Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 10627033)

I keep hearing this back and forth about his noodle arm - but does anyone have video showing his inability to make certain throws? Because scouting reports I've seen have stated that he is able to make all the Pro Style throws, and Georgia ran a Pro Style set offense. There was even talk about how familiar with the terminology when the Chiefs interviewed him.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10627039)

He doesn't have a noodle arm at all. I don't know where people are getting that.

Some of his boundary throws (like out routes) can take a long time to arrive, which makes him more susceptible to picks at the NFL level.

But his biggest problem is mechanical and can be corrected. If he doesn't get his base set right, he tends to put a lot of balls short and in the dirt and stuff like that.The bottom line is that this is Chiefsplanet. There's a contingent that thinks he's going to be the #1 starter in 2015 and the next Trent Green and there's a contingent that thinks he's midget garbage.

The simple fact is that neither of those things are really true. He's a good value pick. He definitely has starter upside but his more probable fit is as a long-term backup QB in this league.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10626798)

Some truly stupid shit has been posted recently about wanting to release Daniel and keep Bray and Murray.

Why?

So when Smith goes down, which is entirely possible given his track record, the Chiefs have absolutely zero ****ing chance of even being representable on Sundays? So we can try to replicate the Tyler mother****ing Palko era?

But, but, but Daniel[s] sucks!!2!! Yeah, and he's a mother****ing HOFer compared to the likes of UDFA Bray. That's reality. And so is Murray.

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10627044)

This is what i noticed as well. he sometimes doesn't hit the swing passes to the back in stride; and some are a bit high. I think it's mostly due to foot work getting a big squirelly

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10626639)

I'm aware of that.

Watched a lot of Murray, and have always liked him.
Felt he has the same kind of accuracy and anticipation in his game as Brees.

But if he was really thought of as a high draft pick before the knee, I really doubt that knee would have caused a drop into the fifth round.

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10627043)

Rolling out to his right and throwing on the run across his body to the opposite end of the field. A la Aaron Rodgers.

Bray can do this.

Originally Posted by buddha (Post 10627076)

You would be 100% wrong. He didn't shrink in one year, nor did his arm get weaker. If the young man is good enough to be considered a 1st round pick two years ago and drops to the 5th this year, and he hasn't picked up a heroin habit along the way, the ONLY explanation that makes any sense is his ACL injury.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10627080)

He wasn't a 1st round pick two years ago. People speculated that he could have been a 1st round pick, like Tony Dungy, but if he really WAS a potential 1st round pick in scouts eyes, the ACL wouldn't have dropped him all the way to the 5th.

Originally Posted by Dick Bull (Post 10627064)

I've always hated the picking of someone's name out and then saying so and so could be the next him. Just seems silly.

I mean if you're at work as an accountant and been doing it well for 20 years and they hire a new kid fresh out of college, do they say he could be the next you?

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10626970)

It's also a complete logical fallacy to suggest that he can when really none of the evidence supports it.

Aaron Murray has a lot of things to like. He put up great numbers in the best conference. He has very good accuracy when he concentrates and sets himself.

But Aaron Murray also lacks several things that guys like Brees and Wilson have, namely ice in their veins and the ability to make something out of nothing.

Without the ACL, he wouldn't have been a 1st round pick. Dozens and dozens of scouting reports aren't wrong.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10627096)

Read my post again, particularly the part about the logical fallacy.

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 10627089)

But, but, but...the chiefs won't ever draft a QB. Ok, they drafted a QB (like they did with Croyle) that is a gamer coming off an injury. Maybe they got a gem. Not a hidden gem, because last year alot of football people were talking him up as one of the better prospects. Hopefully he works out and is a stud that comes in after a year of watching AS play out his contract.