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tooge 03-03-2013 12:20 PM

I'm a golfer BTW. I carry a 14 handicap. I doubt I'll ever be a single digit guy, despite practicing my ass off at the range. I'm more disappointed if I blow up and shoot a 98 that I "wasted" my day than I am if the chiefs lose.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-03-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9460182)
I guess I don't see why it matters whether you're in control or not for the basis of this discussion. If control were the central issue in investment, then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Because he specifically said that leaving the stadium after 1-7 is like leaving the course for the winter after working on your game and never breaking 90.

If you base the happiness of your outcome on your score in golf, who is it that controls that score?

If you base your satisfaction on the outcome of a sporting event that you aren't participating in, who is it that controls that outcome?

If you work on your craft, you don't hope it gets better. You work to improve it. And your ability and effort determines your success.

007 03-03-2013 12:22 PM

The disagreements on this site are so damned entertaining. LMAO

tooge 03-03-2013 12:25 PM

Hammas, I'd suggest you don't buy season tickets since it seems to not be worth the risk for YOU. I enjoy it there, moreso when they win, but I enjoy the day regardless. Twenty years ago I would have had a different take than I do now

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-03-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9460204)
Hammas, I'd suggest you don't buy season tickets since it seems to not be worth the risk for YOU. I enjoy it there, moreso when they win, but I enjoy the day regardless. Twenty years ago I would have had a different take than I do now

That's why I gave them up after 2009.

Again, you seem to think that I'm telling you what you should or should not enjoy. I'm not. What I'm saying is that you are a captive and dependent audience when you watch football. You have no material effect on the outcome of the game.

In golf, everything you do has a material effect on the outcome of your score.

You can enjoy yourself in both regardless of outcome, but if you base part of your enjoyment on the outcome you have to realize the real and crucial dichotomy between the two. In only one do you have control, and in that case you have absolute control. In the other you are completely subject to the actions and decisions of someone else and living vicariously through them.

That's where the disconnect occurs

007 03-03-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9460204)
Hammas, I'd suggest you don't buy season tickets since it seems to not be worth the risk for YOU. I enjoy it there, moreso when they win, but I enjoy the day regardless. Twenty years ago I would have had a different take than I do now

I still have fun when I go as well, but the group of friends tailgating seems to get a little smaller each year. The diehards are always there though. What I love about the diehards I hang out with, they are still objective about the state of the team.

R8RFAN 03-03-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9460192)
I'm a golfer BTW. I carry a 14 handicap. I doubt I'll ever be a single digit guy, despite practicing my ass off at the range. I'm more disappointed if I blow up and shoot a 98 that I "wasted" my day than I am if the chiefs lose.


I bet you are a pretty good ol boy in person

HotCarl 03-03-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9460213)
I still have fun when I go as well, but the group of friends tailgating seems to get a little smaller each year. The diehards are always there though. What I love about the diehards I hang out with, they are still objective about the state of the team.

There are different categories.

Some people support the team only so long as they win.

Some people support the team only so long as they agree with the personnel moves that are made.

Some people support the team only so long as they find the experience at the game enjoyable.

Some people support the team as the result of a passion for that team that transcends the ups and downs of the standings across decades.

R8RFAN 03-03-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9460239)
There are different categories.

Some people support the team only so long as they win.

Some people support the team only so long as they agree with the personnel moves that are made.

Some people support the team only so long as they find the experience at the game enjoyable.

Some people support the team as the result of a passion for that team that transcends the ups and downs of the standings across decades.

#4 for me

Papi 03-03-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9459589)
No, because I'm not a pussy who thinks I know more about football than men who have worked in the business their entire lives. Shake the sand out of your vagina.

Haha seriously??? You would have been Hitler's ideal citizen. Way to not question anyone.
The majority of the fan base knew more about football than lots of men that have worked in the business their entire lives. Crennel, *****, Herm, etc.

R8RFAN 03-03-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Papi (Post 9460261)
Haha seriously??? You would have been Hitler's ideal citizen. Way to not question anyone.
The majority of the fan base knew more about football than lots of men that have worked in the business their entire lives. Crennel, *****, Herm, etc.

Hitler reference in a football thread? Seriously?

I am not much of a neg repper man but you deserve it.

Fish 03-03-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9459667)
Think about what we've gone through as fans, and what these past 5 years have gotten us.

The 1st, 3rd, 5th (X2) and 11th overall picks, and two extremely high R2 picks have netted us Matt Cassel, Alex Smith, Glenn Dorsey, Tyson Jackson, Dontari Poe, Eric Berry and very, very likely, a LT we don't need.

That's a sickening waste of draft currency.

$63M contract for Cassel.
Picking up $16M of Alex Smiths contract from San Fran.

Almost $80M dollars thrown at the likes of Cassel and Smith alone. Plus two 2nd round picks, and a conditional 2nd or 3rd.

And drafting QBs is still too risky....

DaneMcCloud 03-03-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9460204)
Hammas, I'd suggest you don't buy season tickets since it seems to not be worth the risk for YOU. I enjoy it there, moreso when they win, but I enjoy the day regardless. Twenty years ago I would have had a different take than I do now

I agree completely.

I shared a portion of season tickets to the Dodgers from 2005-2007. I went to probably 20+ games per season, which is a shit ton (trying to find people last minute, etc. and so on). I don't remember the scores of the games or who won or lost, but I do recall bonding with friends, having beers and dogs and just having a great time.

The older we get and the more responsibilities we have, days and nights like that become more important than wins or losses. Sometimes, it's just nice to get away from the wife and kids for a few hours and hang with the boys. MLB, NHL, NBA and the NFL provide that much needed service.

Now with that said, the Chiefs organization should do everything in their power to put a consistent, winning football team on the field, year in and year out. But their moves, right or wrong, are out of my control.

OnTheWarpath15 03-03-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9460268)
$63M contract for Cassel.
Picking up $16M of Alex Smiths contract from San Fran.

Almost $80M dollars thrown at the likes of Cassel and Smith alone. Plus two 2nd round picks, and a conditional 2nd or 3rd.

And drafting QBs is still too risky....

$57M to Tyson Jackson.

$51M to Glenn Dorsey.


$171M to three players we got nothing out of, and the loss of a 3rd overall, 5th overall and early R2 pick.

We'll be pushing $200M in a few years when we add Alex Smith to the list.

Papi 03-03-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9460265)
Hitler reference in a football thread? Seriously?

I am not much of a neg repper man but you deserve it.

Sorry I didn't mean to offend your Fuhrer.


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