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Mecca 12-15-2017 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13285159)
Obama. Free market. Sky is falling. Verizon and Comcast say it hurts them. Did I mention Obama?

Socialist, pay your fair share, Marxists, Hitler, Nazi, Paying for other peoples usage, entitled, millenial

There I think our 2 posts about covered it.

prhom 12-15-2017 11:13 AM

Here’s a good example that I cannot prove, but is interesting all the same. I have Directv and Century link for internet. Everything works fine streaming on demand content. I move to a new house in 2014 and have to switch to Comcast for internet. Directv on demand streaming no longer works because the connection keeps getting killed by Comcast. I call dtv asking for help, they say talk to your ISP, the dtv equipment is working fine. I talk to Comcast and they say your connection is fine talk to dtv. Their equipment isn’t working.

I am mysteriously unable to use on demand through dtv until early 2015 when it magically starts working again. Is it coincidence that this is around the same time the net neutrality laws came into place? Possibly. If it stops working again in the next few months then I will probably have my answer.

It’s not very hard to believe that, if legally allowed to do so, Comcast would prevent a competitor’s service from being used. I don’t want Comcast tv but my only other option for internet is 1.5Mbps DSL. Internet access should be viewed as a utility and regulated as such. It’s funny to me that net neutrality is billed as anti-free market. It feels the opposite to me and I am a pretty big fan of free markets.

TambaBerry 12-15-2017 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 13285170)
Here’s a good example that I cannot prove, but is interesting all the same. I have Directv and Century link for internet. Everything works fine streaming on demand content. I move to a new house in 2014 and have to switch to Comcast for internet. Directv on demand streaming no longer works because the connection keeps getting killed by Comcast. I call dtv asking for help, they say talk to your ISP, the dtv equipment is working fine. I talk to Comcast and they say your connection is fine talk to dtv. Their equipment isn’t working.

I am mysteriously unable to use on demand through dtv until early 2015 when it magically starts working again. Is it coincidence that this is around the same time the net neutrality laws came into place? Possibly. If it stops working again in the next few months then I will probably have my answer.

It’s not very hard to believe that, if legally allowed to do so, Comcast would prevent a competitor’s service from being used. I don’t want Comcast tv but my only other option for internet is 1.5Mbps DSL. Internet access should be viewed as a utility and regulated as such. It’s funny to me that net neutrality is billed as anti-free market. It feels the opposite to me and I am a pretty big fan of free markets.

I know for a fact that isps still throttle internet services to certain sites. You can run a quick command and watch the ip addresses bounce around to a bunch of different ones. When i had time warner youtube couldn't load a video without it buffering and stuttering the entire time even though i paid for 50mbps.

Mecca 12-15-2017 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 13285170)
Here’s a good example that I cannot prove, but is interesting all the same. I have Directv and Century link for internet. Everything works fine streaming on demand content. I move to a new house in 2014 and have to switch to Comcast for internet. Directv on demand streaming no longer works because the connection keeps getting killed by Comcast. I call dtv asking for help, they say talk to your ISP, the dtv equipment is working fine. I talk to Comcast and they say your connection is fine talk to dtv. Their equipment isn’t working.

I am mysteriously unable to use on demand through dtv until early 2015 when it magically starts working again. Is it coincidence that this is around the same time the net neutrality laws came into place? Possibly. If it stops working again in the next few months then I will probably have my answer.

It’s not very hard to believe that, if legally allowed to do so, Comcast would prevent a competitor’s service from being used. I don’t want Comcast tv but my only other option for internet is 1.5Mbps DSL. Internet access should be viewed as a utility and regulated as such. It’s funny to me that net neutrality is billed as anti-free market. It feels the opposite to me and I am a pretty big fan of free markets.

Bingo, I'm sure Ajit Pai has a job at Comcast already lined up.

jspchief 12-15-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 13285170)
Here’s a good example that I cannot prove, but is interesting all the same. I have Directv and Century link for internet. Everything works fine streaming on demand content. I move to a new house in 2014 and have to switch to Comcast for internet. Directv on demand streaming no longer works because the connection keeps getting killed by Comcast. I call dtv asking for help, they say talk to your ISP, the dtv equipment is working fine. I talk to Comcast and they say your connection is fine talk to dtv. Their equipment isn’t working.

I am mysteriously unable to use on demand through dtv until early 2015 when it magically starts working again. Is it coincidence that this is around the same time the net neutrality laws came into place? Possibly. If it stops working again in the next few months then I will probably have my answer.

It’s not very hard to believe that, if legally allowed to do so, Comcast would prevent a competitor’s service from being used. I don’t want Comcast tv but my only other option for internet is 1.5Mbps DSL. Internet access should be viewed as a utility and regulated as such. It’s funny to me that net neutrality is billed as anti-free market. It feels the opposite to me and I am a pretty big fan of free markets.

This seems like the most likely area the issue will come about. How many ISPs around the country are in bed with cable/satellite? Cable is hemorrhaging money to cord cutters using the internet for access to movies/tv. What better way to steer customers back to cable than by making netflix stumble through clogged internet access?

But ISPs say that don't plan on doing that, and when it comes to customer care and trustworthiness, who beats cable companies? No one.

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bigjosh 12-15-2017 11:32 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FACT CHECK: The FCC is not just reversing an Obama-era order. It is reversing policies that have been in place since the dial-up era. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NetNeutrality?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NetNeutrality</a></p>&mdash; ACLU (@ACLU) <a href="https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/941358941090516992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Nirvana58 12-15-2017 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 13283564)
Her post

Not only is this a step to censorship, this is a racist and classist move. Videos revealing brutality will not be seen. People from lower incomes will not be able to educate themselves.
I also wanted to stop myself from saying this, but given what just happened, this is not the time to have a filter: I am astonished at some of the comments I have read. Some people don’t even know what was happening today.
You are exactly what they want us to be.

Whether you agree with the decision for net neutrality are not. Please explain to me how this decision is racist?? :rolleyes:

People have to make everything about race now. Then you make a post saying how proud you are that your daughter went straight for the race card.

This is why we can't have any sort of real life discussions anymore. People don't like something just yell racist over and over again.

bigjosh 12-15-2017 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 13285203)
This seems like the most likely area the issue will come about. How many ISPs around the country are in bed with cable/satellite? Cable is hemorrhaging money to cord cutters using the internet for access to movies/tv. What better way to steer customers back to cable than by making netflix stumble through clogged internet access?

But ISPs say that don't plan on doing that, and when it comes to customer care and trustworthiness, who beats cable companies? No one.

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Yep, that is a huge part of it. They could also extort netflix for a shit ton of money to make a "fast lane" then all of a sudden Netflix will cost 25$ a month.

The repeal of net neutrality is nothing but FCC approval of ISPs to extort customers and content providers.

prhom 12-15-2017 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 13285203)
This seems like the most likely area the issue will come about. How many ISPs around the country are in bed with cable/satellite? Cable is hemorrhaging money to cord cutters using the internet for access to movies/tv. What better way to steer customers back to cable than by making netflix stumble through clogged internet access?

But ISPs say that don't plan on doing that, and when it comes to customer care and trustworthiness, who beats cable companies? No one.

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Exactly, I mean, Comcast shareholders would probably sue the board for breach of fiduciary duty if they didn’t. FCC just gave them the right to make more money by squeezing their competitors and by extension their customers. When most people only have one broadband ISP option as it is, it’s not like they can make the offending ISP pay by switching providers. Comcast has lots of room to make my experience pretty miserable, while still being a better option than 1.5 Mbps DSL.

prhom 12-15-2017 11:58 AM

I wonder when we will see Apple buy their first network company? It would make sense given their aspirations as a content provider. They have lots of cash and will need unfettered access for all the people using their devices and services. It fits apple’s modus operandi perfectly too. Vertical integration and complete control over all facets of the user experience.

tatorhog 12-15-2017 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prhom (Post 13285170)
Here’s a good example that I cannot prove, but is interesting all the same. I have Directv and Century link for internet. Everything works fine streaming on demand content. I move to a new house in 2014 and have to switch to Comcast for internet. Directv on demand streaming no longer works because the connection keeps getting killed by Comcast. I call dtv asking for help, they say talk to your ISP, the dtv equipment is working fine. I talk to Comcast and they say your connection is fine talk to dtv. Their equipment isn’t working.

I am mysteriously unable to use on demand through dtv until early 2015 when it magically starts working again. Is it coincidence that this is around the same time the net neutrality laws came into place? Possibly. If it stops working again in the next few months then I will probably have my answer.

It’s not very hard to believe that, if legally allowed to do so, Comcast would prevent a competitor’s service from being used. I don’t want Comcast tv but my only other option for internet is 1.5Mbps DSL. Internet access should be viewed as a utility and regulated as such. It’s funny to me that net neutrality is billed as anti-free market. It feels the opposite to me and I am a pretty big fan of free markets.

wireshark, its a freebie download.

Learn how to use it. Most likely you would have seen alot of dropped, resent, or rejected packets during your On Demand problem times.

I wouldn't be surprised at all that Comcast was bandwidth shaping and your dtv was getting hind tit for that time.

R8RFAN 12-15-2017 12:19 PM

This just in.... Trump Jr cussed his preschool teacher out when he was 3.... Somebody has a video

R8RFAN 12-15-2017 12:20 PM

Some people drive Expensive cars , Some people drive Pintos ... If you can't afford the expensive car, Don't buy it... Simple

Mecca 12-15-2017 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 13285292)
Some people drive Expensive cars , Some people drive Pintos ... If you can't afford the expensive car, Don't buy it... Simple

Isn't that already in place? I'm sure I already pay more than most. What you're talking about is raising the price and ****ing with content and shaping what people look at.

Kiimo 12-15-2017 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 13285292)
Some people drive Expensive cars , Some people drive Pintos ... If you can't afford the expensive car, Don't buy it... Simple

If you have a Pinto or if you have a luxury car they charge both the same to take the turnpike.


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