Everyone but Forte, he is a risk going into the weekend. The other three are starters.

Kinda what I had lined up just wanted to see the reaction. My only real concern is Ridley against MIA. God I hate having a NE RB.

Here's another one

Must start 3 or I can replace one of the RBs I have as the Flex (But doubt it's worth it).

Wes Welker @ MIA
Percy Harvin @ GB (Q/ ankle)
Brandon LaFell @ KC :evil:
Antonio Brown @BAL

I am leaning towards benching Brown, honestly. LaFell has been getting a ton of targets the past two weeks with a tempting match-up against KC.

Here's the really tough one:

Jason Witten vs PHI
Greg Olsen @ KC

We get torched by TEs and Olsen is quite the security blanket for Newton, but Witten is Witten and he's going against that awful PHI defense. I'm leaning towards Witten, but I fear I will see Olsen rip us apart and regret it.

At 11-1 I'm heading into a meaningless game before a bye week into the playoffs, so this is more of a curiosity play for me.

Charles vs Panthers
CJ2K vs Texans

Shower your wisdom.

Charles

The only reason it was even a debate is Roleo's fondness for slashing his touches for no reason whatsoever at random moments. A quick look at the last few weeks indicates this to be an out-of-vogue notion.

I've got a couple I'd be interested in seeing some takes on.

When in doubt I usually start the home team defense but with the way the Pats have been putting up points their D has been very opportunistic however Manning should be able to shred the Bucs porous secondary.Also I'd like to note that the last 3 weeks I've gone the wrong way and cost myself 2 shots at high Def score for the season and a $50 bonus.

Pats D vs. Miami
Broncos D vs. TB


Secondly my flex choice for the week is either Sproles,or Cobb,I'm leaning towards Cobb as his consistency up until this last week has been great but seeing that Sproles didn't play in the first match-up with Atlanta and N'awlins is in must win mode,what say you.

Two choices this week for the bye next week

TD only league Cruz or Shorts

Which DEF, all turnovers and sacks 1 point, 6 points for TD, no penalty for points allowed

Packers or Giants

Who to start?

Stafford vs Indy or Kaepernick @ STL

Denarious Moore vs CLE or DeMarco Murry vs Eagles (if healthy)

Im leaning Stafford and Murray if he is healthy

I wouldn't start DeMarco yet...

Stafford and Kaepernick is a toss up...with Kaepernick and his rushing yards, he's almost a must start...I'm starting him over Romo (in a juicy matchup).

Does this look right?

If Forte is out I might switch Hawkins w/ Bush.

http://i.imgur.com/FEmbm.png

Assuming DMC plays. Who will suck less: DMC v. Cleveland or DeAngelo Williams v. KC?

DMC

The Cowboys as usual are always overrated every year and par for the course they are struggling. The more they struggle the more Witten is Romo's binky as you say. Never sit Witten, hell if you have a flex spot that you can start a W/TE start Olsen in that context if you can. I would have no problem starting 2 TEs.

Even if Murray suits up he won't get a lot of carries. No way he gets 15-20 carries. Maybe 5-8 carries and 10 at the most.

Complete desperation at the QB position. Need a win and a lot of help to make playoffs.

Start Carson Palmer against Cleveland, or Ryan Fitzpatrick against Jacksonville?

Fitzpatrick and the Bills are gamers. They don't seem to be able to win to save their lives, but they always show up and put on a show. Fitzpatrick isn't a long-term answer there, but he's got weapons and a good scheme going against a bad Jacksonville defence.

The Browns play everyone tough, and they don't give up a ton of points either. Joe Haden locks guys down, and who knows how that backfield will perform.

I'd say chuck a prayer up with Fitzpatrick.

With DMC unlikely to play pick a FLEX - Alexander v. Cincy, DHB v. Cleveland, Myers v. Cleveland or DeAngelo Williams v. KC.

Leaning towards Alexander.

so in a league I'm in we have an auction waiver wire and I only have $10 left out of $100 that was started. I can't believe that I got Bryce Brown for $0. LOL the combination of Adrian Peterson and Brown netted me 57 points. I have ended up with a pretty gangster lineup through waiver wire pickups. I dumped Britt weeks ago to get Shorts and that has been nothing but double digit production, too. Picked up TY Hilton and he is producing just like Shorts. Crabtree is getting it done as well. Basically all my WR's this week had over 100 yards receiving with or without a TD. ****ing going to bench Decker. I watched that game and Manning never looked in Deckers direction. I couldn't believe it. Never progressed his reads was usually throwing on his first look which was Thomas or Tamme.

Here's my box score. Look, Steve Smith has only scored 1 TD all season. The last 3 weeks he didn't get over 60 yards so I benched him. He was against weak defenses against the pass, too and wasn't getting it done. Then he goes off on the Chiefs. FML

I think I'm going to gamble here. If I win this week I'm going to try and grab Russell Wilson of the waiver wire today and bench Aaron Rodgers next week when he plays against the Bears. Last visit he put out 12 points. Wilson will be in Buffalo next week and the matchup is much more favorable than Rodgers.

Okay, this is really, really important. It's the playoffs. I need to start three of the following five receivers. Which three? They're presented in random order to avoid bias.

Moore, Denarius.
Moore, Lance.
Jennings, Greg.
Johnson, Stevie.
Bowe, Dwayne.

I'm not touching that one with a 50 foot pole, Rain Man. I will say no to Bowe...and honestly, how about the waiver wire? Chris Givens? Josh Gordon? I honestly like those two guys better than D. Moore and Stevie Johnson (is he hurt?) I'd say yes to Lance Moore, no to Bowe, and then maybe scour the wire for the aforementioned guys (I really like both this week)

Givens is indeed available, as is Kendall Wright.

I've been juggling receivers all season. I started out 8-0 because the rest of my team was really strong, but I lost 3 of my 4 running backs and my QB and defense cooled down, so I lost 4 of the last 5. I really need my WRs to come through for me this game.

My initial thinking was Jennings, L. Moore, and Bowe. D. Moore has really underachieved the last couple of weeks, and Johnson has been fine, but his two catches last week scared me.

Givens does indeed look intriguing.

Please lost more waiver wire guys too please.

I feel like Bowe is a solid play with Cassel at QB...because he forced him the ball. Quinn seems to check down a lot or find Baldwin. It's quite odd, really. I wouldn't play Bowe, though. This game, IMO, is going to be like a 13-6 affair. I think both teams are gonna pound the ball to shorten the game and there won't be a lot of passing on either side. Bowe was my one big no and I've never been a Denarious Moore fan. If Stevie Johnson plays I think I'd go with Lance, Stevie + waiver wire guy like Givens.

First week of the playoffs.....

I'm highest scoring team in the league but I'm trying to figure out if I go with my normal starting lineup or deviate and start other players. My current selections are bolded.

QB: Choose 1

Matt Ryan @ Panthers
Colin Kaepernick vs Dolphins

RB: Choose 2

Doug Martin vs. Eagles
Jamaal Charles @ Browns
Stevan Ridley vs. Texans

WR: Choose 3

Julio Jones @ Panthers
A.J. Green vs. Cowboys
Victor Cruz vs. Saints
Pierre Garcon vs. Ravens

TE: Pick 1

Greg Olsen vs. Falcons
Jared Cook @ Colts

DEF: Pick 1

Browns vs. Chiefs
Jets @ Jags

Damn your team is stacked.

Only thing I would possibly change is to replace Charles with Ridley. No one has been running on the Browns since Taylor and Rubin came back. And their defense overall has been great the past 3-4 weeks since getting healthy. I also think the Chiefs fall behind early and that limits Charles' work.

Could go either way with those two though so go with your gut.

With Nelson out this week, I think Jennings is an easy start.

Like other guys have said I'd try to avoid Bowe with Quinn starting if I could. He's also going against Haden. One of the few shutdown corners in the league.

D. Moore got benched last weekend so not sure if I'd start him and on a short week. And when you consider the Thursday night games have been a fantasy wasteland, I'd try to avoid him.

L. Moore is solid, I'd probably start him but meh doesn't excite me either.

Stevie...meh.

I'd start Jennings with confidence, L. Moore due to your options and Stevie or waiver wire pickup.

Who do I start at QB?
Ryan at Carolina or Eli vs New Orleans

It seems like every time I make a change with these guys I pick the wrong one.

I think I'm going to switch out Charles for Ridley. Ridley now has 5 games in a row with a TD.

Ryan seems more consistent. If the rest of your team is strong, start the consistent guy. If you need a lot of luck, start the guy with a higher ceiling (which could be either guy, I guess).

Um....okay. Thanks.

I didn't know about the Moore benching but yeah, that's big. Also, I'm second-to-last on the waiver wire, so Givens got taken before I could get him.

I'm leaning toward Jennings and Lance Moore for sure, and I'm still debating Bowe versus Johnson. Brady looked a little more toward Bowe last week, but Johnson is on an offense that actually scores occasionally.

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Flex spot.

DMC v. Denver
Brandon Myers v. Denver
Danario Alexander @ Pitt
Heath Miller v. San Diego.

Myers v. Denver. I think that is Denver's only hole in their defense is covering the TE. I think if Roethlisberger comes back then I'd start Miller because he's a TD threat. I dropped DMC. He burned me so **** him.

That one for me

Rest of lineup is pretty strong for a 12 teamer, it's just that QB spot where I keep messing up and starting the wrong one. It's the only thing that cost me the #1 seed. OK, I guess it's Ryan over Eli then (at least for now)

RB Ray Rice, Bal
RB Doug Martin, TB
RB/WR Ryan Mathews, SD
WR A.J. Green, Cin
WR Victor Cruz, NYG
TE Jason Witten, Dal
D/ST Browns
K Matt Bryant, Atl

Yeah. I'm thinking Myers over DMC.

Oakland will be playing from behind all game and who knows how effective DMC will be, especially with Reece in the lineup -- who has been pretty productive.

okay, I have an interesting choice here. This league I'm doing good at, 8-5 and making the playoffs.

it starts 2 of everything, even defenses, TE's and kickers.

So my QB's are Shaub, Luck and Russel Wilson.

Luck is the #8 QB in this league and he's been very solid so he starts.

Now, i'm torn between Shaub and Wilson.

Who should I start?

Matt Shaub @ NE

Russel Wilson vs Ari

Leaning towards Shaub because the NE game has potential to be a shootout but Wilson is hot right now and Arizona is shitty.

What to do?

Would go with Schaub this week

I just don't trust divisional games in the NFC west. They've been fantasy wasteland games. I'd go with Shaub this week and if you win start Wilson against Buffalo next week. The only doubt that this decision could be wrong is Wilson played awesome against that stout defense against the Bears. If he can do that against the Bears why not Arizona? Just the way the AZ defense is trending for the last month doesn't look good for Wilson.

Cam Newton or Andrew Luck?

6 points per passing td

Luck.

Luck all the way. Remember the Falcons D picked off Bree's 5 times. Luck going against a weak D as the Titans already gave up 300 yards to Luck their first visit together. All his receivers are healthy, too.

Who to start?

Matt Stafford at GB

Josh Freeman home vs Phil

Not looking great so far...

One catch? One goddamn catch?

Good thing this game really is irrelevant.

I've clinched the playoffs as a four seed.

I sat Graham for that piece of shit.

Yuck.

**** Carson Palmer. He's trash.

if I had Jimmy Graham I don't think I could ever bench him

you just never bench your studs

I've learned that the hard way time and time again

I'm benching larry fitzgerald this week so he'll go off for 150 and 3

Luckily, like CJizzles, this week doesnt matter for me, my spot is 99% locked up. But sitting the 4th scoring TE in the league for the 5th best (with a better matchup) isnt a crazy move, so it still pisses me off.

The only good thing to take away from last night's game is DMC looked good.

I feel more comfortable now with the trio of Foster, Dwyer and DMC.

And DMC plays the Swiss Chiefs defense next week.

So I have to win this week to stay in the 4th spot and get into the playoffs in my ten team league. looking for some input on wrs and rbs. with the standard 2 rb, 2 wr and a flex rb/wr spot who would you'll start between....

steven jackson
demarco murray
sproles
bryce brown
spiller
leshoure

calvin
steve smith
t.y hilton
malcom floyd
britt

I was thinking.. murray, bryce, calvin (obviously a no brainer), steve smith and spiller in the flex

Cam is the #1 qb over the past 5 weeks. I'd have a hard time sitting him.

Not a slight on Luck who is a great play this week, but I'd ride the hot hand.

I believe that pillow biter reaggrevated his ankle injury last night. That's why Reese was in at the end.

Started Myers over Vernon Davis and he did a great VD impression....

**** Palmer

I really don't like Thursday Night Football.

Me neither.

The fantasy production from those games is ****ing horrid.

If it ****s me out of my biggest $ league because Peyton Manning couldn't throw TD's in a BASICALLY all TD league I'm going to be ****ing majorly pissed.

I've literally, in an obscure if you score over 100 you basically win league, lost 4 out of the 5 games so far in the most bizarre fashion possible.

One week I was tied going into a game with Peyton Manning, Joel Dreesen and Eric Decker vs. Michael Turner and lost by 3.

One week I needed 8 more yards from Peyton Manning to get my yardage bonus and win by 4 but instead Decker drops the ball and they punt and kill the clock the next possession and lose by 1.

Then I benched New England's defense for the Bengals against the Chiefs, rattle off 116 points, lose by 10 to a guy with a miracle week and had 40 points on the bench from New England's defense (against the Colts).

and now, despite all of that (I have two of the top three scorers with Manning and RGIII in a 2 QB league) I make the playoffs if I win, don't lose by 34+, or have another guy lose (though he's playing the worse team)...

and I just know I'm going to get crushed and miss the playoffs now.

If they're legit studs, sure.

Fitty hardly qualifies this year.

agree but in my deep roster 12 team league this will be the first week all year I'm benching him

For whom?

I've always followed this rule, "Never fall in love with the big name, but rather fall in the love with the big play". If the big name and big play 'consistently'( that is key)match up then GREAT ! But to your point, if they don't (a la Fitz- and it sure isn't his fault) then you avoid the big name because there is not consistent big play.

tentatively Josh Gordon

here is the scoring for this league:

0 points for 74 yards or less receiving

5 points for 75 and 2 points for every 25 after the 7f

6 points for 1-9 yard TD
9 points for 10-39 yard TD
12 points for 40+ yard TD

I can't ****ing quit Fitz...Skelton is starting this week but I'm just going to stick with my guns and bench him.

So it's between Britt and Gordon.

I already started Decker, and I'm also starting Cobb.

my lineup is:

Peyton Manning
RGIII
Bryce Brown
Jamaal Charles
Chris Johnson
Eric Decker
Randall Cobb
Josh Gordon
Aaron Hernandez
Browns Defense
Ravens kicker

I have Fitzy and Britt on the bench and could start either over one of the running backs but won't do it.

I'm really happy how I managed my team this year...it's a super, super competitive league that has been going on for 15 years now...two 12 team divisions...winner of each "league" plays for the overall title in week 17 for a ton of money

a guy offered me CJ for Ben Tate around week 5 or so (he had Foster and CJ had been miserable) and then the RB carousel week I ended up with Brown when guys like Parmale and Hillman went before him (got lucky there) and landed Cobb after week 1

I've had the worst possible luck...it's incredible. 8-5 is the worst I could be right now, and I am. It just sucks that I even have a shot of missing the playoffs this week.

I realize nobody really cares about other people's fantasy teams but here is the look of our two 12 team league league page:

http://www10.myfantasyleague.com/2012/home/48194#0

It's a really cool league with very obscure scoring and super deep rosters.

basically, you need good QB's to win the league...everything else is gravy...I'd absolutely hate the league if it was my only league but since it's not it is actually my favorite...

super competitive, only 4 teams make the playoffs in a 12 man format...we got 2nd out of 24 a few years back...it really sucked because we built out entire team around Peyton...we had Peyton, Clark, Wayne and Harrison starting every week and that was the year they benched Peyton for week 17 and all of the skill players so we really had no shot in the championship but still received a healthy payout!

drew brees vs NYG or andrew luck vs TEN? its hard to bench brees, but i like luck's match up better.

Have a dilemma at WR3 today:

Greg Jennings vs DET
Pierre Garcon vs BAL
Stevie Johnson vs StL

Standard scoring, .5 PPR.

Try this one for an early week 15: QB .2 per 5 yards 6 per passing TD

Rodgers at Chicago
or
Freeman at New Orleans

over the last four weeks Rodgers has 19.7 @ Det, 12.8 @ NYG, 16.9 v Min, 14 v Det.....Freeman has 28.5 @ Car, 10.2 v Atl, 20.3 @ Den, 20.7 v Phi

Freeman.

I just don't understand why you'd draft Rodgers and bench him...regardless of how great Freeman's matchup is.

Of course in adult leagues with an OP Freeman and Rodgers both start every week...you know, because it is realistic.

Hootie, go **** yourself AND your 2QB leagues....I won't say "nobody", but very few people give two damns what your whining ass thinks.



I'm leaning that way as well Pest

THIS!

I get that 2QB leagues are fun and unique, but nobody here gives a damn.

someday everyone will see the light

until then you'll have playoff scenarios that involve benching Aaron ****ing Rodgers because traditional leagues devalue the most important position in FFL

Tell me a league set up like this doesn't take a lot more skill than a shitty, 1 QB, traditional non PPR league?

http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/clubhou...&seasonId=2012

Cool. Then don't quote my posts.

I'm just trying to enlighten people. If you don't feel like being enlightened, use the ignore function. It works quite easily :thumb:

You're like one of those late night infomercial jackoffs.

I can even respect your belief that a league with x, y , or z settings works better for your leagues for whatever reason, but your schtick on this point has gotten old.

only two starting QB's not rostered in that league this week?

Nick Foles and John Skelton. Like it should be...you know, because QB is the most important position in sports.

But 10 team, traditional leagues...LMAO

Every week you start who? 10 out of 32 NFL QB's? That's the most ****ing ridiculous thing, and unrealistic I might add, in fantasy football.

You want to know why FFL is considered luck? Because of 1 QB leagues. Luck isn't nearly the factor in 2 QB, deep roster leagues like I play. The league I linked has been going on for four years and I have four division titles, three #1 seeds, two points titles and 1 championship. This is a super competitive, super active, pay to play league as well.

But you guys keep playing devalued QB leagues where guys like Roethlisberger, Kaepernick, Freeman, Ryan, E. Manning, etc...DON'T EVEN START. Insane.

Right there with you. Never had beef or thought Hootie was annoying. He's a pretty smart guy when it comes to fantasy football.

But him preaching about 2QB leagues to us, which ultimately makes no difference to him is incredibly annoying.