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OnTheWarpath15 01-28-2017 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12714471)
What game is that?
2010, Week 3. Charlie Batch vs. Tampa.

Hammock Parties 01-28-2017 05:12 PM
Charlie Batch. LMAO

"Perfection."

LMAO

New World Order 01-28-2017 05:13 PM
Haha

OnTheWarpath15 01-28-2017 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12714474)
Charlie Batch. LMAO

"Perfection."

LMAO
It's basically the QBR version of that game of Matt Cassel's where he went something like 14/18 for 90 yards and lost the game by 20+ points, but earned a 125 rating on the traditional rating scale.

Both metrics are severely flawed.

Easy 6 01-28-2017 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12714480)
It's basically the QBR version of that game of Matt Cassel's where he went something like 14/18 for 90 yards and lost the game by 20+ points, but earned a 125 rating on the traditional rating scale.

Both metrics are severely flawed.
Gotta hand it to Matt though, he graded out perfectly there

OnTheWarpath15 01-28-2017 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12714481)
Gotta hand it to Matt though, he graded out perfectly there
LMAO

jaa1025 01-28-2017 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12714325)
Here's the bottom line for me, until we find a QB who is GUARANTEED to beat Brady reliably by himself, the rest is just grousing about fate.

No use wailing and gnashing teeth over Alex. He's not so expensive that the team suffers and we won't cost you games.

All this agita about elite? franchise? mediocre? serviceable? awful? is a waste of time.

Either you can smoke Brady, or you cannot smoke Brady. And good luck with all that.

I'm not some blind apologist, just a realist about 1) how interconnected team success is [regardless of how some think everything hinges on the QB] and 2) how rare the elite QB is.

Now, if you want to have a conversation about scout and trainers. We can talk.
Uhhh...he lost 2 games this year with untimely interceptions.

stumppy 01-28-2017 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12714481)
Gotta hand it to Matt though, he graded out perfectly there
ROFLROFL
I'm crying right now......ROFL.....crying I tell ya.

splatbass 01-28-2017 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12714325)
Here's the bottom line for me, until we find a QB who is GUARANTEED to beat Brady reliably by himself, the rest is just grousing about fate.
There is no QB that fits that description. Brady is the GOAT, you are saying that only a QB greater than the GOAT is acceptable. :eek:

Baby Lee 01-29-2017 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12715115)
There is no QB that fits that description. Brady is the GOAT, you are saying that only a QB greater than the GOAT is acceptable. :eek:
Just applying CP rules as they've been passionately and doggedly laid out. The only football that counts is SB wins, the only football player that matters is QB, and Brady is still in the league, in the AFC no less.

Do the math, or STFU about the roster.

kcchiefsus 01-29-2017 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12715332)
Just applying CP rules as they've been passionately and doggedly laid out. The only football that counts is SB wins, the only football player that matters is QB, and Brady is still in the league, in the AFC no less.

Do the math, or STFU about the roster.
If we were able to find a QB this year or next, by the time he is hitting his stride and over his rookie mistakes it will be probably 2019 or 2020 and Brady will most likely be done finally. It's plausible to find a QB now that won't ever have to up against a top notch Brady.

TripleThreat 01-29-2017 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 12715335)
If we were able to find a QB this year or next, by the time he is hitting his stride and over his rookie mistakes it will be probably 2019 or 2020 and Brady will most likely be done finally. It's plausible to find a QB now that won't ever have to up against a top notch Brady.
Now would be perfect time to start the grooming, if not by next years draft...

Rasputin 01-29-2017 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 12715339)
Now would be perfect time to start the grooming, if not by next years draft...
The big thing Chiefs need to be concerned about is the higher risk of Alex Smith being concussed again and missing more games.


I'd want a rookie to step in and pop his cherry no good would it do us to have a vet backup that would prevent progression and learning for a young quarterback.


Got to give opportunity and if they are worth a high round draft pick then they should be able to step in. I do expect growing pains but I'd rather have growing pains with hope than no hope at all.

Sandy Vagina 01-29-2017 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 12715339)
Now would be perfect time to start the grooming...
Correct.. and I doubt there is ONE single person that disagrees with this.

NJChiefsFan 01-29-2017 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12715332)
Just applying CP rules as they've been passionately and doggedly laid out. The only football that counts is SB wins, the only football player that matters is QB, and Brady is still in the league, in the AFC no less.

Do the math, or STFU about the roster.
The irrational and ever changing rules get applied by the extreme homers and extreme haters alike.

NJChiefsFan 01-29-2017 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12715472)
Correct.. and I doubt there is ONE single person that disagrees with this.
I've actually had a few people here say this season that Alex is young enough to not need this. Extreme minority though.

BossChief 01-29-2017 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12711935)
You haven't been paying attention.

http://i.imgur.com/oc6JhHd.gif
Inexcusable

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-29-2017 11:03 PM
There's a safety shadowing Tyreek and has his eyes on Smith how is that even considered to be open? The ball would be in the air for at least 2.5 seconds, plenty of time for that safety to snag a pick. Stupid asses.

Hammock Parties 01-29-2017 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12717036)
There's a safety shadowing Tyreek and has his eyes on Smith how is that even considered to be open? The ball would be in the air for at least 2.5 seconds, plenty of time for that safety to snag a pick. Stupid asses.
It's called leading the receiver.

RunKC 01-29-2017 11:16 PM
Holy shit Reek, Kelce and the receiver at the bottom were all open at different times during that play and Alex missed all of them.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-29-2017 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12717038)
It's called leading the receiver.
It's called learn more about football

Chief Northman 01-30-2017 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12717077)
It's called learn more about football
Wrong.

After checking the seam to Hill, his progression should have went to Kelce on the curl seeing the zone coverage. When he flushes right, scramble rules apply so then he should have seen West (I think) turn his flat route to a wheel. Rolling/scrambling right and West has 2+ yards on his man. THROW IT.

= Alex fail. No denying it.

KChiefs1 02-01-2017 02:43 PM
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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-01-2017 09:07 PM
Herpes wears #11 by the way.

kcxiv 02-02-2017 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12717038)
It's called leading the receiver.
yep, alex leads Tyreek correctly, there is 0 chance the safety gets there. NO way in hell he keeps up with tyreek. Impossible.

mcaj22 02-02-2017 07:09 AM
it's literally a simple math equation to lead the receiver like that. Like algebra 101. How stupid can you be Tigger.

QB just throws it at the spot (probably somewhere in the endzone) to lead the WR, based on the WR's trajectory and speed he is traveling and factoring in the time the ball is in the air, there is literally NO way any defender behind him is making up that distance. HE HAS EVERYONE BEAT. It is literally textbook football.

Only way it fails if the pass is under thrown or the WR has to stop to catch it. Which are both possible with Alex Smith at QB. Which is why he probably was afraid to make that throw in the first place lol.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 02-02-2017 08:28 AM
Basic Geometry would tell you the safety would close in on the only receiver in the vicinity , especially as he is watching the QB

Pasta Little Brioni 02-02-2017 08:43 AM
1 Sauto + 1 Tim bone = 0 Tiger Uppercut

Chiefnj2 02-02-2017 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12722260)
Basic Geometry would tell you the safety would close in on the only receiver in the vicinity , especially as he is watching the QB
Basic geometry and vision would tell you the safety is 5+ yards to the left of Hill and he's not at a full speed run in any direction. If Alex leads Hill to the right, Hill makes an easy grab. If Alex sees Kelce, it's an easy short pickup. If Alex doesn't panic he has the RB breaking open downfield.

Apparently Alex and Tigger had the same geometry teacher.

kccrow 02-02-2017 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12722260)
Basic Geometry would tell you the safety would close in on the only receiver in the vicinity , especially as he is watching the QB
Geometry? Jesus H. This isn't even Kinematics. It's more like Dynamics (or Kinetics for old farts). There's alot more that goes into that guy making a play on the ball than geometrical position. :shake:

WhiteWhale 02-02-2017 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12722260)
Basic Geometry would tell you the safety would close in on the only receiver in the vicinity , especially as he is watching the QB
Everyone on this forum knows you are wrong.

Keep going if you want, but you sound ridiculous.

New World Order 02-02-2017 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12722260)
Basic Geometry would tell you the safety would close in on the only receiver in the vicinity , especially as he is watching the QB
A safety is going to close in on Tyreek Hill?

Haha

kccrow 02-02-2017 12:27 PM
Value of Alex Smith 2016:

http://imageshack.com/a/img922/6650/bz1z7G.png
*Top 32 TD passers in 2016*

Facts. Not Fiction.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-02-2017 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12722332)
Basic geometry and vision would tell you the safety is 5+ yards to the left of Hill and he's not at a full speed run in any direction. If Alex leads Hill to the right, Hill makes an easy grab. If Alex sees Kelce, it's an easy short pickup. If Alex doesn't panic he has the RB breaking open downfield.

Apparently Alex and Tigger had the same geometry teacher.
ROFL

Quote:
Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12722607)
Value of Alex Smith 2016:


*Top 32 TD passers in 2016*

Facts. Not Fiction.
There are things that are sad and pitiful.

And then, there is that.

:facepalm:

TigeRRUppeRRcut 02-02-2017 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12722607)
Value of Alex Smith 2016:

http://imageshack.com/a/img922/6650/bz1z7G.png
*Top 32 TD passers in 2016*

Facts. Not Fiction.

Cool. Over the last six years Smith has the most wins of any player in that top 17 or so.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-02-2017 05:49 PM
Romo is our hope

NJChiefsFan 02-02-2017 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12723194)
Cool. Over the last six years Smith has the most wins of any player in that top 17 or so.
Playoff wins? Or does a qb only get credit for regular season and then the playoffs falls on the teams shoulders?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 02-02-2017 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 12723216)
Playoff wins? Or does a qb only get credit for regular season and then the playoffs falls on the teams shoulders?
How many players in that group over last six years have made it to a divisional round or a division championship game more than Smith? You want to discredit the Houston win and then also ignore the two byes he helped his team get...so you find a stat that fits your narrative. Your takes are dog ****.

Mother****erJones 02-02-2017 06:09 PM
Smith is a ****ing fraud. He's done. KC needs to move on sooner than later. Better ****ing draft his replacement this season. Shit. I'd rather roll the dice with Romo than keep this ****ing midget armed hack here another season. You know his ceiling. Stop defending the worthless QB.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-02-2017 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12723194)
Cool. Over the last six years Smith has the most wins of any player in that top 17 or so.
It was so very nice of Smith's team mates to invite him along for those wins.

What a classy group!

NJChiefsFan 02-02-2017 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12723240)
How many players in that group over last six years have made it to a divisional round or a division championship game more than Smith? You want to discredit the Houston win and then also ignore the two byes he helped his team get...so you find a stat that fits your narrative. Your takes are dog ****.
I'm not stating any opinion here on what stats I value. Everything you just said was putting words in my mouth to fit your narrative. Just pointing out that you pick and choose when win-loss record matters. It is funny listening to you tell someone else that they pick and choose.

Frazod 02-02-2017 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12723286)
It was so very nice of Smith's team mates to invite him along for those wins.

What a classy group!
How unfortunate that they all seem to like taking January off.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-02-2017 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 12723389)
How unfortunate that they all seem to like taking January off.
Truth. :(


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