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Reerun_KC 12-09-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10263349)
so offsetting penalties, right?

You cant be serious? offsetting penalties? Mannings trailing?

:LOL:

Setsuna 12-09-2013 12:19 PM

Denver is up on Pats 24-0 in the 2nd half with an awful Pats D and they don't score another point until the Pats have scores 28 unanswered. That's rigged if I've ever seen it.

FringeNC 12-09-2013 12:20 PM

When Vegas starts putting betting odds on WWE matches, I'll believe the NFL is rigged.

Tombstone RJ 12-09-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10263353)
You cant be serious? offsetting penalties? Mannings trailing?

:LOL:

there were two flags on the play, know what the other flag was for?

ptlyon 12-09-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10263349)
so offsetting penalties, right?

Do you even watch the ****ing games?

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-09-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 10263358)
Denver is up on Pats 24-0 in the 2nd half with an awful Pats D and they don't score another point until the Pats have scores 28 unanswered. That's rigged if I've ever seen it.

Well maybe if Denver didn't go into a shell in the 2nd half. All they did was run.

Mile High Mania 12-09-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10263309)
More proof that you don't understand the game, nor watch the game in any fashion...

:LOL: Really. The ball was overthrown and Pollard had time to pull up, I believe it was a personal foul for hitting a defenseless receiver. I could be wrong though, I don't recall what was said.

Tombstone RJ 12-09-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 10263365)
Do you even watch the ****ing games?

I didn't see that play but I noticed there were two flags on that play, I'm asking what the other flag was for.

Mile High Mania 12-09-2013 12:23 PM

There were 2 flags on the defense...

1st and 10 at DEN 43 (No Huddle, Shotgun) P.Manning pass incomplete deep left to E.Decker (B.Pollard). Penalty on TEN-A.Verner, Defensive Holding, declined. PENALTY on TEN-B.Pollard, Personal Foul, 15 yards, enforced at DEN 43 - No Play.

ClevelandBronco 12-09-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262980)
Pretty simple question: Do you think the NFL is "rigged?"

Specifically, do you believe the NFL has a preferred outcome for games

Yes.

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262980)
AND orders its officiating crews to make calls for/against teams for the purpose of achieving that preferred outcome?

No.

ptlyon 12-09-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10263370)
I didn't see that play but I noticed there were two flags on that play, I'm asking what the other flag was for.

Oh, sorry. Decker was supposedly "held", yet he was an astonishingly 10 yards ahead of that defender when he got clocked

Tombstone RJ 12-09-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 10263375)
There were 2 flags on the defense...

1st and 10 at DEN 43 (No Huddle, Shotgun) P.Manning pass incomplete deep left to E.Decker (B.Pollard). Penalty on TEN-A.Verner, Defensive Holding, declined. PENALTY on TEN-B.Pollard, Personal Foul, 15 yards, enforced at DEN 43 - No Play.

got it, thanks!

Mile High Mania 12-09-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 10263380)
Oh, sorry. Decker was supposedly "held", yet he was an astonishingly 10 yards ahead of that defender when he got clocked

I don't recall if he pushed on that play or not - both defenses got away with holding at various points.

Rain Man 12-09-2013 12:27 PM

I wish that gif was zoomed out slightly more to see the jam at the line of scrimmage. When I saw it, I thought, "Eh, whatever." It didn't seem like a call.

But the defender actually ended up on the ground and Decker was running free before Pollard came over to help. We can see in one angle of the gif that the defender is far upfield just getting to his feet when the Pollard hit happens.

When they said, "there are two fouls on the play", I assumed maybe there was a holding or illegal formation or something that I didn't see. When they called Verner for holding when he ended up on the ground, and then called Pollard for a personal foul when the ball bounced off Decker's hands and Pollard clearly made a shoulder to shoulder hit, I gave up.

And again, that's nothing against the Broncos division of the NFL Industrial Complex. It's just how the league works now. The drive was extended and ended with a touchdown pass by one of the league's biggest stars. The marketing team and several of their target market priorities cheered and said, "Great pass by Eli!"

ptlyon 12-09-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 10263384)
I don't recall if he pushed on that play or not - both defenses got away with holding at various points.

Let's see. If he was being held and then suddenly 10 yards past him, WTF do you think he did?


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