is that the BGE is ceramic and the Weber is enamel coated steel. Temp control is very similar as well. I don't use water in my WSM, rather I fill the water pan with a small layer of sand that I put foil over, so it doesn't act as a "water smoker". One is just larger, lighter, less expensive, and more mobile because it easily breaks down into it's three pieces. Also, I'm guessing you are using the cooking area of the 18" model. The 22.5 is much more. Regarding the temp control, I've had both the 18 and the 22.5, and I saw no difference at all in that. It just takes more coals to get the same temp on the 22.5, but were still talking only about 2 chimneys of fuel.



Re: cost and weight, you keep referencing the BGE. The Akorn is MUCH cheaper and lighter than BGE. I'm not even considering BGE, as I won't spend that much money.

Stewie 05-03-2016 03:20 PM

FMB. Do you own a smoker? Just curious.

Fire Me Boy! 05-03-2016 03:29 PM

Big Green Egg
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 12214268)
FMB. Do you own a smoker? Just curious.



I used to have an offset, and at various points a propane vertical, and now an electric (that I got new for free, and don't use much).

I have a Weber Platinum charcoal kettle 22.5" for grilling. Done a /little/ smoking on it.

Stewie 05-03-2016 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 12214275)
I used to have an offset, and at various points a propane vertical, and now an electric (that I got new for free, and don't use much).

I have a Weber Platinum charcoal kettle 22.5" for grilling. Done a /little/ smoking on it.

That's quite an array. Did any of those options turn out good Q?

Fire Me Boy! 05-03-2016 03:44 PM

Big Green Egg
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 12214290)
That's quite an array. Did any of those options turn out good Q?



The offset did a great job as long as I babysat the hell out of it. The propane did a nice job, particularly moist. The electric is my least favorite, but the easiest to deal with. The little wood pucks aren't the best. But it makes OK Q.

I've only used my Weber once for a bacon, which only took a couple hours and did a good enough job... Better than my electric did with other bacons.

stanleychief 05-03-2016 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 12214257)
Oh, and one other thing. I hear BGE folks talk about how it's not just a smoker like the WSM, but it can grill, bake, etc. Ummmm, so can any vertical cooking vessel. If you pull out the middle section of the WSM, you essentially have a kettle with a lid. Don't use the water pan, and you are grilling. Use the water pan, and you are baking. Same thing.


Not the same thing, sorry. I've owned my Kamado Joe for about 5 years now, and many grills and smokers prior to that. Sure, you can cook on just about any smoker or grill, but the BGE will do a much better job at baking, roasting and general cooking. Try some chicken off of a BGE, and you'll see what I mean. Food comes out moist without the need for added water. Temperature recovery and stability is much better due to the thick ceramic too.

I'd say that the WSM can easily smoke just as well if not better than a BGE, but cooking is another story. Anyone looking to just smoke stuff would be much better served by getting something cheaper.

Stewie 05-03-2016 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanleychief (Post 12214303)
Not the same thing, sorry. I've owned my Kamado Joe for about 5 years now, and many grills and smokers prior to that. Sure, you can cook on just about any smoker or grill, but the BGE will do a much better job at baking, roasting and general cooking. Try some chicken off of a BGE, and you'll see what I mean. Food comes out moist without the need for added water. Temperature recovery and stability is much better due to the thick ceramic too.

I'd say that the WSM can easily smoke just as well if not better than a BGE, but cooking is another story. Anyone looking to just smoke stuff would be much better served by getting something cheaper.

Wait! What? This is about SMOKING! Who's baking/cooking???... in a smoker? There are several other BETTER methods for that.

stanleychief 05-03-2016 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 12214321)
Wait! What? This is about SMOKING! Who's baking/cooking???... in a smoker? There are several other BETTER methods for that.

BGE isn't just a smoker. You can actually bake and cook quite well in one. That being said, yes, there are much better options for both, providing you are near a kitchen.

stanleychief 05-03-2016 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 12213561)
Strange bump. I bought an egg over a year ago and love it

I'm hoping you've been to this site already since you've had your BGE for a year: http://www.nakedwhiz.com/ceramic.htm

The lump charcoal database is awesome, as is the 'T-Rex' steak cooking method. It's absolutely worth trying.

Stewie 05-03-2016 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanleychief (Post 12214334)
I'm hoping you've been to this site already since you've had your BGE for a year: http://www.nakedwhiz.com/ceramic.htm

The lump charcoal database is awesome, as is the 'T-Rex' steak cooking method. It's absolutely worth trying.

Royal Oak Lump is the vendor for Price Chopper Lump. People know this and it flies off the shelf at half the price at PC when it's on sale. Stock up!

stanleychief 05-03-2016 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 12214344)
Royal Oak Lump is the vendor for Price Chopper Lump. People know this and it flies off the shelf at half the price at PC when it's on sale. Stock up!

http://www.nakedwhiz.com/lumpdatabase/lumpbag34.htm

Yep, that's what I use.. Best Choice. Although, as you mentioned, word is starting to get out. I used to be able to find it at nearly every Price Chopper. Now I have to check a few when it's on sale!

DJ's left nut 05-09-2016 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 12213980)
The main difference between a ceramic smoker and a WSM is that a WSM is a water smoker. That makes a big difference in my opinion. It tempers the heat from the coals and adds a ton of moisture. To each his own.

Try sand in the bowl instead of water.

Still acts as a heat sink, doesn't add the moisture. Acts as a massive chunk of thermal mass so it will absorb a fair amount of heat.

It's not as bulletproof as the water, which you REALLY have to screw up to lose control of, but if you don't like all the moisture being added, it's a happy medium. Because water can essentially self-regulate, it's set and forget whereas you'll have to watch the heat on the sand. It's not ideal for pork butts but for shorter cooks like ribs, it does a nice job if you're willing to put a little more time into dialing in the temp on the WSM.

EDIT: Looks like Tooge beat me to it.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:48 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.