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Next GM Short-List: Who's your pick and why? (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=265883)

The 2012 Chiefs lack talent. Only homers think we have talent.

You're gonna lose the Dex bet. :)

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9135554)

Fired after he built a team that went to its 4th straight superbowl. Id JIMP.

Of course he "went the veteran route" he was starting an expansion team. How the team did after he left was on somebody else, he had them in the NFCC game in his second year

Actually, it was after their third Super Bowl appearance.

Jacksonville went for youth, yet was in the AFC Championship Game quickly and repeatedly won playoff games. Carolina was a disaster and didn't get better until after John Fox and Marty Hurny took over eight years later. Carolina endured a 1-15 season post Polian as well.

I'm on the iPad so I can't link so you'll need to search for Polian's militant tactics.

Also, I wouldn't lay any bets that Chris has learned enough to become a successful GM in a short time period.

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9135560)

The 2012 Chiefs lack talent. Only homers think we have talent.

You're gonna lose the Dex bet. :)

I made no Dex bet and this team has plenty of talent.

Bowe
Charles
Hali
Houston
Flowers
Moeaki
Albert
Asamoah
Winston
Breaston
DJ
Berry

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9135560)

The 2012 Chiefs lack talent. Only homers think we have talent.

You're gonna lose the Dex bet. :)

Outside of QB, there are very few positions of immediate need. There are no dominate teams right now and if the Chiefs can acquire a QB and fill a few holes, they'll be right back in the thick of it come 2013.

But it's going to take the right moves in order for that to happen.

This team needs more than I thought before the season started. To be fair, we didn't realize how much of a drop off we would get with Carr gone. We also are seeing Berry not fully healthy(hopefully that is the reason). Most of all, I think this team quit pretty early on. Some of that shows character issues, some of that is the QB and head coach.

We need some work for sure but a good QB makes players better. I think this roster inspired plus a QB looks a lot different. If we lose either Albert or Bowe its certainly going to look even worse. Keep them both, get a QBOTF, a solid head coach, and then fix the Dline and CB2. Maybe we aren't SB bound after that but I think its a pretty decent team.

Last year with a motivated team and decent QB we looked alright to end the season.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9135554)

Interesting, I honestly didn't know about his secrecy stuff...can you elaborate?

http://blogs.indystar.com/philb/2012...-no-more-fear/

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2012/1/4...of-terror-ends

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I had a friend who landed a job with the Colts many years ago. The first time we ran into each other in a complex hallway, I congratulated him. All I received was a nod as he kept walking. I didn’t know what to think. After the work day, my friend phoned to apologize.

“You understand why I can’t stop and talk to you in the building,” he said.

I didn’t.

He was afraid Polian would see us exchanging pleasantries.

“He hates all of us, too,” the friend said.

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I was reminded recently about how a former Colts player was in a hallway, talking to a then-current player, when Polian walked up. The boss didn’t care for the former player, and refused to acknowledge the man’s presence. A short time later, a nearby phone rang. The current player explained the former player had to leave.

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Like Phil, I had a similar experience with friends who landed jobs with the Colts. Some of these people were family friends, people I deeply care for. Once the word reached Polian that they were close to me, all communication with those people stopped.

At Super Bowl XLIV in Miami, I walked up to one such friend and to say hello. Bill Polian was just a few feet away. The friend nodded and shuffled away. I didn't know what was wrong until a month later, when people told me that if anyone within the team was seen speaking with me, they could lose their jobs.

Like Phil, I couldn't get out of my head the unbelievable culture of fear that the insecure, violently paranoid Polians used to keep control of the organization. And I won't lie. I'm glad Polian and his equally odious son were fired.

Not reassigned.

Not 'allowed to resign.'

Fired.

It was a fitting end to two people who simply lacked the ability to treat others decently and respectfully, especially if those others worked under them.

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit how employees are treated with franchises?

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9135541)

I could not disagree more.

Talent trumps scheme every single time.

Look no further than the 90's Chiefs as proof.

I say that bc our team is really already in place for most the part. we need a hc who can fire this team up and get the players to play their hearts out. a guy the team listens to and who knows how to scheme and put gameplans together. we just need a gm who is good with contracts and sees our team from an outside perspective and what would help and whats hurting. were past the stage where we need a draft guru to draft key anchors. just how I feel anyway

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9135592)

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit how employees are treated with franchises?

You may not be the only one, but you are in the minority.

"I treat everyone like a gentleman, not because they are one...but because I am."

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9135592)

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit how employees are treated with franchises?

I used to not care, and think that as long as the team won, that was the bottom line.

Now, especially with the prevalence of social media and it being the digital age, it becomes fairly obvious who the classy organizations are and who the crappy organizations are. I'd rather my franchise be a place where the cream of the crop are clamoring to work for rather than being a cesspool where you can only get people desperate to land a job. This has trickled into free agency too. Our top TE target never visited. Manning never visited. Orton couldn't wait to get out of here. Carr never entertained staying. Bowe wants out, even though he denies it now. Flowers allegedly wants out. Haley revolted and wanted out. No worthwhile assistant coach even sniffed in our direction. Zorn wanted out of his contract. Fisher didn't really consider coaching here. Romeo and Philbin were the only legit coaching candidates we had. Hell, it took us three days to convince our top FA acquisition, Winston, to sign here. Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of that delay was due to hesitation based on what he had heard.

No, I'd prefer that the Chiefs organization be a place where people are happy and excited to work at, because that attitude permeates and reflects in the end product. Most of that comes hand in hand with winning, but you learn a lot about people when the going is rough...