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Ebolapox 12-07-2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 5277723)
Has anyone posted the "getcha popcorn" smiley yet?

Because if not...



:popcorn:

feh. the popcorn has gone stale. the thread lost its burst fifteen posts ago.

TinyEvel 12-07-2008 09:01 PM

Wait, who the hell is Joe satriani?

I bet he's not as dreamy as Chris Martin.

DaneMcCloud 12-07-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mcan (Post 5277506)
See, this is more the discussion I was hoping for. I went a little overboard on the attack last night. Deleting soon.

No worries, Dude.

As I stated in my first response, proving plagiarism is extremely difficult. Extremely. Joe Satriani's people will have to somehow prove that Chris Martin and/or anyone in Coldplay actually heard Joe's song.

And as I stated earlier, Chris Martin may have heard this song in passing years ago, only to unintentionally use the same melody for their song.

It's a difficult case for sure.

Mr. Kotter 12-07-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John (Post 5277280)
Why is it that every thread Dane gets involved in, there's a 50% chance that it's going to devolve into a pissing match about just how cool he thinks he is?

Talk about the skillet callin' the kettle black..... ROFL

TinyEvel 12-07-2008 11:36 PM

I sat on one of my balls today. I wanted to sue that ball for obstruction of sitting. But I won't. It still is a part of me.

Silock 12-07-2008 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5277290)
Every thread?

This from Taco John?

ROFL

I'm not going to say EVERY thread, but come on, man. You're 43 years old. Isn't it time to mellow out a bit? I think you let other people get to you too much. Just let it go, safe and secure in the knowledge that you're right on this issue :)

TinyEvel 12-08-2008 12:47 PM

In my opinion, Satriani should also be suing THE HOME DEPPOT for ripping off the same song.

Listen at :06.

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patteeu 12-08-2008 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 5275570)
If they didn't have a case, why would they have settled? That doesn't make any sense. If they could have won, they would have.

There's risk involved in going to a judgment because you can never be sure that you'll win even if you think you've got a strong case. Settlements are a way of paying to eliminate that risk. Kind of like the "buy now" option on ebay.

OnTheWarpath15 12-08-2008 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 5278956)
In my opinion, Satriani should also be suing THE HOME DEPPOT for ripping off the same song.

Listen at :06.

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ROFL

Braincase 12-08-2008 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 5277768)
Wait, who the hell is Joe satriani?

I bet he's not as dreamy as Chris Martin.

Based on avatar, I believe TinyEvel has become DOMO-KUN!

TinyEvel 12-08-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 5279295)
Based on avatar, I believe TinyEvel has become DOMO-KUN!

Hmmm....

tk13 12-09-2008 01:46 AM

I've always wondered if you tried hard enough, how many cases like this you could probably find. It's hard to reinvent the wheel. That's how you get two people claiming the same band stole the same song.

That chorus bit definitely sounds similar. I personally enjoyed the new album though, I don't know if it was working with Brian Eno or what, I liked it way better than X&Y. But I like all kinds of music, I really could give a rip about what the rest of you idiots think. :)

Braincase 12-09-2008 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 5281008)
I've always wondered if you tried hard enough, how many cases like this you could probably find. It's hard to reinvent the wheel. That's how you get two people claiming the same band stole the same song.

That chorus bit definitely sounds similar. I personally enjoyed the new album though, I don't know if it was working with Brian Eno or what, I liked it way better than X&Y. But I like all kinds of music, I really could give a rip about what the rest of you idiots think. :)

I think you might be onto something here. Rumor has it that Eno and satch are from the same star cluster in the Gamma Quadrant.

DJ's left nut 12-10-2008 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5277843)
No worries, Dude.

As I stated in my first response, proving plagiarism is extremely difficult. Extremely. Joe Satriani's people will have to somehow prove that Chris Martin and/or anyone in Coldplay actually heard Joe's song.

And as I stated earlier, Chris Martin may have heard this song in passing years ago, only to unintentionally use the same melody for their song.

It's a difficult case for sure.

Knowledge can be inferred from facts/circumstances.

They don't technically have to prove he heard it. They can present the music to the jury and allow the jury to make the inference that the songs could never have been so similar but/for Martin having heard the song.

DaneMcCloud 12-11-2008 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5285208)
Knowledge can be inferred from facts/circumstances.

They don't technically have to prove he heard it. They can present the music to the jury and allow the jury to make the inference that the songs could never have been so similar but/for Martin having heard the song.

This is completely false.

Certain guidelines have been established to prevent the shutdown of the entire music business. Case law now exists to prevent this from happening.

The main element the plaintiff has to "prove" is Coldplay had access to and had heard Satriani's riff. If they can't prove that, the case is over.

Period.


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